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What do we think about THIS....Trigger warning - Graphic Image **title edited by MNHQ

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Nothappywiththis · 14/02/2021 15:36

I’m not in support of thus. AIBU??

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Thisisworsethananticpated · 14/02/2021 18:12

No no no
No
I never get Involved in this conversation usually
But this has to be a game changer
Probably won’t but 😞

IrmaFayLear · 14/02/2021 18:13

Basically this boxer sounds like a grade A arsehole.

What possesses such a person to choose a contact/combat sport ? Surely a decent human being would think, yes, I am a trans woman, yes, I want to live my life equally, but no, I appreciate my physique could do serious harm to a woman so I’ll select another sport.

Covidcorvid · 14/02/2021 18:14

@zoemum2006

This sounds like bull. Fights have referees. No one should have their heads bashed in (man or woman).

You also need to be in an appropriate weight class.

This sounds like anti-trans propaganda TBH.

But I guess it only takes one hard punch to fracture a skull. 🤷‍♀️

Yes, they may be categorised by weight but men are stronger and punch harder.

JemimaRacktool · 14/02/2021 18:15

I can't believe boxing still happens in this day and age.

OhAnotherNameChange · 14/02/2021 18:15

YANBU, this is horrific.
But from what I know of Fallon Fox it seems beating women is an enjoyable pastime for them.

HitchFlix · 14/02/2021 18:15

Sweet Jesus Sad

OhAnotherNameChange · 14/02/2021 18:18

@Lightningcrops

It has gone too far. The people I feel sorry for are those who wish to live as trans, who accept that transwomen are transwomen, and transmen are transmen, and are being bundled in with those who are taking steps to erase and deny biology. After all, people have been trans for years and years without demanding all of this, this has an ulterior motive.
Absolutely agree.
Caketroubles · 14/02/2021 18:18

@zoemum2006

This sounds like bull. Fights have referees. No one should have their heads bashed in (man or woman).

You also need to be in an appropriate weight class.

This sounds like anti-trans propaganda TBH.

This work should be far more fair than it is. Wishing for something does not mean it is happening.
Redrunbluerun · 14/02/2021 18:18

This will destroy women’s sport, it already is. With weight lifting records being smashed by those born in male bodies.
Such a shame.

LunaHeather · 14/02/2021 18:19

@SummerBlondey

I'm so angry about this. Have discussed it many times with DH, who thinks that the only thing that will put a stop to this, is a woman getting killed by a trans gender opponent. I definitely agree.

How foes Fallon even feel victorious when "she" wins. You're a bloke FFS!

I think for some people, death of an opponent would be a victory.

It's weird for me because I am not anti boxing...but with that possibility in mind, maybe I should be.

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FrankButchersDickieBow · 14/02/2021 18:24

@zoemum2006

This sounds like bull. Fights have referees. No one should have their heads bashed in (man or woman).

You also need to be in an appropriate weight class.

This sounds like anti-trans propaganda TBH.

My god. How niave are you?

I suppose you think it's anti-trans propaganda that males identifying as females are taking scholarships and college spaces from biological females after beating them in races?

SarahBellam · 14/02/2021 18:25

That’s appalling. My DP is the same weight as me. However, he is far, far, stronger than me. If he wanted (he doesn’t) to, he could easily kill me in seconds and there wouldn’t be a damn thing I could do about it.

ChestnutStuffing · 14/02/2021 18:26

@Ostryga

I’m starting to think that we just need to get rid of the men. Just, chuck them all in a volcano or something. Life wouldn’t be perfect, but it won’t be this insanity constantly.
It's not really something they came up with on their own though. A ot of people come out of the era of "girls are the same as boys and it's sexist to say otherwise."

This comes out any time you see discussions of women in action films, or in jobs like firefighting, but even in boxing crazily enough. Back in the 90s there was a boxing film, called GirlFight. The female lead became a great boxer, was dating a male boxer a little older and with more experience. They couldn't find enough girls for her to compete against, so she beat one male boxer at the club and then was supposed to fight the boyfriend.

He was against it and this was shown as him disrespecting her ability and personhood - it was his latent sexism. She fought him, and won, and then believed he really respected her because he hadn't help back.

It was actually a great film except that bit, which was completely idiotic. But very typical of the narrative at the time.

AnitaB888 · 14/02/2021 18:26

I don't like this at all.

But this is what happens when PC is taken to it's limits.

There is a big hoo-ha over the pond with Biden and transgender rights in sport.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9173767/Biden-signs-divisive-executive-order-pushing-schools-include-transgender-athletes-girls-sport.html

Mrgrinch · 14/02/2021 18:27

Absolutely disgusting. I'm scared to live in this world.

itallworkedouthorribly · 14/02/2021 18:27

Gosh, no. I'm usually not particularly sympathetic to the trans threads on here but I'm in agreement on this one. Absolutely not.

itallworkedouthorribly · 14/02/2021 18:29

However I think a lot of trans people would be in agreement that this is wrong, which also should be noted.

Andrea87 · 14/02/2021 18:30

This is so wrong.
Men are born and develop to be stronger and faster - biological fact. So any contact sport, or any other sport where strength and speed is a factor including running, tennis and many other contests should not be allowed in this way. Any sport where strength and and speed don’t matter - tactical challenges where it is about thinking - should be ok. E.g. chess.
So if a man wants to win and thinks he will have a better chance to do so as a woman then what’s stopping him doing this?

itallworkedouthorribly · 14/02/2021 18:30

I’m starting to think that we just need to get rid of the men. Just, chuck them all in a volcano or something. Life wouldn’t be perfect, but it won’t be this insanity constantly.

Got a problem with this too though...

IrmaFayLear · 14/02/2021 18:30

I was just googling and apparently two “transgender health experts” (vested interest, much) said they were ok to fight because of the hormone taking and that their previous male sex did not confer an advantage. Yeah, right.

itallworkedouthorribly · 14/02/2021 18:31

Nope, you should feel sick.

No, you do not get to decide whose brain you invade with this.

Helmetbymidnight · 14/02/2021 18:32

i find all male bodies in womens sports appalling.

i cant understand how anyone thinks its a good thing. the only explanation i can come up with is:
a- not very bright
b - complete misogynist.

its so sad what they are doing to young women athletes in the US. shameful.

thenightsky · 14/02/2021 18:34

@OhAnotherNameChange

YANBU, this is horrific. But from what I know of Fallon Fox it seems beating women is an enjoyable pastime for them.
You missed the word 'up'.

beating UP women is an enjoyable pastime for them.

HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 14/02/2021 18:35

YANBU but if also like to point out to the PPs saying they chose to compete against FF - they did not know FF was a trans woman until after they fractured their skull.

However, even if they did it wouldn't make it less unfair - women have trained hard to compete at this level and need to pay their bills etc.

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