To think Mumsnet isn't any better than Tattle life?

[DebbieDowner101]

The site claims to be "commentary and critique of people who chose to monetise their lives as a business and release it to the public domain"

From my time on the site I've found it to be just that. Honest, and well measured critique of someone who has chosen to market themselves and/or their families online.

The threads I've seen via Instagramers claiming to be bullied has just been people giving a perfectly reasonable negative opinion on them, or something they have done. Surely if you are putting yourself online to gain followers you accept the good and the bad, and that not everything negative is bullying, still just an opinion?

Mumsnet on the other hand claims to be a resource of support for parents, but I regularly see posters jumped etc usually on a perfectly reasonable post.

AIBU to think Mumsnet isn't any holier?

@Maybe83

I think tattle is the cesspit of the internet.

From reading threads on there it is filled with jealous, insecure miserable people who's pass time it is stalking people online.

They are the epitome of school yard bullies. I have yet to see a thread that I dont read and think what miserable and pathetic lifes those people have.

It stems from pure jealousy and misery if you ask me. Wrapped up in some moral crusade.

I have seen some awful awful posts on there with lots of your so right clap on the backs.

It seems you can say whatever you want if its targeted externally, but god help you if you even attempt to disagree with the pack mentality. The moderation is shocking.

I dont think its comparable to mumsnet.

Why read there then? Bizarre.

There is literally months and months and months worth of hate on there for Mrs hinch.

I don’t understand how they are not bored of slating the same person after so long!

I don’t get the Hinch obsession either. I do think there is a fair amount of hypocrisy on this thread as not sure all the posters preaching are always as kind online as they insist others should be.

@Liftmusic how do you decide if you have an interest to join or post on a site if you don't read it? Unless of course I am supposed to have some sort of physic abilities I just don't know about.

No what is bizarre is going to the trouble of getting someone who you dont know house plans and posting them online.

Really how little must someone in their life to do something like that.

There's plenty of people I dislike- say piers Morgan. He's a wanker. If he comes up in conversation I might be like "oh what a wanker' but what I don't do is hate watch gmb every morning, go on a forum to post the minutae of piers Morgan misendevours, the blueprint of his house etc. Messaging piers local council to say he's broken a lock down rule, or not home educated his kids. That's obsessive, stalkerish behaviour and quite frankly unhealthy

Exactly. There's a big difference.

There is some shocking content on Tattle for sure, but then there's also some really good things happen too. There was an IG "boss babe" influencer, Sarah Akwisombe, who scammed nearly a million pounds from people over the summer and tattle was the only place they could connect without being blocked. The media picked up on it and there's been lots of coverage, but more importantly, experts have stepped in, helping victims of the scam claim back through court as well as cutting off some of the brand partnerships that she used to get credibility to help with the scam. So not all bad.

Of course you won't get anyone being horrible to you on tattle, you're all united in being horrible to other people. If you have anything remotely positive to say you get banned.
I've seen comments on the Hinch thread saying she doesn't love her son, he hates her, putting him in a baby grow that was a tiny bit small was tantamount to child abuse. Others suggesting he was stimming so must be autistic. The comments about her current pregnancy are awful. I thought they were all children/teens when I first had a read as it was all so childish but there are women with grown up children on there!

Messaging piers local council to say he's broken a lock down rule

Tbf the DM ran an article about this & he received a lot of abuse in the comments. I'm sure people will claim, Ive heard presenters say viewers complain about their clothes.

There was an IG "boss babe" influencer, Sarah Akwisombe, who scammed nearly a million pounds from people

My friend who is a teacher & is the online safety lead (something like that) teaching it to tweens/teens. She actually uses tattle & similar to research stuff because one aspect of online safety is teaching kids that influencers are not your friends, only there to make money from you & that image presented on SM is often not reality.

I've never heard of tattle life

@squeezeapplesmakejuice

I've never heard of tattle life

Don't think I'm missing much though

I haven't really read it, just had a look at celeb section and there's a thread on PH and MM which is far too vicious, that wouldn't happen here.

I'm not really into influencers so that would go over my head. I'll have a read of the rest.

I agree the Sarah Akwisombe thread, whilst not perfect, was and is important in helping women getting back their money. This woman is now setting up a YouTube channel for her coaching scam and will be trying to do it again. Tattle was the only place her former clients could come together, after being silenced and blocked on other platforms.

If they don't want the minutiae of their lives dissected don't post it all over the gram!

But it’s so much more than that. Fair enough, say you find the fact that somebody does loads of undeclared ads corrupt and manipulative. Whatever. But they go so much further than that about such young women. DD showed me a thread about one of her favourite Youtubers who is in her late teens. Grown women were calling her things like ‘so ugly it makes me sick’, saying ‘I bet she fucking stinks she’s so disgusting’, ‘her face and nose is so fat she looks like a pig.’

Anyone who says this is just a one off and the vast majority of posters wouldn’t do that are kidding themselves. After DD showed me I had a scroll through the pages of a few other big Youtubers. All were being called fat, ugly, smelly, ‘trampy’, with incredibly descriptive results referring to specific parts of their body. One girl had shared a photo of her pedicure on her instagram story and her feet were being called sickening, fat, disgusting etc.

I actually can’t look on there since then or think about it too much because it freaks me out and makes me sad. I’d understand if these girls had committed serious violent crimes but as a PP said, they’re just a bit annoying and post too many ads. If you want to make Youtubers answer for their abuse of the ad system, fair enough keep it factual and do that. But don’t make up horrible nicknames for their children or insult their breasts in horrific detail or spend hours looking for their personal info on the internet.

I don't actually like mumsnet. Infact I think today is the day I work out how to unsubscribe from the emails. I'm not technologically minded.

Every time I spend any time on here I wish I hadn't bothered. When I've finished reading threads I always conclude that while I've always thought most people are actually decent, mumsnet has exposed to me tto the fact that actually, judging by the posts and responses on here (not necessarily individual posters but also situations about friends/family/neighbours/colleagues) then it seems that most people are nasty little cunts who I would have nothing to do with in RL.

I find mumsnet a depressing reminder of the people my children, who it seems I've mistakenly brought up to be nice, will have to battle with their whole lives.

Yep, it's definite. I dislike people very much and it was my limited time on mumsnet rather than a lifetime of experience that has made me feel like this

I'm off, yer fuckers!

@Mumsn0t Have you considered posting in flouncer's corner? Keeps your flounce for posterity, so you can find it again easily when you return to our little viper nest.

Have a nice day.

The alcoholism thread on tattle is amazing, full of supportive posters really trying to help each other and sharing experiences.
It’s a wonderful support if you have a family member or friend struggling.

@Jobconfused

I agree the Sarah Akwisombe thread, whilst not perfect, was and is important in helping women getting back their money. This woman is now setting up a YouTube channel for her coaching scam and will be trying to do it again. Tattle was the only place her former clients could come together, after being silenced and blocked on other platforms.

And that's where Tattle can be so good. Yes there's lots of bitchy threads, but that one has been a real force for good as it has helped people get money back, cut off her subsequent activities and also put people in touch with investigative journalists who have done a great job covering the story, hopefully warning off other women from her in the future.

Totally agree about the Sarah Akwisombe thread on tattle , it was that thread that made people sit up and notice what was going on with regards of a person who had barely run a business in her life charging people for business coaching while having no intention of delivering content . There was no other platform for people to voice their concerns prior to that . Once exposed on tattle her air of credibility completely dissolved and it’s helped people try get their money back . I doubt she will be able to scam anyone ever again after this . Instagram is a unregulated harmful thing in some ways and I think tattle calls it out in that way. The woman is trying to start it all up again and tattle is keeping tabs on that . It’s interesting stuff .

l have no time for the threads like mrs hinch .. tearing how influencers look or their parenting down but it has shone a light on some harmful practices and stopped a lot of bullshit in its tracks. .

The Fleur De Force situation probably wouldn’t have come to light without Tattle:

They are calling out lots of celebs and influencers for going on holiday over Christmas and lying about it.
I don’t think there is anything ‘unkind’ about that.

@Beefcurtains79 100%

Why should they be exempt from the rules?

@Frownette

I haven't really read it, just had a look at celeb section and there's a thread on PH and MM which is far too vicious, that wouldn't happen here.

I'm not really into influencers so that would go over my head. I'll have a read of the rest.

It DID happen here...the threads here were horrible.

I think MNHQ have stepped in and banned them now. Tattle hasn't but you don't need to read or post on those threads. Food and Drink thread there is lovely, plenty of nice threads.

@Beefcurtains79

They are calling out lots of celebs and influencers for going on holiday over Christmas and lying about it. I don’t think there is anything ‘unkind’ about that.

I would say it depends on the thread. I find the way some instagrammers are targeted for their looks really disturbing.

Rebecca Lamb gets called a fat bitch on a daily basis she had a great figure and would be around a size 10-12. She gets some really savage comments.

Mrs Hinch is a saleswoman and completely knows how to work her audience. I applaud all those who call her out on her poor adherence to advertisement standards. The other side of the coin is the personal attacks she receives about herself and her family.

*Her son's physical development has been pulled apart with some 'experts' claiming he has undiagnosed autism or other developmental issues.
*Being told her son clearly doesn't love her and he has complete distain in his eyes
*Mocking at Jamie having a nose job, constant references to his weight and appearance.

• The constant comparisons to Stacey Soloman and trying to figure out ways that Stacey has 'thrown shade'. While not the nastiness it is so petty.

It doesn't stay on tattle either. There are lots of people who proudly post the things they have sent to her directly.

@Whiskyinajar I didn't see those ones on MN. I remember a thread quite recently but it was more about the podcasts they put out, I think. Can't remember now!

Food & drink on tattle sounds good