Davina McCall's tweet

[SummerWhisper]

Davina McCall tweeted that female abduction / murder is extremely rare and that this level of fearmongering isn't good for men's mental health.

I don't understand why she is attempting to shift the narrative back to how men are feeling after yet another woman's life has been brutally ended BY A MAN.

For fuck's sake, Davina, we have a prominent voice this week, a huge platform to raise awareness about how most of us have to make so many micro- and macro-adjustments to allow for men's violence and here you are, putting men's health in the centre of all this.

Am I being unreasonable in thinking she should apologise and remove her tweet?

I don’t necessarily agree with the tweet but I’m unclear why you think she should apologise and delete it. You disagree with it so it shouldn’t exist? She’s entitled to her opinion and to express it. You’re entitled to disagree. That’s that really isn’t it?

Why draw attention to her? There are lots of women who are all about the men.

Ffs why don’t you just go and argue this on Twitter instead of needing another post about a post on another platform

Also as previous lifer said she can have an opinion.

Ah, Davina. Famous crime expert and feminist.

YABU. That's her opinion and she's entitled to have one, and you are entitled to disagree with it.

Don't know what your aim is reposting it on here.

Am I being unreasonable in thinking she should apologise and remove her tweet?

Yes, totally unreasonable. She's allowed to have an opinion, and you're allowed to not agree. She doesn't owe you or anyone else an apology.

I really hate this notion that people are not allowed to have an unpopular opinion any more. It’s not in any way healthy for our society to seek to shut down an opinion that doesn’t conform to the mass rule one.

Female abduction is extremely rare. Women are at far more risk of physical and sexual assault from the men they live with. And they are at a lot of risk from them. So I do kind of find the uproar over this one murder to be irrational.

But, as other threads have documented, women are sexually harassed and assaulted by men an awful lot. So much so that the #notallmen tag really doesn't ring true. I mean, of course it won't be quite all men, a few wont, but it is the vast majority at some point in their lives - especially in their teens/twenties. These men that do it - most men - they people's brothers, sons, husbands. Why shouldn't it be bad for them to hear this from us?

of course it won't be quite all men, a few wont

This is probably what Davina is getting at. People saying the vast majority of men harass and assault women.

She absolutely shouldn’t have to apologise and delete - it’s her view and she’s entitled to it. Stop policing people’s opinions - it’s dangerous and leads no where good.

I don't agree with her, but she's entitled to her opinion. I don't agree with shutting down people and forcing them to apologise for wrong thing. She's not the appointed voice for all women. Just one person expressing an opinion. She is wrong though.

I agree with her tbh

People saying the vast majority of men harass and assault women.

Well either they do, or a minority of men are extremely busy. 🤔

I dunno, I sort of see her point. It is rare, and actually why tarnish all men with that particular brush? Most men are pretty decent people. And I do feel, as a woman, that there has been a lot of fear mongering as a result of this case. Personally I have never felt scared walking alone as I know the chances of anything happening to me are slim.

I think it's a bit grandiose of Davina to claim that this is affecting men's mental health, I imagine it really isn't, but she's allowed her opinion.

I'm British but have lived abroad for some years...I'm unsure as to why this case has garnered such a massive outrage? Not that that's bad of course! It's important that it has!

But women are murdered all the time...what's different about this one that's made things change in the media?

I would say you're in a minority there in not being afraid to walk alone garlic. Unless of course you live in a really safe place. with no men

It's just horribly tone deaf. Jesus.

@Erkrie

People saying the vast majority of men harass and assault women.

Well either they do, or a minority of men are extremely busy. 🤔

Not sure about that.

Not sure about what?

Now she'll get hate. Let's focus back on the fact that some bastard killed an innocent woman.

I don't really disagree with her. It is rare and it isn't healthy to be fearful all the time. Women are at much greater physical danger at home. However the lower level looks, comments, unwanted touching and public harassment is completely ingrained. Men and boys are taught by other men to do it, women are taught to accept it, or shrug it off. It's not OK. But the physical danger as represented by this particular case is highly unusual.

@FortunesFave

I'm British but have lived abroad for some years...I'm unsure as to why this case has garnered such a massive outrage? Not that that's bad of course! It's important that it has!

But women are murdered all the time...what's different about this one that's made things change in the media?

Because she was a young woman walking home. Because she was wearing sensible shoes, brightly coloured clothes, sticking to main road and calling her boyfriend to let him know she was on her way home like we're told to do.

And she was still killed.

Women should be able to walk home at 9pm on a Wednesday evening without that happening.

Also the man who has been charged is a policeman. Whose job is literally to keep the population safe.

I'm surprised you're surprised. Is this sort of thing common where you live?

I completely disagree with her, but I think policing of others opinion is dangerous.

I’m not saying people should be allowed to say whatever that want without repercussions. Things that incite hate and violence etc, should always be called our. No one should be allowed to class racism, homophobia etc as an opinion. But just because we find someone’s opinions distasteful, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have a right to have them.

@SummerWhisper

Do you not believe in freedom of speech?

I disagree with what she has written, but have voted YABU because you want her to apologise and remove her tweet. We can't live in an echo chamber where alternative opinions are repressed and censored.