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Never invited back?

519 replies

Lockdownlumpy · 06/04/2021 23:17

We have some couple friends that we have known for around 10 years. Over the years we've all moved house a few times. During a discussion with my OH today we realised that although we have hosted the other couple many times for drinks/lunch/dinner/ parties in all our houses (obv not much the last year thanks to covid) we have only been to their house once, for a birthday party. Whenever they suggest a catch up they either want to meet out somewhere or they say they are happy to come to us. Their house is a similar size to ours, nicely decorated and they are tidy people so I doubt they aren't inviting because of the house.
We get on well and enjoy their company but starting to wonder if it's odd that the invitations are never reciprocated.
Anyone else have friends like this?

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gingerbiscuit19 · 07/04/2021 07:57

I'm this person. My friends have much nicer houses than me so I don't invite them back as I'm embarrassed mainly.

Darkbrownistheriver · 07/04/2021 07:58

We host quite a lot. We enjoy it and it saves the debate about who’s going to drive. It’s mostly very casual and at fairly short notice, and you take us as you find us. We have one couple of friends who come regularly. They live in a beautiful Georgian house and also entertain quite a lot and quite lavishly - they say we’re the only people who invite them back. They’re perfectly happy to sit around our kitchen table and eat whatever we’ve concocted.

Hosting is bloody expensive though. Even for a fairly simple meal I often end up spending cover £100 (probably for 8-10 people). Most people never bring as much wine as they drink either!

@Itsalonghaul
If you’re vegan then I’d expect vegan food if you were hosting me. Bloody rude of people to expect you to cook meat for them if you don’t eat it.

OverTheRubicon · 07/04/2021 07:59

@gingerbiscuit19

I'm this person. My friends have much nicer houses than me so I don't invite them back as I'm embarrassed mainly.
Are you not more embarrassed by not reciprocating hospitality?
dontdisturbmenow · 07/04/2021 08:04

Hate it too. Could about cope with the preparation, planning and cleaning up, but what puts me off is that time when I've had enough, I'm knackered, desperate for me time, but the guests are enjoying themselves after a few drinks and happy to continue. So you wait, throw a few gentle hint and even after you finally gear the 'I guess we should make a mive', you know it will be at least another 1/2h before they actually do. Argggg, hate it!

wingardium8 · 07/04/2021 08:06

I have friends like this. It’s noticeable but I assume they find hosting stressful. They do however have a long drive to us and show up with masses of seriously good wine, flowers, desserts... I actually think they end up doing more than us, so hosting isn’t necessarily a one-way street.
(I wouldn’t mind if they brought nothing, I’d still be pleased to see them, but it is very thoughtful and generous and everyone is happy)

LemonRoses · 07/04/2021 08:11

I understand that some may not like the idea of cooking a formal meal for eight people with all the planning, table laying, flower arranging, shopping cooking etc. I love it, but I like cooking and miss having a houseful to provide for.

I don’t understand not letting people in or finding putting the kettle on stressful or unpleasant. What do people do when someone drops a child off or comes to collect them? What about when a neighbour drops by or friends are passing? I can’t imagine not throwing the door open ( with or without having hoovered and polished) and popping some scones in to warm.

It was lovely this weekend to be able to have a few people in the garden for nothing more than a few mugs of coffee and some Easter biscuits. I wouldn’t even count that as ‘hosting’, it’s just chatting.

Similarly, it’s lovely when a neighbour arrives uninvited with some garden excess, comes in and puts the kettle on before calling me from wherever I am. Looking forward to when the gardens are delivering again just for those joyous distractions from work.

Thepilotlightsgoneout · 07/04/2021 08:11

Some of the reasons why people don’t like hosting given here are so weird to me when it’s your friends. Surely your friends don’t care if your house is small, or if your food isn’t very good, or there’s lego on the floor? Mine wouldn’t care and if my food was crap, we’d just laugh about it.

Different if it’s someone formal like your boss, or the local vicar or something, but that’s not what we’re talking about.

Lanique · 07/04/2021 08:12

We are friends with at least two couples who seem to much prefer doing the entertaining; they come across as a bit awkward and uncomfortable in others' houses. To avoid their discomfort, I tend to let them take control, as that seems to be the way they like it.

shouldistop · 07/04/2021 08:13

Some people just don't like hosting. If they're good friends and appreciative guests then I wouldn't let this ruin a friendship.

5zeds · 07/04/2021 08:15

@dontdisturbmenow so you let your friends have all the waiting for people who want to stay longer and cost and inconvenience so you can just enjoy yourself?Shock

Itsalonghaul · 07/04/2021 08:18

f you are brass necked enough to accept repeated hospitality and not reciprocate you sure ain’t shy

I am sensing a raw nerve ts Grin A very, very raw nerve. Not without good reason I suspect, because you are right! If you can manage a dinner elsewhere with your anxiety in check, then you can manage it at home, you just choose not to!

huggzy · 07/04/2021 08:19

I don't enjoy hosting. I hate having to be get the house straight beforehand, I hate having to be on the ball offering drinks etc, I hate having to tidy up afterwards. Just not for me! I think it's partly because I like my privacy and partly because I don't feel 'proud' of our house. It's unfinished inside and out, although we are slowly getting there!

SnoopyOnALude · 07/04/2021 08:21

I absolutely love hosting and much prefer friends coming to ours than vice versa. We always try and encourage get togethers at ours, we know we are being selfish but none of our friends know how to lay on a party like us Grin

Itsalonghaul · 07/04/2021 08:26

We always try and encourage get togethers at ours, we know we are being selfish but none of our friends know how to lay on a party like us grin

You sound like the perfect friend, can we all come???

HighlandCowbag · 07/04/2021 08:28

I love hosting, rarely get invited anywhere else but when I do I don't really enjoy it, always feel a bit awkward in someone elses house.

I have good guests tho, they always contribute, always byob and always bring food. If its a meal I do the main, others bring sides/starters/puddings. If it's a BBQ salads or one particular friend always brings substantial contributions to the meat.

honeylulu · 07/04/2021 08:30

I'm socially anxious and I mainly hate hosting. I do it (in non covid times) once or twice a year and really push the boat out - pay for all food and drink. I can cope with smaller individual hosting (one friend or couple at a time) but even then I can still get agitated about what to cook etc .

It's easier now most friends kids are older and they tend to come without them. When there was a houseful of kids tearing around upstairs the mess (and sometimes damage) was horrendous. My friends are much more relaxed about that stuff, allow food and drink upstairs etc and I hate that.
My eldest has ASD and hates people in his room but the other boys all seemed to make a beeline for it as that's where the xbox was.

Mylovelyhorsee · 07/04/2021 08:31

Next time I’d say “we’re happy to come to you this time, I feel bad that is you doing all the travelling”

BigFatLiar · 07/04/2021 08:32

We don't do dinner parties, we'd rather eat out. Don't host and although we'd go if invited by a friend would really prefer a pub meal.

No problem with friends coming around visiting, a drink, fish & chips, take-away. Informal, unorganised, relaxed. Our friends & family know they're welcome, we just don't do parties (dinner or otherwise) and don't do BBQs (other than just for us very occasionally)

Barbie222 · 07/04/2021 08:39

I always suggest meeting outside the home. I don't really like going to other people's houses due to pet and dust allergies and hosting other people can be really hard work if they have kids - inevitably things get broken, damaged and the clean up has always been horrendous. I d be happy to host adults now and again but I do struggle with visiting others so as pp have said it doesn't seem fair.

user123456778 · 07/04/2021 08:39

Entertaining at home is my idea of hell, I just don't like the hassle of it all and I don't like people being in my space - I find it way too much pressure and completely unenjoyable so would always prefer to meet elsewhere

junebirthdaygirl · 07/04/2021 08:40

I wrote already about how stressful l find hosting. Just a few things: l am not shy. I can talk to anyone. Say at a wedding if l am put beside complete strangers l will soon be chatting away and am recognised as being very good at this. Same with new staff at work etc. I never had problems with playdates. The more the merrier. Always had loads of kids at birthday parties and always at home. I am a teacher so used to lots of kids. Always had parents in for coffee when collecting etc. Loved having teens friends around. Staying over, full house, college friends , meals ..the lot.
But my own friends are totally into food/ cooking and l am totally overwhelmed by it all. I would be very happy never to go to their houses ever again so l don't feel bad about having such a block about having them over. They all comment on all the food, wine etc nonstop and it makes me so anxious. A big part is my dh , although completely able to do his share at all other times, is absolutely useless with guests so it even makes me more stressed. Actually l am realising lately that it all stems from a particular family years ago who stayed for a few days. She made so many comments on my cooking even saying once..l think this dish is overdone by people as a dinner option. I completely lost my confidence with foodies and cannot do it since.
Reading some comments here really hits home but at this stage it's like having a fear of water..totally irrational but taking over.

honeylulu · 07/04/2021 08:40

On the flip side I have a friend who always prefers people to go to hers. If someone else is hosting or we agree to go out probably 2 times out of 3 she doesn't show up because she is suddenly "feeling a bit under the weather". When we go to hers though she is the life and soul, makes lovely food etc.

Everyone is different. I agree it's shit of people to just take all the time but you can "give" in different ways.

onemouseplace · 07/04/2021 08:50

I don’t mind hosting - I’m not wild about it as our place is small so the kids are always around now they are older, but I am happy enough to do it.

One thing I did notice about my friends who were much keener to host was that when I did try and arrange to have people over, it rarely happened as they would drop out/ it was hard to pin down a date. So I stopped trying. And now they probably see me as someone who rarely hosts.

SuperintendentHastings · 07/04/2021 08:50

I love hosting and there are a few of us all (in normal times all host each other). One couple hate hosting (and have said so) but every year they take everyone out for a fabulous dinner instead.

Another couple used to always come to other people's houses and to the annual dinner out but never reciprocated - never bothered me particularly until someone pointed out that they always drank more than everyone else and didn't bring as much as a bottle of cheap plonk. It dawned on me that the woman was fond of arranging to meet for a coffee and always 'forgetting' her purse. She did this with all of us and had never once had any of us round even for a cup of tea. Again it was kind of a 🤷 for me. Then we hosted again (just before lockdown) and noticed when they were leaving that he had an unopened bottle in his hand. He had gone into the fridge and taken the bottle of very expensive champagne that someone had given DH as a 50th present a couple of weeks previously. I took it back.

So while I don't think people need to host if they don't want to, they perhaps shouldn't keep accepting invitations from others. And they definitely shouldn't take the piss either.

ReadyPlayerGo · 07/04/2021 08:54

I love hosting. I’ve started to temper the frequency and extravagance though, as it isn’t often reciprocated.

We used to have big Christmas parties every year with 60/70 friends over. Fabulous event, huge amounts of fun, not much preparation needed as the house is already decorated, caterers took care of food and serving, which just left the cleaning up the next day (took 6 hours) and the enormous cost. I stopped planning it a few years back, as it just became expected as an annual event. I kind of thought it should be someone else’s turn. Seems no one wants to do that, so around December we stick to smaller dinners at our house or at a nice pub. I still get asked when our next big party is and get tagged in fb memory posts every December. The answer is the year after someone else hosts!

We still have birthday parties and bbqs at home, but they’re on a much smaller scale of 20ish people. I do need to get better at saying yes when asked if a friend can bring anything, as I always say just bring yourselves.

One of our friends is amazingly canny/cheeky as she literally gets everything catered by friends. At their last bbq before covid, they literally provided the bbq coal and condiments 😆 For some reason, they even borrowed our bbq tongs 🤨 The invite said “bring what you’d like to eat and drink”. So funny. She also hosts pot luck dinners, which are the weirdest random array of lukewarm food. She’s American, so it may be cultural. They are fairly well off, so it is strange to only partially host something. I even wish she’d cater fully and then ask for the money instead of everyone bringing a random uncoordinated dish.

Actually she’s the same friend who invited us over to share a takeaway. She lived 2 doors away. We arrived on time, but at the same time as HER delivery driver arrived with HER order. We get inside their house and the husband was waiting for us to arrive before ordering HIS takeaway, but apparently she was too hungry. Honestly the weirdest thing. We basically ordered a takeaway for ourselves, paid for it ourselves and ate it off their plates, drinking the wine we brought over. Whilst paying for a babysitter to sit in our house 😂

I do think hospitality should be reciprocated in some way. I never judge someone else’s house etc, so I don’t understand why someone’s house would be a barrier to hosting, especially if others bring dishes/wine etc.