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BIL Drama - AIBU or is he?

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BILdrama · 29/11/2020 23:36

NC for this as it would be outing.

In March this year, just before the lockdown, we had a family gathering at my Mums with my two sisters and our partners. We had been talking about Coronavirus a lot in our family group chat and had been unsure whether to meet but we all specifically said that we had no symptoms, no temperatures, we didn’t know what would happen with a lockdown and thought this might be the last chance to see each other for who knows how long so we went ahead with it.

When we got there, as we were eating my BIL started coughing. My other BIL said “it’s not coronavirus is it” to which he replied “yes it is”.

He has a very dry sense of humour and can be very over dramatic so I thought he was joking at first but repeated questioning to him and my sister from all of us and he kept insisting he’d had it, my mum said no it was just a cough and he was just joking and my sister looked embarrassed but just shrugged.

So me and DH got up and left. I’m sure he hadn’t had it, I don’t know if he was trying to be funny or just being over dramatic but at the time he kept saying he didn’t believe in the virus anyway and it was all just a media scaremongering/government conspiracy theory etc.

I was really upset, my mental health at the time was terrible, I was terrified of what would happen with the virus and I had just started a couple of days before some medication to help, but I was upset that this would have been the last chance to see my mum in who knows how long and he’d ruined it. My husband text him and said that he didn’t think it was funny, that he’d acted like a “bellend” and it wasn’t right.

Anyway over the next couple of months, he refused to talk to any of the family, wouldn’t join in the zoom quizzes etc. I sent my sisters and BILs all a little care package at Easter and I made a word search of family words but my printer missed off his name and my other sisters (not his partner) and it started an argument back up that I’d left him out (I hadn’t, my sisters was missing too, it was an accident and I explained as much as soon as I realised) and I’d put his name on other things.

My birthday was a couple of days after we were allowed outdoor gatherings so I invited everyone for a barbecue but he didn’t come. We lost my Dad a few years ago and it would have been his 60th birthday the following month, we’d planned a big party in his honour but obviously had to cancel it but we were going to have a small barbecue again instead. We found out he wasn’t coming to that either so after speaking to my mum who encouraged us, my husband and I went to their house to talk to him and try and clear the air.

We said we wanted to sort things out, that we missed speaking to him and seeing him. That as far as we were concerned we’re family and it was water under the bridge and could we not sort things out and draw a line under it and move on. However he said that he didn’t want to speak to us again, he thought we were childish, he hadn’t done anything wrong and that he didn’t want anything to do with us Anymore because with him you have one chance and once it’s gone that’s it. I tried to explain that looking back I knew I had overreacted but that I just hadn’t been well mentally and my DH had just been sticking up for me but that we knew it was an overreaction and if we could go back and change it we would, but he still said he didn’t want anything to do with us anymore.

That was in July and we haven’t seen him since, I sent him a card and present for his birthday which he text me and said thank you for. He fell out with everyone in the family initially but will now go to family things if we aren’t there.

I text my sister after Boris announced the Christmas rule relaxation and said that as far as we were concerned we were over everything that had happened and we hoped that he would come to things over Christmas that we would be at, that we wouldn’t say anything about what had happened and she replied “thank you”.

The thing is, it still really upsets me and it’s causing such an issue for Christmas now. It was supposed to be our turn having people round on Christmas Eve but my family want me to let my other sister do it so he will come as he “doesn’t feel ready to see us yet“. We are all having Christmas dinner seperately, no ones said it but I’m sure it’s because of the situation. I feel like my Mum is taking my other sisters side, saying how hard things are for her, which I’m sure they are, I know she’s stuck in the middle.

But it’s been really upsetting for me too. I hate the fact that there is so much hostility, I feel like it was a stupid little argument/falling out that we both are at blame for happening, he was unreasonable for saying he had COVID/coming to a party if he genuinely thought he had had it and we were unreasonable to walk out/say he was being a bellend. It seems so silly looking back and I just truly can’t understand why he won’t just let it go.

My sister/his partner says she won’t force him to make up with us or come to things if he doesn’t want to as we’re not his family and it’s up to him, but I always thought of him as part of the family. I thought we were friends even, we would go out for meals etc together as a foursome. Even if he doesn’t want to be friends I would understand that but surely he can be at things we’re at and just be civil?

I’m sorry this was so long. AIBU or should he be able to move on from this by now?

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NoSquirrels · 30/11/2020 13:30

And if your other sister is OK with hosting, you can offer to share the catering with her, and help plan it at her house?

Abouttimemum · 30/11/2020 13:37

Fair play to your DH for calling him a bellend, because he is.
I’d walk out of a family party if someone turned up saying they had coronavirus and spouting shite.
You didn’t over react.

TheLadyOfShallnott · 30/11/2020 13:40

I would have bent over backwards back in the day to make him accept me again.

Not any more.

If a genuine apology cannot be accepted graciously for a misunderstanding, then he would not be worth my time or tears.

He could choose to come to mine or not but no special arrangements would be made for him. And I wouldn’t curtail my life either.

Your sister wants to get him telt.

I assume he isn’t 2.

TheLadyOfShallnott · 30/11/2020 13:44

And to be clear. There is no misunderstanding on the fact he is a bellend.

Veterinari · 30/11/2020 13:58

He's a childish bellend.

He played on your anxieties, refuses to accept an apology and is pouting and sulking.

I'd be clear with your family that he was the one in the wrong and ruined your last pre-lockdown family get together and every one since, but despite this you've forgiven him and even apologised and made efforts to build bridges whilst he's sulked and insisted on ruining family occasions by holding a grudge over a situation that he actually created.

Make it clear that he is responsible for his behaviour and choices, not you.

Veterinari · 30/11/2020 14:02

I'm in two minds over it. Part of me wants to stick my heels in and say yes we are. He's invited, he can come and I would be fine with him. If he doesn't that's his choice and we shouldn't pander to him. I've already planned a few things like a menu and bought some drinks.

Yes do this. Stop pandering to him. You evidently can't please him so cut your losses and please yourself!

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 30/11/2020 14:14

If you want to do it at yours then do it at yours...all this drama is just feeding his over inflated sense of self importance.

It's very telling that he has no other friends and family as he has fallen out with them all. It sounds like he thrives on playing the victim. Just leave him to it. He does not sound like a nice person.

Also...not allowing eggs in the house because he doesn't like them is controlling and weird unless he is genuinely phobic about the site of them.

TheLadyOfShallnott · 30/11/2020 14:25

If he continues to be an arse, I would be having an egg festival for every gathering.

Quiche. Scotch egg. Devilled eggs. Pork pie and egg. Spanish omelette. Hard boiled. Soft boiled with soldiers. Make yer own Mayo. Eggy bread. The lot.

My inner b’stard is 2 and a half.

BloggersBlog · 30/11/2020 14:30

DO NOT change your plans!! Why would you just to ingratiate yourself with a bellend? If you do then this wont end, he will carry on wielding power.

I bet he wont turn up at your other sisters anyway if you did change it. He would have a strop and want to "punish" you all. Or would turn up and sit there with a face like a slapped arse.

WhereYouLeftIt · 30/11/2020 15:02

''The thing is, it still really upsets me and it’s causing such an issue for Christmas now. It was supposed to be our turn having people round on Christmas Eve but my family want me to let my other sister do it so he will come as he “doesn’t feel ready to see us yet“. We are all having Christmas dinner seperately, no ones said it but I’m sure it’s because of the situation. I feel like my Mum is taking my other sisters side, saying how hard things are for her, which I’m sure they are, I know she’s stuck in the middle.''

“Doesn’t feel ready to see us yet“ - pfft! My arse. What he doesn't feel ready for is not being the centre of attention. If you accede to this, your entire family are effectively putting your bellend BIL in charge of them. And of you. Do not hand him this power.

''He doesn't actually have a lot of people in his life, no friends or family, only my sister, as he has fallen out with them over time. He always paints himself as the victim in those situations and I believed him and felt sorry for him but I'm wondering now about his version of those events.''
Why am I not surprised at this?

AcrossthePond55 · 30/11/2020 15:24

I'd amend NoSquirrels response to "Totally happy to host ! But equally happy to go to X's if that's better for everyone".

Put the decision in the lap of the rest of the family, take yourself out of BiL's 'power struggle'.

LemonBreeland · 30/11/2020 15:33

I agree with those saying you should still host Christmas Eve. If he doesn't want to come that's his problem. It's your turn, go ahead as normal.

billy1966 · 30/11/2020 15:42

Definitely do NOT allow him to change your plans.
Issue the invite to everyone.

He needs to get over himself or stay at home.

Stop giving him this power over your family.

He sounds so awful.

lemonsquashie · 30/11/2020 16:33

It sounds like he's trying to drive a wedge between his partner and her family

Whatever was said, he should grow up for the sake of peace and harmony and his partner

Yerroblemom1923 · 30/11/2020 19:01

What Ironingontheceiling said. Seriously overly invested in family shit. And this is what happens. Just do you're own thing with your immediate family ie no sisters/brothers/outlaws

Goldensnitchy · 02/12/2020 19:02

What a drama queen wanker he is. I bet he is controlling at home. Don’t apologise again and stick up at yourself.

Goldensnitchy · 02/12/2020 19:02

For!

PullTheBricksDown · 02/12/2020 19:10

I hope you've said 'yes, we are, all welcome'. Stop pandering as pp said. You'd have more chance he will stop all this if you don't run after him any more. While you are doing that there's no incentive for him to pack it in, because he's got you running after him.

knittingaddict · 02/12/2020 19:11

with him you have one chance and once it’s gone that’s it

People who say things like this are such dicks. It's all you need to know.

YoniAndGuy · 02/12/2020 19:15

Nope, you host it.

I think the time has come to send the message that you have pandered to this absolute bellend quite enough, and you're now going to continue with your life exactly as if there is not a problem any more. Which there shouldn't be, because you have apologised, even though you really shouldn't have had to.

Do not change your behaviour for him any more. Stop thinking about him.

If he doesn't come... that will actually be the best thing of all. Because Ihe will then look petty.

Conkergame · 02/12/2020 21:06

I don’t feel sorry for the sister, she’s enabling this ridiculous behaviour! If my DH acted like this towards my family I’d kick him to the curb! And he’d do the same to me if I was so rude to his family.

Family first! Why is your sis putting up with this crap from him and not telling him to adult up/ leaving him?!

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