Davina McCall's tweet

[SummerWhisper]

Davina McCall tweeted that female abduction / murder is extremely rare and that this level of fearmongering isn't good for men's mental health.

I don't understand why she is attempting to shift the narrative back to how men are feeling after yet another woman's life has been brutally ended BY A MAN.

For fuck's sake, Davina, we have a prominent voice this week, a huge platform to raise awareness about how most of us have to make so many micro- and macro-adjustments to allow for men's violence and here you are, putting men's health in the centre of all this.

Am I being unreasonable in thinking she should apologise and remove her tweet?

I hate the idea that we are no longer allowed to disagree and those that we do disagree with should have to back down. This whole 'cancel culture' is getting beyond a joke. You disagree with her fair enough does not mean she should have to delete her post. Attacking Davies is missing the point.

I am raising a son alongside his sister, it is our job as parents to raise him to respect women and think before he speaks and acts to remember every women deserves respect not just his mum or sister. I don't belive it is helpful to demonise all men but there are too many stories of women not feeling safe because of how a man has behaved and collectively men need to be having a conversation about this.

Yes abduction and murder is rare. But indecent exposure isn't. None of this stuff happens in a vacuum. It's a continuum.

And by saying not all men, we are allowing men to sit back and not try and find a solution to male violence.

And yes, not all Muslims are terrorists. But the Muslim community was put under intense pressure to sort out the issue of radicalisation. Why are we expecting men to sort out male violence?

*Davina not Davies

@hoorayforharoldlloyd brilliant post

She’s an idiot who needs to better read the room- whose mental health discussions on women’s safety is affecting I don’t know.

I dont like her tweet and i also dont like all lives matter response, or police lives matter

Please can we stop policing opinions and monopolising victimhood in order to push agendas?

People need to stop posting as if the suspect has been convicted. He hasn’t. And posts such as ones above are actually considered to be contempt of court once a suspect has been charged and before a trial.

She has every right to voice her opinion and I completely agree with her.

@Losttheequipment

I really hate this notion that people are not allowed to have an unpopular opinion any more. It’s not in any way healthy for our society to seek to shut down an opinion that doesn’t conform to the mass rule one.

This.

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

She’s an idiot who needs to better read the room- whose mental health discussions on women’s safety is affecting I don’t know.

It's not affecting anyone's mental health, not men's certainly. Men are being asked (a) to not harass, attack or murder women, or (b) to challenge bad behaviour by other men when they see it. Telling women to shut up and stop saying this because their mental health might be affected by having to do one of these two things suggests that men's convenience is far more important than women's right to exist in public.

It's publicity for her

I really hate this notion that people are not allowed to have an unpopular opinion any more. It’s not in any way healthy for our society to seek to shut down an opinion that doesn’t conform to the mass rule one
Exactly this. So much press about bullying, at work or school, men being controlling and abusive, yet we see the exact same behaviour from women towards those who don't agree with them.

I agree with the tweet , imagine another group had been cited, say Muslims because of the terrorist attacks there would be a huge outcry and rightly so. We should not demonise a whole group of people due to a small number of their number who commit a crime.

In addition I feel that to criticise her from voicing her view and to say she shouldn't is to be want to stifle free speech

@Pyewackect

She has every right to voice her opinion and I completely agree with her.

Perhaps you could clarify how men's mental health is being affected by being asked not to harass, rape or murder, or by being asked to challenge the bad behaviour of other men when they see it?

I try so hard not to judge but that comment was offensive to me

Agreed, I was offended too

@twelly

I agree with the tweet , imagine another group had been cited, say Muslims because of the terrorist attacks there would be a huge outcry and rightly so. We should not demonise a whole group of people due to a small number of their number who commit a crime.

In addition I feel that to criticise her from voicing her view and to say she shouldn't is to be want to stifle free speech

Still waiting to understand how we are demonising all men by casting a light on statistical data on violence against women and asking women how they feel in certain situations. Ie. Walking home alone.

I agree with the general point about free speech. But the whole point of Davina's tweet is that she wants women to shut up and stop talking about this because men don't like to hear that their sex is the more violent one. So you're saying that she has free speech to try to stop other people speaking out.

Btw I think she has every right to voice an opinion, I just think it’s a foolish comment at the wrong time

@HeartsAndClubs

But women are murdered all the time...what's different about this one that's made things change in the media? she was young, white, and pretty.

That is a disgusting post, you should be ashamed of yourself. The poor woman hasn't been buried yet and here you are politicising her murder. Not only is that crass and heartless but show now empathy whatsoever. (obvs not envy)

This was of high media interest because luckily stranger abduction is rare and now we know the suspect is from the met police.

To say that "she was young, white, and pretty" is misogynist and horribly distorts any genuine fight against racism. It's called being a keyboard warrior

But then, in true simplistic twitter style, it's oh so easy to throw around a few hollow keywords and feel like you are 'right on'. In this case however you have shown a massive empathy fail

YANBU. It's a stupid, idiotic tweet, centering men. She's completely misread the room.

However, I hope she leaves it up as testament to her lack of thinking.

Perhaps you could clarify how men's mental health is being affected by being asked not to harass, rape or murder, or by being asked to challenge the bad behaviour of other men when they see it? perhaps the fact that most men shouldn’t have to be told not to murder women would be a good start?

Do you go up to every Muslim and think they should be told not to don a suicide vest and blow up a load of innocent civilians?

Look at the fact that black men are routinely stopped and searched because some black people are guilty of certain crimes, meaning all of them have been put under the same banner.

What about the assumption that all gay men are HIV positive because HIV is more prominent within the gay community...

The list goes on, but people feel it’s ok to justify this one particular stereotype because they feel it applies to them, and yet those same people would defend the others to the max, and question how anyone could dare make such broad assumptions.

I do feel, as a woman, that there has been a lot of fear mongering as a result of this case. Personally I have never felt scared walking alone as I know the chances of anything happening to me are slim

I agree @garlictwist and this week has got me wondering if I'm too relaxed about this. I stick my earphones in and go walking whether it's light or dark and I never think about feeling worried about what might happen. I genuinely didn't realise that I was in the minority.

Davina McCall always has been a pick me sort of woman. She’s barely relevant at this point in time so any publicity is better than none.

All of you saying she's entitled to her opinion - you're right. So is the OP for thinking its a bad post.

Her post is asking women to be quiet and make it ok for men. How is that not silencing women?

It's not as rare - many families have someone. Mine does. Most women know many people who've been sexually assaulted. The reason this has taken off is women are being listened to. And then to be told...ssshhh...don't make the men uncomfortable.

But women are murdered all the time - was posted - doesn't that say everything?

I know a forensic specialist in sexual crimes and even she says she wouldn't report it - look at the massive reduction in numbers of rape prosecutions. They're not , not happening. They're not being taken forward.