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AIBU to not want second hand baby stuff from SIL

186 replies

InkyHands · 11/03/2021 23:58

NC because this could be outing. I know how precious I sound...

DH and I are expecting our first baby soon. We’ve already bought most of the things we need and last week SIL (DH’s sister) offered us a bunch of baby stuff - towels, muslins, sheets, blankets, bottle warmers, and so on. Generally speaking, I’ve not wanted anything second hand. This is our first baby and so I naturally have new parent syndrome and want everything to be the best and new. I’ve also been buying things that we can use re-use when we have a second child, so I’ve been going for good quality, popular brands, etc in the hope that if we have number 2, the items will still be in decent condition to use again.

But when DH ran by me the list of things his sister was offering, I actually thought great, these are things we will need, I can maybe keep her things at my parents so I have supplies and stuff there. So I agreed that she should send it across.

The box arrived a few days ago, and I’m not too happy with what she sent. Everything looks old and well used. The towels are rough, anything white now looks grey, and so on. I’m actually really disappointed and don’t want any of it.

What I’m not sure of is whether I’m disappointed because of the quality, or because it’s from SIL.

There is also another issue with SIL. So...her husband is a racist who has a massive issue with me. I’m an ethnic minority and from a different religion whilst my DH, his family and SIL’s husband are all white. After DH and I got engaged, SIL’s husband made it clear he’s against our relationship, boycotted the wedding, stopped DH from having any relationship with his nephew and wants nothing to do with us. TBH, after all that he said and did, we want nothing to do with him either so it’s just about bearable as we don’t live anywhere near each other.

But naturally, I can’t stand the guy and because of all that, SIL and I are not close and don’t speak that often. She has tried to build a relationship but I’m just not interested. It genuinely hurts me that she has never once acknowledged to me that her husband is a shit and the way he has behaved is not ok. Part of me actually wonders if she agrees to some extent, which has enabled him to be so open about his views but that’s a whole other post!

So when this massive box of baby stuff arrived and we opened it, I was gutted by what was inside. I genuinely don’t know if I was put off by the quality of the stuff, but as I kept looking through it I was thinking this is stuff SIL’s husband has bought and used, I don’t want it.

DH would like me to message his sister to tell her how grateful we are. He is really keen for me to build a relationship with her, and he admitted that him asking me to message her is intended to make her feel good so she doesn’t think we don’t want any of her stuff because of her husband. Except that is how I feel - I don’t see why I should make her feel better when she’s not done anything to make me feel better.

But equally, maybe I’m using her husband as an excuse for not wanting second hand stuff for baby and being a bit of a snob. I genuinely don’t know! DH could tell I wasn’t excited by any of the things she sent but I’ve not expressly told him I don’t want it. To be honest my plan is to just never use it...

AIBU for not wanting it and never intending to use any of it? And to not tell DH or anyone that’s what I’m planning to do...

OP posts:
ppan4454 · 12/03/2021 00:01

You do realise that when baby comes, you really won't have the time to be worrying about stuff like this.
However... being racist is NEVER ok, I'd just let your husband text her and say thanks.

ppan4454 · 12/03/2021 00:02

Just put the stuff away and then hand it back when you're 'finished' with it.

Firstbellini · 12/03/2021 00:03

Just put it away in a cupboard and then get rid of it when everyone has forgotten about it.

Get what you want for your baby. Flowers

Returnoftheowl · 12/03/2021 00:06

Your husband should be the one to thank his sister. It's not up to him to force a relationship between the pair of you.

Lightwindows · 12/03/2021 00:07

I think that as you agreed to take the baby stuff it would be polite to thank her for it, even if you're not happy with it, she offered and you accepted after all. If you live nowhere near each other she'll probably never know if you never use any of it. Can you put it in the loft and hope DH forgets about it if you don't want to say anything to him about it?
BIL sounds absolutely awful, sorry you've had to deal with that Flowers

ZackaryQuack · 12/03/2021 00:08

There's no harm in sending her a quick thanks message. You don't need to go into detail of what's in the box just simply "hi sil, the box has arrived, thanks for sending it, it'll be useful stuff to have" and leave it there, you're bot required to use it. And I understand your reservations,especially with her husband attitude.

Like pp said racism is never OK, so if you'd rather your dh said thanks for you both, that's equally ok, just talk to him.

Alexindiamondarmour · 12/03/2021 00:11

I don’t think you need to thank her at all. You already don’t have much of a relationship - leave it that way and get your DH to thank her. She is his sister and the stuff is for his baby too, so I don’t see why you need to get involved.

BackforGood · 12/03/2021 00:19

so I naturally have new parent syndrome and want everything to be the best and new.

....stretching a point to think everybody thinks like that. Many of us were very, very, very appreciative of all the kindness shown to us when expecting our first.

However Being a racist is never okay. Your dh's BiL sounds awful, and I'm surprised that if his sister won't acknowledge that, that your dh wants to have a relationship with her.

That, though has nothing to do with the clothes, and other things. It seems she kindly offered, you (as a couple) said yes please, so the right and proper thing to do is to say 'thanks very much'. It is a quick text, or however any communication usually happens - whether that comes from him or you, for me, would depend on who she had the first conversation with asking if you wanted it. You (as a couple) would be incredibly rude not to thank her.

I don't think it is a clear YABU or YANBU as you've mixed lots of different things into your OP.

On a surface level, if someone gives you a gift then you thank them for it.
Looking at the whole history, you wouldn't have been unreasonable to have gone completely non-contact in the first place - but then why agree to have the things offered ??

PubicMenace · 12/03/2021 00:23

Do they want it all back sometime? If not bin the lot. If they do - shove it in a loft and hand it back in six month's time.

Leave it for your DH to manage them. I would have no truck with racists myself.

SparklingLime · 12/03/2021 00:23

Your DH should be supporting you in dealing with the racism from BIL, and SIL’s failure to criticise his racism. You should be able to be open with your DH about how you feel about both of them and their behaviour. If you don’t feel that you can then that’s a problem - does your DH not support you fully in this?

Seriously, you’re meant to get excited about the cast-offs of a child whose father prevents you or your DH having any relationship with due to racism?

Firstbellini · 12/03/2021 00:28

I wouldn’t want anything to do with your sil unless she is trapped in this relationship due to abuse.

Her own son can’t see your family because her husband is so vile? Why doesn’t she stand up to him and bring her son around?

Marty13 · 12/03/2021 00:31

"I'm surprised that if his sister won't acknowledge that, that your dh wants to have a relationship with her."

I'm surprised that you're surprised. She is his sister. If my brother married a racist I wouldn't be happy about it but he'd still be my brother and I'd still love him. I wouldn't tolerate him being rude to my wife, but I wouldn't cut him out of my life just because I hate his spouse.

Back to OP's question. I agree that since you said you wanted the stuff you should send a thank you message to the sister. It doesn't mean you have to use the stuff and the thank you doesn't have to be effusive.
As an aside, I've found baby clothes to be generally bad quality. I think manufacturers know that babies will use the stuff a couple of months tops and don't bother overly much with quality. I mean, clearly your SIL has used it so it's stuff she likes, not rubbish that she got especially for you.

Send her a quick polite thanks and put the whole thing out of your mind ! It's not worth you fretting so much over it.

cabingirl · 12/03/2021 01:41

Send a thank you note to the sister-in-law - you are thanking her for her intention and thoughts not the actual product.

Pack them all in a box and put in the attic.

About nine months after the baby is born - message her to see if she wants anything back or you can pass on when you don't need anymore.

Either give back or bin.

You have preserved the relationship for your DH's sake without having to use stuff you don't like and you the racist husband has no part of any of it.

Mummy1608 · 12/03/2021 01:56

Two separate things:

YANBU that the racist BIL is horrible and puts you off having a relationship with SIL. You do not have to be friends with her.

YABU for wanting only new things for your baby. (I'm also FTM with a baby). Not only is it bad for the environment, but you will end up buying all kinds of expensive xrap you'll never use, because you don't know what you'll need. Second hand stuff, especially the worn grey stuff, is tried and tested. Eg I bought tops and bloomers for my baby, but received 2nd hand sleepsuits and vests which is all we use now. I've received all kinds of handy stuff I didn't know I needed, and bought silly things I didn't need. Trust the wisdom of other mums and be kind to the environment by reusing things.

SandAndSea · 12/03/2021 02:05

I would just thank her by text. I might say something like, "Thanks so much for thinking of us. I'm sure we'll be able to make good use of it. Are you happy for me to pass on to others what we don't use?"

Maybe I've read too much mn but, given there's already tension, I would get clarification about whether she wants any of it back. Hopefully, she doesn't and you can just move it along.

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/03/2021 02:11

@Returnoftheowl

Your husband should be the one to thank his sister. It's not up to him to force a relationship between the pair of you.
This.

My BIL is a racist. You have my sympathy. Sad

FelicityBeedle · 12/03/2021 02:21

I think I’m going to set up a social media swap site, for people who desperately don’t want their family’s baby stuff, and those incredibly put out that they aren’t offered anything

grannyinapram · 12/03/2021 02:27

@Mummy1608

Two separate things:

YANBU that the racist BIL is horrible and puts you off having a relationship with SIL. You do not have to be friends with her.

YABU for wanting only new things for your baby. (I'm also FTM with a baby). Not only is it bad for the environment, but you will end up buying all kinds of expensive xrap you'll never use, because you don't know what you'll need. Second hand stuff, especially the worn grey stuff, is tried and tested. Eg I bought tops and bloomers for my baby, but received 2nd hand sleepsuits and vests which is all we use now. I've received all kinds of handy stuff I didn't know I needed, and bought silly things I didn't need. Trust the wisdom of other mums and be kind to the environment by reusing things.

This I had no idea what we actually needed as a ftm and like the pp, used mostly the tried and tested, worn out things I got second hand and never used the stuff I chose myself. I had no clue!
23PissOffAvenueWF · 12/03/2021 02:49

Why do you have to be trotted out to send the ‘thank you’ text?

Why can’t your DH just send it? She his sister. It will be his baby. It’s his relationship to maintain, not yours.

Why do you - the person on the receiving end of unacceptable behaviour - have to be the one to send it?

That’s absolutely not OK.

Italiangreyhound · 12/03/2021 02:50

Agree with cabingirl

"Send a thank you note to the sister-in-law - you are thanking her for her intention and thoughts not the actual product.

Pack them all in a box and put in the attic.

About nine months after the baby is born - message her to see if she wants anything back or you can pass on when you don't need anymore.

Either give back or bin."

Good luck with your baby.

tigertreats · 12/03/2021 02:52

I'd keep the box of stuff - I think you'll be surprised at how much you need and how many. For example , a bottle warmer upstairs can be really useful.
Thank the SIL. She will love your baby when born as is her family and you can never have too many people who love your baby.

Racism is unacceptable in all forms. OP I hope the sister in law helps in this respect - if she doesn't realise the absolute disgusting nature of any comments or issues when she has a niece or nephew that this is directed at then they aren't worth being in contact with. Family members should be brimming with love and pride for your baby.
Good luck with the baby and enjoy every minute. I'd do anything to have those first few hours again- magical ! Xx

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/03/2021 02:55

Send a thank you note to the sister-in-law - you are thanking her for her intention and thoughts not the actual product.

Wifework at its finest. OP doesn't want it, doesn't want a relationship, doesn't feel grateful but has to message to say thanks. The man does want it, does want a relationship and wants thanks to be expressed but doesn't have to message.

This is one of the very many reasons we still need feminism.

timeisnotaline · 12/03/2021 02:56

So have you not met her child since getting married? If dh asked to meet in a park she’d say no little Charles can’t be in contact with the likes of you?
If she’s going along with that when presumably she could just jump in the car and come over she is either agreeing with her dh, or a complete abuse victim. I wouldn’t use it at all or thank her if the former.
But generally, first time mums love second hand things!

whatwherewhywhenhow · 12/03/2021 02:56

I’m sorry your BIL is a pig but that’s a separate issue to the baby clothes issue.

Get your husband to thank his sister then put them in the attic/garage/storage/under the bed and move on with your life.

Kazkepper123 · 12/03/2021 03:00

I agree with the poster about about @SandAndSea regarding asking if she wants it back.