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Penis-haver

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Blue4YOU · 15/04/2021 20:56

AIBU to start referring to all men as penis-hackers (inspired by the absurd NHS policy re people who menstruate thread)?
Hi, here’s my penis-haver X who I’m married to, my penis-haver friend Y and I was assaulted by a penis-haver paediatrician?

OP posts:
Epididimonster · 16/04/2021 08:54

@R0wantrees clergyspaffer has a nice ring to it

NRCS · 16/04/2021 08:56

Wangdangler? Covers both bit?

Getsomehelp · 16/04/2021 08:57

"Penis/cock/dick owners" cant be accepted. In view of some of this category lopping them off.

R0wantrees · 16/04/2021 08:57

Even ejaculator, wanker and tosser are challenging as some non cervix havers might elect not to partake in such activities.

Persons with ejaculatory potential (PWEP) ?
Assigned wanker/tosser person at birth?

Tanith · 16/04/2021 08:58

“ Katypyee
The transphobia on this thread is sickening.

No transphobia here.....point out exactly which posts are transphobic.....”

Katy’s just here for the “transphobia” flounce and to collect screenshots. Don’t mind Katy.

R0wantrees · 16/04/2021 08:59

Epididimonster It does Grin
(I am now clearing up snorted coffee)

BadGherkin · 16/04/2021 08:59

[quote Kimchidreams]@I0NA Your son should be allowed to be his authentic locomotive self Grin. He shouldn’t have to be subjected to Trainsphobia. (I’ll get my coat)[/quote]
🚂
Just snorted into my tea - painful but worth it. 🤣

Billben · 16/04/2021 09:03

@fairynick

Trans men are men.
No, they really aren’t 😂
skirk64 · 16/04/2021 09:05

In a medical setting, if women are "birth-givers" or "vagina-havers" then yes, men could be called "penis-havers".

However... the point of this thread seems to be to cause division. I know no man who in real life would use those terms to describe women - bitch, slut, slag, cunt, and plenty more - but never "birth-giver".

All I want to say is that seeking to create divisions usually doesn't end positively. If we want to provoke men to backlash against the progress women are making, by all means keep putting them down. If we want men to call us names, by all means call them names. If we want them to not have any respect for us, by all means don't show them any respect. No doubt someone will copy and paste this paragraph and say "but men are already doing those things." Yes, some are, an most don't stand up against it. But the way to persuade men to take a stand is not to put them down. Stirring up division and hatred against men will only serve to stir greater hatred towards women.

It's bad now, let's not deliberately make things worse.

picklemewalnuts · 16/04/2021 09:09

Skirk in many ways I agree with you. However sometimes you need to draw parallels to highlight how absurd something is.
Things that are considered normal when said about women, become clearly sexist when applied to men.

Many people feel it's ok to ask women about her childcare provision if she applies for a job. It wouldn't occur to them to ask a bloke the same question, thus highlighting the sexism of the question.

JustcameoutGC · 16/04/2021 09:09

I think any man worth his salty sperm would read this thread, have a good laugh, learn a few things (onanism who knew), maybe ask some questions about what is happening to language to describe women, and move on. This is not a hot bed of man hating.

MeltsAway · 16/04/2021 09:10

'Only men have prostates'

@BrumBoo How utterly depraved of the NHS to exhibit such violent transphobia. It is literal violence and I am weeping with grief for the murders this language will cause. Not. Grin

NRCS · 16/04/2021 09:10

You realise that this thread contains men and women talking about names for men's genitals right? Trans is not involved, hard as that is to contemplate, I know.

Erkrie · 16/04/2021 09:11

I don't think it's a hotbed of man hatred. It does highlight the absurdity of it all. My dph was thinking up ideas himself to add to the thread last night.

NRCS · 16/04/2021 09:11

Which is a drinking game I was playing at university 25 years ago, I might add.

Mmn654123 · 16/04/2021 09:12

@Tanith

“ Everywhere we see ‘man’ we should use the contact us page to inform the writer of their trans exclusivity so they can correct it.”

Take care not to do the activists/fanatics work for them.
Better to point out the hypocrisy of allowing ‘men’ but not ‘women’ and campaign for what you actually want to happen.

I don’t mind ‘women and others with a cervix’ for cervical screening and ‘men and others with a prostate’ for prostate screening. It’s inclusive and doesn’t remove men and woman from the descriptor.

I do object to ‘cis’ anything or the terms cervix haver and prostate haver being used instead of woman and man.

Though why we can’t offer it to women and trans men or men and trans women is beyond me.

MeltsAway · 16/04/2021 09:12

But seriously, @BrumBoo thanks for the links.

I've read them, and it's very revealing: the pages about cervical cancer use the phrasing "women and people with a cervix". The pages about prostate cancer just refer throughout to 'men.'

Pyewackect · 16/04/2021 09:14

@Theimpossiblegirl

Tossers?
...would that make women, " cunts" !.
Mmn654123 · 16/04/2021 09:15

@skirk64

In a medical setting, if women are "birth-givers" or "vagina-havers" then yes, men could be called "penis-havers".

However... the point of this thread seems to be to cause division. I know no man who in real life would use those terms to describe women - bitch, slut, slag, cunt, and plenty more - but never "birth-giver".

All I want to say is that seeking to create divisions usually doesn't end positively. If we want to provoke men to backlash against the progress women are making, by all means keep putting them down. If we want men to call us names, by all means call them names. If we want them to not have any respect for us, by all means don't show them any respect. No doubt someone will copy and paste this paragraph and say "but men are already doing those things." Yes, some are, an most don't stand up against it. But the way to persuade men to take a stand is not to put them down. Stirring up division and hatred against men will only serve to stir greater hatred towards women.

It's bad now, let's not deliberately make things worse.

What are you on about?
LakieLady · 16/04/2021 09:18

Men have way better words for their bits that we do, quelle surprise

But we have the best word of all: cunt.

Nothing can trump that.

MonkeyNotOrgangrinder · 16/04/2021 09:20

skirk64 but we're still allowed to have a laugh and point out the absurdity of it all, right?

Congressdingo · 16/04/2021 09:20

This thread is full of women in possession of an opinion,which.is. not.allowed.

Well shit I was about to embroider butterflies on my checked flannel shirts, and add bling to my mens shorts but if I'm not allowed an opinion then fuck it. Why bother.
As for what to call those pesky men people, I think tools will cover it nicely.

Mmn654123 · 16/04/2021 09:23

@Congressdingo

This thread is full of women in possession of an opinion,which.is. not.allowed.

Well shit I was about to embroider butterflies on my checked flannel shirts, and add bling to my mens shorts but if I'm not allowed an opinion then fuck it. Why bother.
As for what to call those pesky men people, I think tools will cover it nicely.

“Tools”

Interesting. Nice. Different. Unusual.

Had a certain ring to it.

Worthy of consideration.

R0wantrees · 16/04/2021 09:25

Tossers?

...would that make women, " cunts" !.

Tosser is an agent noun, cunt is not.

NRCS · 16/04/2021 09:25

I do love the word Wang for a penis, it's got such a musical quality about it!