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Cummings

227 replies

Thedogscollar · 13/11/2020 12:31

Aibu to think this year is slowly improving

  1. Trump is going.
  2. Vaccine on horizon.
  3. Cummings going.
How the unelected bureaucrat was given all that power in first place is another story. Hopefully Bojo will now listen to his electorate for once.
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DGRossetti · 13/11/2020 19:13

they will all vote for Farage's reform party next election and the whole thing will go on and on forever.

I think the demographics underlying that would have changed dramatically by 2024 - 8 years after the referendum.

It would also be interesting to speculate whether so many people that feel they have to big up Brexit in public would do the same in a nice private ballot box. Although if the Reform party were to somehow crumble the Tory vote, then not a tear, no not I would shed. It would serve them right for paying the Danes in the first place.

Cornettoninja · 13/11/2020 19:13

James O’Brien’s show on LBC (I know I know but James O’Brien is at the complete opposite end of the spectrum to most of their presenters I’ve found) today was really interesting. I’d recommend giving it a listen for an interesting take on what’s going on.

user1471565182 · 13/11/2020 19:22

What the fuck are those leaving no 10 pictures all about?

VinylDetective · 13/11/2020 19:22

@Cornettoninja

James O’Brien’s show on LBC (I know I know but James O’Brien is at the complete opposite end of the spectrum to most of their presenters I’ve found) today was really interesting. I’d recommend giving it a listen for an interesting take on what’s going on.
Would you mind paraphrasing it for us? I’d really appreciate it.
user1471565182 · 13/11/2020 19:25

I can only think Johnson has done a deal with him, he gets to look tough by 'sacking' the despised prick very publically but in return he lets Cummings do something awful which tallies with the pretentious twats leninist project.

the80sweregreat · 13/11/2020 19:27

I don't think that Nigel and Dominic do get on.
I missed J O'B today. He admits that he hasn't any inside sources anymore, but he often gets things right.

user1471565182 · 13/11/2020 19:27

Hes divorced from his but hes already been cheating on Carrie (are we allowed to reveal that in public or will the stasi/courts come for me?)

user1471565182 · 13/11/2020 19:27

*his wife

the80sweregreat · 13/11/2020 19:28

The leaving pictures were very staged.
They must think we're all stupid.

KittCat · 13/11/2020 19:30

Can't help but feeling the filming of Cummings with his Pandora's box is a red herring...

PawsAndPhytoncides · 13/11/2020 19:35

He's a rat leaving a sinking ship

He's a rat that loaded up the lifeboat with all the gold he could gets his dirty little hands on. THEN set fire to the boat. THEN left when the burning boat started to sink.

I hope his chokes on a bone during his fish course on Christmas Da.

the80sweregreat · 13/11/2020 19:37

@KittCat

Can't help but feeling the filming of Cummings with his Pandora's box is a red herring...
Who knows? It's hard to piece anything together isn't it? It feels fishy and unsettling and now Carries name is involved too it makes it very curious. I've no idea. I've read a few commentators today on line and it feels like a lot of speculation going on but something isn't right.
user1471565182 · 13/11/2020 19:39

I bet theres a can of greasy Fosters and some ethnic art he bought on his gay yah in that box and nothing else.

MrsSchadenfreude · 13/11/2020 19:40

Boris will leave at the end of the year.

the80sweregreat · 13/11/2020 19:42

Ethnic art! Smile
They do look a couple who would ' invest' in art don't they? Probably best mates Sattachi or someone like that.

Officebox · 13/11/2020 19:59

Cummings left with a box rom the front door of 10 Downing Street. That is note a subtle departure; that is a statement. The photographs are quite dramatic looking!

Hmm I suspect it might have something to do with who will be in power at the White House. Boris needs to keep a good relationship with the USA. It helps that Boris himself is USA born, perhaps. If he's seen to be making changes then he may endear a few powerhouses that he wants to secure deals with.

Cummings had a lot of power, despite being unelected, but tbh I think they all seem to be of a similar attitude and that's what draws them to the conservatives. So, I'm not expecting many changes in attitude. Maybe a different approach...

Rishi Sunak may surprise everyone. The conservatives base aren't too pleased about the idea of increasing CGT but it looks like Rishi might go ahead anyway; a difficult thing to do given that it is most likely to upset conservatives the most, but he might need to make those tough choices. Capital gains tax: Rate should double, says government review

pantherrose · 13/11/2020 20:05

@speakout

Cummings is jumping ship because he knows we are about to hit an iceberg. Gives me no comfort at alll.
Yep, this.
Livingtothefull · 13/11/2020 20:14

A special adviser to the Government who was sacked on the order of Cummings has just been given a five figure payoff to avoid a tribunal claim which she would probably have won. That is public money that has been used to pay her off because of Cummings' actions. It is nice to know that at a time like this there is money available to get the Government out of a hole.

the80sweregreat · 13/11/2020 20:18

I'm not surprised that people are being paid off. The man is toxic.
Tax payers money used to bury bad news or for dodgy contracts.
Yet people will still vote Tory.

Cornettoninja · 13/11/2020 20:20

@VinylDetective - the part that stuck out to me was a fairly long discussion about the dynamics around how Cummings ended up in the position he did. The speculation was that we have a lot of very well educated people in the cabinet but not actually intelligent and they know it. Cummings had the confidence to make out he knows what he’s talking about and BJ in particular is happy to let someone else deal with the details while he plays front man.

O’Brien happily stated that he doesn’t have any inside sources but I do value his speculative opinion because he’s dealt with BJ for a long time. He’s unfortunately not much wiser than anyone else about what’s going on behind closed doors and I’m guessing will have been as surprised as anyone else Cummings ended up going today.

Cornettoninja · 13/11/2020 20:23

I should say that the Cummings discussion was the last topic so maybe half an hourish? Just in case that changes your mind about listening Smile

Tellmetruth4 · 13/11/2020 20:24

DH and I saw the dramatic pictures of him leaving with his box and burst out laughing. Probably the most staged pap stroll ever. They must think we’re all mugs.

Lululemming · 13/11/2020 20:27

Isn't it next month that Cummings is called to court in connection with the Sonia Khan sex discrimination case ? Maybe he didn't fancy another apology in the Rose Garden now it's getting a bit chilly

jcurve · 13/11/2020 20:29

They settled out of court with Sonia Khan today.

jcurve · 13/11/2020 20:32

Whatever the real story is in No. 10, I would place money on it not being Cummings leaving and Carrie winning the war. They are covering something up. Cumming’s departure is a dead cat bounce.