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so we are now arresting people NOW Shocking

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Meadow1203 · 05/11/2020 11:37

I thought this was wind up but sadly it is true. A 73 year old retired nurse has been arrested and put in handcuffs because she took her own mother out of a care home. She has not had proper contact for 9 months and her poor 97 year old mum was ailing, she wanted to bring her home to care for her. Wow just wow how have we come to this.

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Dollywilde · 05/11/2020 11:38

Source?

everybodysang · 05/11/2020 11:40

she was arrested for assault after shoving a care home worker out of the way.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/11/2020 11:42

And the home had no choice. They have a legal obligation... so the police had no choice... and they were all sent home, unarrested, uncharged!

There are other ways to do this!

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/11/2020 11:42

I have read elsewhere (can't remember where) that they do not have power of attorney for the lady. She has particular nursing needs and social services are concerned for her welfare. The rand daughter is reputed to be an anti-lock down, anti-mask protester.

I don't know the true facts of the case but things are not always what they seem.

diplodocusinermine · 05/11/2020 11:42

She was arrested for shoving a member of staff in the care home, not for trying to remover her mother. She has since been de-arrested.

seayork2020 · 05/11/2020 11:43

So what was the actual charge? Kidnap or is there more to it?

everybodysang · 05/11/2020 11:43

they need permission from a social worker in these circumstances because under a DoL order they're deemed to be unable to make decisions about their own care. Perhaps if social care wasn't so shockingly underfunded they'd have been able to properly go through official channels - I'm sure they've tried. But assaulting a care home worker is not the way to go about it.

Anarchyinateacup · 05/11/2020 11:43

Care worker. Some residents can't simply be removed from a care home for many legal and safeguarding reasons depending on the person.

Meadow1203 · 05/11/2020 11:43

Metro news, Talk Radio and many others I have seen the video with my own eyes. I know it sounds so far fetched but sadly his is not a one off.

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Saucery · 05/11/2020 11:44

We’ve always arrested people for assault, so it’s neither Wow nor Shocking.

I can understand how families feel, however, it is an awful situation and no one seems to be coming up with any strategies to manage visits.

vodkaredbullgirl · 05/11/2020 11:44

Sorry to say this but its not the homes fault, it's government fault and this dam deadly virus.

They have had months to sort something out for care homes. It has been obvious from the start that this pandemic was going to get worse in the winter months.

We as carers hate to see our residents go downhill, not been able to see family.

Dollywilde · 05/11/2020 11:44

[quote CuriousaboutSamphire]Google is your friend

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8914373/Police-ARREST-qualified-nurse-trying-97-year-old-mother-care-home.html[/quote]
OP is the one who posted the thread, it’s on her to ensure there’s a source for stories if she wants to discuss them.

Anyway, that DM link supports what @everybodysang says - that the police weren’t arresting her for taking her mum out of the home, they were responding to claims she’d assaulted someone and subsequently de arrested her after the situation was clarified.

Claims like the one in this thread title can be really damaging for people who are struggling with their mental health due to the pandemic, we all have a responsibility not to put click bait above the feelings of others right now.

Meadow1203 · 05/11/2020 11:46

If a care worker tried to stop me taking mu dad out of his home if I wanted to take him I would have shoved her too. The woman is retired nurse and can take care of her needs. Really please don not try and justify this

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Nottherealslimshady · 05/11/2020 11:46

She was arrested for assault of a care worker.
Should we all be able to take any of our relatives out of their medical care setting when it suits us? How are everybody elses relatives in that care home going to feel if she's brought covid in?
It was irresponsible and selfish.

chrislilleyswig · 05/11/2020 11:47

@Meadow1203

If a care worker tried to stop me taking mu dad out of his home if I wanted to take him I would have shoved her too. The woman is retired nurse and can take care of her needs. Really please don not try and justify this
Then you would rightly be arrested

The video isn't distressing by the way.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/11/2020 11:49

@Dollywilde but your one word response was as rude as those facebook posts "Needs gone" "Mine" etc. This is a forum for discussion, join in or don't... which reminds me of another rudeness... posts that end "Discuss"

And anyway... I wasn't disagreeing with anything everybodysang said...

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/11/2020 11:49

I saw the video on the news last night and thought she sounded a bit unhinged then, further reading confirmed it. Just because someone is a retired nurse doesn't mean she is capable of all specialities. I am a retired teacher but I couldn't teach A level Physics.

Rudolphian · 05/11/2020 11:49

@Meadow1203

If a care worker tried to stop me taking mu dad out of his home if I wanted to take him I would have shoved her too. The woman is retired nurse and can take care of her needs. Really please don not try and justify this
Theres ways of arranging to take someone home. You dont just turn up, assault people and then drive off. Her mum is in her 90's and in a Care Home for a reason. If she wanted her home they needed to go through the proper channels.
Meadow1203 · 05/11/2020 11:50

The video is appalling, what is wrong with people these days. Have you experience of dealing with an relative with Dementia and carehomes? I do in heaps

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seayork2020 · 05/11/2020 11:51

@Meadow1203

If a care worker tried to stop me taking mu dad out of his home if I wanted to take him I would have shoved her too. The woman is retired nurse and can take care of her needs. Really please don not try and justify this
If a person is in a home then surely the care home has a job to ensure the well-being and safety of that person and they are not a possession to be handled? Regardless of who the family are.

And there have been cases of relatives abusing the elderly

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/11/2020 11:51

@Meadow1203

If a care worker tried to stop me taking mu dad out of his home if I wanted to take him I would have shoved her too. The woman is retired nurse and can take care of her needs. Really please don not try and justify this
That's only one view of what happened and completely ignores the legalities involved - apart from anything else!

It needs no justifying. There are other ways to do this that do not break the law. They are lucky everyone was understanding and took no further action.

Anarchyinateacup · 05/11/2020 11:51

@Meadow1203

If a care worker tried to stop me taking mu dad out of his home if I wanted to take him I would have shoved her too. The woman is retired nurse and can take care of her needs. Really please don not try and justify this
When you visit a resident in a care home you only see a tiny part of their needs, and taking someome home ends up in them being returned to care once the full spectrum of their needs and level of care becomes clear. Care homes and staff aren't villains. There are laws around this to protect vulnerable people and a care plan etc can be put in place if it is suitable for someone to go and live with family but it takes time.
CaptainMyCaptain · 05/11/2020 11:51

@Meadow1203

The video is appalling, what is wrong with people these days. Have you experience of dealing with an relative with Dementia and carehomes? I do in heaps
Yes, I do.
Dollywilde · 05/11/2020 11:51

@CuriousaboutSamphire

Fair enough, I’ve been posting all morning and probably approached it a bit chattily rather than a full sentence - it wasn’t meant in a barbed way, but I take your point.

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