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BIL Drama - AIBU or is he?

196 replies

BILdrama · 29/11/2020 23:36

NC for this as it would be outing.

In March this year, just before the lockdown, we had a family gathering at my Mums with my two sisters and our partners. We had been talking about Coronavirus a lot in our family group chat and had been unsure whether to meet but we all specifically said that we had no symptoms, no temperatures, we didn’t know what would happen with a lockdown and thought this might be the last chance to see each other for who knows how long so we went ahead with it.

When we got there, as we were eating my BIL started coughing. My other BIL said “it’s not coronavirus is it” to which he replied “yes it is”.

He has a very dry sense of humour and can be very over dramatic so I thought he was joking at first but repeated questioning to him and my sister from all of us and he kept insisting he’d had it, my mum said no it was just a cough and he was just joking and my sister looked embarrassed but just shrugged.

So me and DH got up and left. I’m sure he hadn’t had it, I don’t know if he was trying to be funny or just being over dramatic but at the time he kept saying he didn’t believe in the virus anyway and it was all just a media scaremongering/government conspiracy theory etc.

I was really upset, my mental health at the time was terrible, I was terrified of what would happen with the virus and I had just started a couple of days before some medication to help, but I was upset that this would have been the last chance to see my mum in who knows how long and he’d ruined it. My husband text him and said that he didn’t think it was funny, that he’d acted like a “bellend” and it wasn’t right.

Anyway over the next couple of months, he refused to talk to any of the family, wouldn’t join in the zoom quizzes etc. I sent my sisters and BILs all a little care package at Easter and I made a word search of family words but my printer missed off his name and my other sisters (not his partner) and it started an argument back up that I’d left him out (I hadn’t, my sisters was missing too, it was an accident and I explained as much as soon as I realised) and I’d put his name on other things.

My birthday was a couple of days after we were allowed outdoor gatherings so I invited everyone for a barbecue but he didn’t come. We lost my Dad a few years ago and it would have been his 60th birthday the following month, we’d planned a big party in his honour but obviously had to cancel it but we were going to have a small barbecue again instead. We found out he wasn’t coming to that either so after speaking to my mum who encouraged us, my husband and I went to their house to talk to him and try and clear the air.

We said we wanted to sort things out, that we missed speaking to him and seeing him. That as far as we were concerned we’re family and it was water under the bridge and could we not sort things out and draw a line under it and move on. However he said that he didn’t want to speak to us again, he thought we were childish, he hadn’t done anything wrong and that he didn’t want anything to do with us Anymore because with him you have one chance and once it’s gone that’s it. I tried to explain that looking back I knew I had overreacted but that I just hadn’t been well mentally and my DH had just been sticking up for me but that we knew it was an overreaction and if we could go back and change it we would, but he still said he didn’t want anything to do with us anymore.

That was in July and we haven’t seen him since, I sent him a card and present for his birthday which he text me and said thank you for. He fell out with everyone in the family initially but will now go to family things if we aren’t there.

I text my sister after Boris announced the Christmas rule relaxation and said that as far as we were concerned we were over everything that had happened and we hoped that he would come to things over Christmas that we would be at, that we wouldn’t say anything about what had happened and she replied “thank you”.

The thing is, it still really upsets me and it’s causing such an issue for Christmas now. It was supposed to be our turn having people round on Christmas Eve but my family want me to let my other sister do it so he will come as he “doesn’t feel ready to see us yet“. We are all having Christmas dinner seperately, no ones said it but I’m sure it’s because of the situation. I feel like my Mum is taking my other sisters side, saying how hard things are for her, which I’m sure they are, I know she’s stuck in the middle.

But it’s been really upsetting for me too. I hate the fact that there is so much hostility, I feel like it was a stupid little argument/falling out that we both are at blame for happening, he was unreasonable for saying he had COVID/coming to a party if he genuinely thought he had had it and we were unreasonable to walk out/say he was being a bellend. It seems so silly looking back and I just truly can’t understand why he won’t just let it go.

My sister/his partner says she won’t force him to make up with us or come to things if he doesn’t want to as we’re not his family and it’s up to him, but I always thought of him as part of the family. I thought we were friends even, we would go out for meals etc together as a foursome. Even if he doesn’t want to be friends I would understand that but surely he can be at things we’re at and just be civil?

I’m sorry this was so long. AIBU or should he be able to move on from this by now?

OP posts:
LouiseTrees · 29/11/2020 23:43

He does sound exactly what your DH called him. He is being unreasonable. Hope he does get it. Would teach him right. There’s no reason however your sister shouldn’t be allowed to come on her own etc. Is he controlling of her?

ThatsAllFolks · 29/11/2020 23:43

He is a bellend. U have bent over backwards to fix it. Continue to be open but move on. U have been great to continue to try and I.hope it works out

ThatsAllFolks · 29/11/2020 23:49

Personally I would never forget this even when he comes down from his pedestal and I would make a model of him out of blutac or babybel wax and stick paperclips in it . V satisfying 😂😂😂

BILdrama · 29/11/2020 23:50

@LouiseTrees my sister does come to things without him but I do understand that at Christmas she would put him first, I wouldn’t leave DH on his own on Christmas Eve for example. I do understand that she is a bit stuck in the middle but I also think if DH was acting like this I’d be insisting he sorted it out?

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FedUpAtHomeTroels · 29/11/2020 23:51

What an arse.
So your whole family would rather move Christmas eve to another house, does that mean you aren't invited so he can be there?
He needs a talking to. He made a horrible joke and should have known people would be very sensitive as there's a pandemic going on. He's too bloody minded to accept his mistake and has chosen this as the hill he wants to die on. If he keeps it all up he may well be trying to make out that it is you who are wrong, he is right and he is the wounded party in all this. What a dick.

Dobbyismyfavourite · 29/11/2020 23:59

Your DH is right your BIL is a bellend. To be honest even if it was meant as a 'joke' your BIL should have jumped in once he realised you believed him. I also don't know why the rest of your family are appeasing him.

Take a step back and continue to see your DM and your other sister and let the twatty BIL and sister do their own thing.

NewbieManager · 30/11/2020 00:00

He’s being unreasonable, I’d be annoyed he skipped the event honouring your late father

Just be civil and carry on: this is his issue bit yours

GoldfishParade · 30/11/2020 00:04

I don't understand. He was messing around with a (granted, not very funny) joke about having covid and your response is to text him calling him a bellend? Maybe lighten up?

EnjoyingTheSilence · 30/11/2020 00:06

Stop apologising to him. He’s a twat. Carry on as you are, invite him to family things if you want to, he can decide if he wants to go or not but stop apologising

BluebellsGreenbells · 30/11/2020 00:06

He’s made up his mind. He’s told you where he stands. By asking you are only punishing yourselves. His choice not to go.

Doesn’t mean you have to stay home.

PickAChew · 30/11/2020 00:06

How does any of this fit in with 3 households, anyhow?

katy1213 · 30/11/2020 00:09

What a twat. I feel sorry for your sister - but if you never see him again, he's no great loss, is he? Stop running around trying to appease him.

Cantdoitallperfectly · 30/11/2020 00:11

He’s being very unreasonable, you’ve apologised and made the effort to meet him to try and sort it out. I feel for your sister who’s caught in the middle. He sounds like really hard work.

JennyWoodentop · 30/11/2020 00:12

You are being unreasonable in the sense that you seem to be going out of your way to appease him - keep on contacting him to make things up, inviting him to things, sending him a birthday present - why? This is all of his doing. If he actually did have COVID-19 or thought he did, he was irresponsible & putting everyone at risk and if he knew he didn't have it it was a"joke" in very poor taste & not at all funny. You should be glad he doesn't want anything to do with you & that you no longer have to put up with such an idiot. I feel sorry for your sister being stuck with him, but that's her choice I assume.

NoSquirrels · 30/11/2020 00:32

He sounds like a wanker,

he said that he didn’t want to speak to us again, he thought we were childish, he hadn’t done anything wrong and that he didn’t want anything to do with us Anymore because with him you have one chance and once it’s gone that’s it.

Oh well.

He’s a childish idiot and I’m sorry your sister married him. Stop apologising, stop accepting your ‘guilt’ - you offered an olive branch, he said he’d never ever forgive you (for a tiny overreaction) and by dwelling on it, giving it headspace and emotional energy you’re playing into his power trip.

Ignore, ignore, ignore.

nowishtofly · 30/11/2020 00:38

He's out of order. You've tried to make peace. He's not interested. Your people pleasing family are now trying to flex around his bad behaviour to accommodate him. Flex your muscles here. Invite everyone (including him) to yours on Christmas Eve as was the plan and remind them that was the plan. If your sister doesn't come, that's on her. If none of them come, it will likely make you question how much your value value you.

You could have years of this. Start as you mean to go on.

Mulhollandmagoo · 30/11/2020 00:39

Well, he sounds like quite a peach Hmm the 'joke' he made was inappropriate and made in very poor taste. I'd be horrified if my husband treated my sister than way, sink imagine the distance from your sister is more because she's embarrassed rather than on his side as such.

I think your mum is a little out of line for moving the Christmas Eve dinner too, it comes across as if she's picked a side! Is you having Christmas with just your immediate family or your in law's an option this year? Just distance yourself from it and relax and enjoy Christmas, rather than feel uneasy around your BIL, I imagine he'd go out if his way to make it an unbearable event for you

OrigamiOwl · 30/11/2020 00:39

I can see both sides.

He made a joke which wasn't overly funny. That's not appropriate. Your DH texted him to call him a bellend. That's not appropriate either.
I can see why he would see bring left off the wordsearch as a snub, considering the last contact you'd had ended with him being called a bellend.

You can't help how others react to things, they are entitled to their own feelings. You can only control how you react to things.

nowishtofly · 30/11/2020 00:39

Meant to write 'your family value you' sorry!

Takethereigns · 30/11/2020 00:41

@PickAChew I would imagine the mother is in a bubble with one of the sisters households. If not the OP hasn’t asked our opinion about them potentially ignoring covid rules.

OP, you are not being unreasonable to want to try and sort things, but you have tried. If you keep trying you will only keep being disappointed.

Regarding Christmas plans, are you being asked to not attend the Christmas Eve gathering to placate the BIL. If so that’s dreadful.

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 30/11/2020 00:43

Jesus. He's a childish bellend!!

FGS stop apologising and acting like you were in the wrong you weren't. He was being a complete dick at the time & ever since.

Just keep inviting your sister & bellend can do what the hell he likes.

Keep Christmas at yours, if they don't come it keeps you within the permitted Christmas bubble rules too!

If you normally buy them Christmas presents, I'd get him a personalised mug with bellend on it!!

NONE of this is your fault.

SummerTimeSunshine · 30/11/2020 00:50

As a self proclaimed bellend he is not worthy of all this fuss/multiple apologies.

Ignore.

Don’t waste anymore time on this idiot.

StrippedFridge · 30/11/2020 00:55

Stop apologising. It makes you look weak and him special. He does not deserve your apologies. You deserve apologies from him. Stop giving the strop attention.

SapphireSeptember · 30/11/2020 01:02

People who make jokes about having Covid are nobbers, my mental health was shit at the start of this because I was terrified, no one knew how bad it was going to be, and if I'd had someone coughing and saying they had it around me I'd have done more than call them a bellend. Hmm
You've tried to apologise, but your BIL is having too much fun playing the victim, so I'd leave him to it. Let him stew in his own juices and ignore him.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 30/11/2020 01:08

Have to admit I am on team BIL here.

Honestly you overreacted and he doesn’t want to hang out with you...go figure. How many posts do we see here on the same topic.

You can’t just wish away bad feeling at the holiday because it’s inconvenient for you.