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AIBU reducing Grandparents' care 1x day a week whilst I'm on mat leave?

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LadyLouOf2 · 06/01/2021 09:13

My parents absolutely dote on my kids. I feel bad to say that it's almost suffocating because they support us so much but they literally cannot go more than a few days without seeing them. My DD (aged 2.5) has spent one night a week there since she was 3-4 weeks old (I have always felt obliged to 'share' her). My Dad (her grandfather) runs a business and is often very stressed, Mum always likes to tell me that she's the only thing that brings him joy etc.

Anyway I'm currently on mat leave with DS (5 months old). My DH and I have had a bit of a disagreement with my parents over various things since I've been on mat leave so what used to be a very, very close bond (I used to call Mum 10+ times a day!) is now very strained and awkward, I don't think it'll get better any time soon as too much has happened (too much to explain). I still give them DD each week on the usual days that she would go there when I worked, and she stays overnight every Monday as she used to do. If I stopped that, and when I stopped her going there at the weekend the other week (because we simply enjoyed having her at home), I was told we were using her as a pawn sigh).

Anyway, I've also kept her at nursery whilst on mat leave as it's good for her development and she's very shy so it helps her come out of her shell. She does nursery 2x days a week 9am-3pm. My Mum then will have her 2 days a week (one of those being overnight). My DD absolutely LOVES going there as her cousin is also there (who is 6 months her junior). She breaks her heart when she leaves etc etc.

The thing is, not only do I feel massive Mum guilt, but the 4 days a week DD is not with me, I feel quite lonely at home with DS. Don't get me wrong, I realise how lucky I am to have the option of some quality time just me and the baby and that my parents are so keen to have her and I'm not ungrateful for that, but I really hate that Monday to Thursday I don't really see DD and I think I'll regret it when I go back to work. In the first few months of mat leave, I gave myself various tasks to keep busy when she was away (decorated a few rooms; I did all my Xmas shopping etc). But now I have v little to do and am at a bit of a loose end without her. Ordinarily, before things became strained, I'd have gone over to Mum's one of the 2 days she's there and would've spent the day with them (which is what my sis-in-law does) but I don't feel comfortable doing that now given the relationship .

I want to say to Mum that I really hate being without her 4 days a week and that whilst I'm not going to 'take away' their 2 days, I do want to see her more. I want to say that she can still come over one day a week on her own and stay overnight, but that the second day each week Mum can essentially 'share' her with me. Mum can come over to ours, meet us somewhere etc to spend time with her. I know she won't like that as (1) they like to have free reign at their house, Dad doesn't fully relax unless he's at home on his own with them and (b) they also often have my brother's child on that second day who has an annoyingly strict routine and has to take his naps 12-3 each day (and only in a cot) so they are restricted as to what they can do around those times (I live 45 min drive away from Mum so it'd be a bit of a faff for her to get over here around that time). I can see now they'll essentially phrase it as that I'm 'taking her away' from them. I can also see that they'll be unnecessarily awkward then when I go back to work in 5 - 6 months or so).

I'd really appreciate some views please before I raise it...

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PandaBabyJuly · 06/01/2021 09:17

My mum is like this; I posted recently about her behaviour and was told she was overstepping.

Since then I have pulled back; I use to go there 3 x a week - now I only go once a week and even then only for a few hours.
Do what you think is best for you and your child: after all she is your child and they are only little for a short time; enjoy your maternity leave with your children Smile

CassandraBarrett · 06/01/2021 09:19

She's your child. So do what works for you

5zeds · 06/01/2021 09:20

She’s not a doll to be “shared” so I wouldn’t be engaging in those ideas. Your dad doesn’t need a baby at home by themselves to relax. He’s an adult and she ISNT his therapy. Perhaps she’s “shy” because she needs a break from this set up? Perhaps she’s just shy? I’d just stop it all together because it sounds horrible.

CrotchBurn · 06/01/2021 09:22

Hello??! This is your child! Do what you want! Why cant you have her cousin over to yours to hang out with?

SleepingStandingUp · 06/01/2021 09:24

When you go back to work in 6 months will you be expecting them to have th both?

gassylady · 06/01/2021 09:25

Gosh that does sound suffocating I think I’d be pulling back to at most one day and overnight especially if you’ve had a falling out so bad. They are the ones using your daughter as a pawn.
I have to say I would be considering stopping the childcare aspect with her totally and just visit with the occasional sleepover maybe.

CupOfTeaAlonePlease · 06/01/2021 09:25

I'm not surprised you feel suffocated.

She's your daughter. You need to reset the dynamics here. It's unfortunate that your relationship is strained but it might also be an opportunity to build a new relationship with stronger boundaries

CrotchBurn · 06/01/2021 09:27

By the way, is your husband not completely pissed off about this? Because if my in laws were like this and my partner pandered to it I would be seriously fed up

Brunt0n · 06/01/2021 09:27

You have a really weird relationship with your mum. You used to call her 10 times a day? Cut the umbilical cord! Beyond weird you’ve had kids just to hand them over to someone else

PinkPurpleOrangeBrownBlue · 06/01/2021 09:29

Sorry but why were you calling your mum 10 times a day? That’s not normal OP. I think you need to look carefully at the relationship you have with your parents and make a decision which is in the best interests of both you and your children (and probably your relationship with your husband I imagine). This seems hideously co-dependent.

frazzledasarock · 06/01/2021 09:30

Why on earth are you sending your child to your parents when you want to have her at home with you?

Keep her home she also needs a relationship with you her mother and her new baby brother.

My DD's haven't seen there nana except a couple of times since the first lockdown (she's high risk and shielding before anyone gets the wrong idea) and they still have a loving relationship with her and miss her and look forward to seeing her when they'll be able to.

Before you know it your DD will be in school and you will have missed out on the opportunity to spend time with her yourself.

If they have her four days a week when do you get to see her and have fun times with her?

When you go back to work, think about putting your DD into full time nursery or a childminder nearer to you, I'd rather that than have family do childcare with a world of guilt attached to it.

LadyLouOf2 · 06/01/2021 09:30

@CrotchBurn because his parents are a bit weird. Wouldn't let him come here without them (or my Mum/Dad) also being there too. Bizarre. I offered a million times when my sis-in-law was stressed with work to take him for them and it was always "ah thanks I'll bear that in mind" and never took me up on it. Whenever he comes over, he is accompanied by them, but he's 2 and has had zero interaction with others apart from both sets of grandparents and my daughter.

@PandaBabyJuly thanks it's good to know I'm not the only one in this situation. I just can't deal with the way they'll phrase it to family as "well M has been taken off us on Wednesdays now..." type thing.

@SleepingStandingUp yes I will expect the arrangement to go back to normal when I go back to work.... is it that unreasonable to want to have them more myself now that I'm off though!? I'm not taking her away from them completely, just asking can we all have her together one day a week (which I know they won't take me up on and they'll sulk about)

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CupOfTeaAlonePlease · 06/01/2021 09:30

Sending your 3 week old baby away overnight is atypical. Were you very young when she was born? Were you comfortable with that at the time?

Like PPs I would be very interested to hear what your partner thinks about your parents.

Google an 'enmeshed' relationship and see if you relate to any of it.

Can you elaborate on the fracture in your relationship with your parents? Was it anything to do with you setting boundaries they didn't like? Or refusing to comply with their expectations?

Beautiful3 · 06/01/2021 09:31

4 days a week!!! That's insane. This is YOUR child! Yes send her for a day and night but no longer, that's insane!

Brunt0n · 06/01/2021 09:32

Oh and you need to pay for childcare when you return to work. This isn’t going to work.

Dizzy1234 · 06/01/2021 09:32

She's your child, your parents are hugely overstepping boundaries.
You don't need to share your child, she's yours, your parents have raised their children they don't get to raise your children too.
It's a huge red flag to me that your mum wants full rein when she has your DD, basically she wants complete control without you interfering.
I would put a stop to this arrangement now before your DD is totally used to spending 2 days and a night there, let her go one day and no overnights.
Why does she need to be there 2 days and overnight when you're sat at home missing her, because your DM says so, no chance.
You need to be firm, tell them what you said here that you want to spend time with her before you return to work and you don't see her for 4 days and you miss her.
She's your child, be firm.
If they want to play silly buggers with childcare when you return to work let them, they'll cave in, don't give in to threats or blackmail, you can get another day at nursery, plus you DD will be going to school soon.
Good luck OP, nip this in the bud now 💐

PandaBabyJuly · 06/01/2021 09:33

@LadyLouOf2 oh of course they will! My mum did the same - she took away our time: she's selfish.

I just stare at them blankly and say "is she your child; no, good glad we cleared that up" when other family members have said something. Grin it's far from ideal but you have to put the boundaries in otherwise the situation you have now will continue - it was hard for me to do at first but now I'm happy with how it is

CrotchBurn · 06/01/2021 09:33

I'm not taking her away from them completely

But....you should be? One overnight stay a week is more than enough for a close relationship.

Why are you acting as if they are owed time with her?

It's a really strange dynamic.

twinklespells · 06/01/2021 09:33

Isn't this the kind of situation where your parents could potentially get access to your daughter if you cut contact completely, as they've been a strong part of her life for so long?

No way I'd let anyone have that much time with my child, I'd miss her way too much. When you're working and it's childcare it's different. But no one will be having her overnight. We don't need grandparents for childcare though. If you do I can see you would find it hard to balance but I'd still cut my nose off to spite my face I think.

Don't regret this when your DD is 14 and spends all her time in her bedroom away from you guys.

Perfect28 · 06/01/2021 09:34

They are taking her away from you! She's your daughter. I'm quite shocked she stayed overnight so early, was that apart from you or did you stay too?

harrietm1987 · 06/01/2021 09:35

I think you just need to explain to them (and any family who care) that it’s nothing to do with them and you’re not using her as a pawn but that you just want to spend time with her yourself, which is true! And if they don’t believe you who cares. You need to put yourself first here. If they react badly then you know you will have to find alternative arrangements when you go back to work.

SendMeHome · 06/01/2021 09:35

This seems hideously co-dependent.

This...

yes I will expect the arrangement to go back to normal when I go back to work....

But yes, that’s a factor here. It shouldn’t be, but somehow this has become a weird battle over your daughter... honestly I’d be finding a way to do childcare without relying on your parents, and then visiting with your daughter when it suits - once a week or a fortnight or whatever.

Your relationship with your parents sounds dysfunctional, and I’d personally be worried about how they’ll cope when there isn’t a young child around for them to look after, or when your DD decides she doesn’t want to go there without mummy...

If you all had normal relationships, it’d be fair enough and probably expected for you to have her more now that you’re home. The fact that you’re entertaining a weird power struggle over your daughter says it all, really... she’s your daughter. Her wider family are important but you’re her mum.

I can’t see how you unravel this and build normal family bonds for you all if you want her to be there for childcare, though. I don’t think your relationship is in the right place for that.

harrietm1987 · 06/01/2021 09:37

@Beautiful3

4 days a week!!! That's insane. This is YOUR child! Yes send her for a day and night but no longer, that's insane!
I think she’s in nursery 2 days and grandparents 2 days? Still a bit much given the relationship though!
LadyLouOf2 · 06/01/2021 09:37

Thank you everyone, I needed to hear this and that I'm not being a total witch taking back some control.

@BruntOn and @PinkPurpleOrangeBrownBlue okay 10 times prob an exagguration but we'd text heaps all day and would speak prob 2-3 times at least, even if just a hi what you up to, how are things over there type of thing. Mum was my best friend before all this crap!

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Winterwoollies · 06/01/2021 09:37

Your poor husband. I thought my inlaws were bad. Suffocating sounds like an understatement.

You should not be feeling guilty for not ‘sharing’ your child with your overbearing parents. Do what you want and if they accuse you of playing games, then tell them to get fucked. Ideally though, you need to take ownership of this situation and reestablish your relationship with your parents on a much more healthy level. If they’re going to throw their toys out of the pram because you’re not sharing your daughter with them, then that is a reason to back away.

Are you and they quite young?

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