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so we are now arresting people NOW Shocking

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Meadow1203 · 05/11/2020 11:37

I thought this was wind up but sadly it is true. A 73 year old retired nurse has been arrested and put in handcuffs because she took her own mother out of a care home. She has not had proper contact for 9 months and her poor 97 year old mum was ailing, she wanted to bring her home to care for her. Wow just wow how have we come to this.

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derxa · 09/11/2020 10:13

As I’ve already said, I’m so grateful my parents are dead. If this had happened when they were alive it would have broken their hearts and mine. Yes my sentiments exactly

MoonJelly · 09/11/2020 10:14

The people I know who are elderly in and out of care homes, are not bothered about Covid. They want to live their lives. Even if that means they run the risk of getting Covid.

If that is really the case, I doubt that they understand the reality of Covid. Who would really choose to die after a long period of struggling in great pain for every breath and ultimately effectively drowning because their lungs are so clogged?

VinylDetective · 09/11/2020 10:33

That’s how they’d go if they got pneumonia, also known as the old man’s friend.

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Meadow1203 · 09/11/2020 11:31

As usual we seem to have gone off course. My original post was about somebody being arrested for basically being for wanting to take her ailing mother home. Agreed it was not the best way to do it but I honestly feel she felt desperate and had little choice. I am glad this has been highlighted as if is a massive issue. In my mind we should not be prevented from seeing our families it is a disgusting state of affairs and dam right cruel. If we visit we could wear a mask, wash hands on entry and then stay in the room with our relative without contact with others. I know my dad would want to take the risk for a virus that lets be honest has been vastly over exaggerated.. We now know that. This is not the bubonic plague

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ComeOnBabyHauntMyBubble · 09/11/2020 12:45

@Meadow1203

As usual we seem to have gone off course. My original post was about somebody being arrested for basically being for wanting to take her ailing mother home. Agreed it was not the best way to do it but I honestly feel she felt desperate and had little choice. I am glad this has been highlighted as if is a massive issue. In my mind we should not be prevented from seeing our families it is a disgusting state of affairs and dam right cruel. If we visit we could wear a mask, wash hands on entry and then stay in the room with our relative without contact with others. I know my dad would want to take the risk for a virus that lets be honest has been vastly over exaggerated.. We now know that. This is not the bubonic plague
No she was arrested for assault and for removing a vulnerable person that they have no legal responsibility for from their home. They admitted she pushed a staff member.

They admitted they had no plan or anything in place. They took a 97 yo woman to the park ,with no coat on while they "tried to figure out what to do".

They had choices. They just didn't like those choices and didn't even bother to apply for welfare POA. Or if they did,they must've been found unfit. But it doesn't say anywhere they did.

Bloodypunkrockers · 09/11/2020 13:26

@Meadow1203

As usual we seem to have gone off course. My original post was about somebody being arrested for basically being for wanting to take her ailing mother home. Agreed it was not the best way to do it but I honestly feel she felt desperate and had little choice. I am glad this has been highlighted as if is a massive issue. In my mind we should not be prevented from seeing our families it is a disgusting state of affairs and dam right cruel. If we visit we could wear a mask, wash hands on entry and then stay in the room with our relative without contact with others. I know my dad would want to take the risk for a virus that lets be honest has been vastly over exaggerated.. We now know that. This is not the bubonic plague
Have you read ANY of the responses?

She was arrested on suspicion of assault

As has been explained to you hundreds of times

Oliversmumsarmy · 09/11/2020 14:37

The people I know who are elderly in and out of care homes, are not bothered about Covid. They want to live their lives. Even if that means they run the risk of getting Covid

If that is really the case, I doubt that they understand the reality of Covid. Who would really choose to die after a long period of struggling in great pain for every breath and ultimately effectively drowning because their lungs are so clogged

They know full well the reality of Covid as most have already had it and probably got away with a more minor illness than myself or Ds.

In reality it might be more deadly than flu but it isn’t an automatic death sentence. In fact even the very elderly and those in the extremely vulnerable group have even in a worse case scenario an 84% chance of recovery. Possibly more.

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Meadow1203 · 09/11/2020 16:00

Oliver exactly. Ans 80% who test positive show no symptoms what so ever.
comeonBaby so imagine if your child was being kept away from you and somebody physically tried to prevent you getting to her would you push this person out of the way?

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Nicknacky · 09/11/2020 16:40

Meadow1203 Oh if my child was being abducted then the least I would do is push someone.

However, if they were in the legal care of someone else then pushing someone would probably get me arrested.

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HaudYerWheeshtBawbag · 09/11/2020 16:51

No she was arrested for assault and for removing a vulnerable person that they have no legal responsibility for from their home. They admitted she pushed a staff member.

This! Saying she was arrested for removing her mother is nonsense and no matter how many times you claim it it doesn’t because true Hmm

Twistered · 09/11/2020 18:55

Op please tell me you've taken some of what has been posted on here. She was arrested because she pushed a carer in a care home. She reacted badly . She did not adhere to the safety measures in place, she pushed past to leave flowers in the home, she took her 96 mother out, she has no legality to remove her mother from the care home, she had no plan, not even proper clothes , she really did subject her mother to a unecessary ordeal.

So how is the police and care staff getting the raw end over this?

So the media should please stop with sensationalised false headlines.

MoodieMare · 09/11/2020 19:27

So how is the police and care staff getting the raw end over this?

Because care staff at least, are nothing, less than nothing to society. That's why. I can't speak for the police but I suspect the same there too.

It's all right, we'll continue to look after your elderly, vulnerable and ill family members that you can't, and take the blame when things go wrong like we always do.
When we've reached the point that it's justified to push care staff that are looking after our collective vulnerable people, because of rules brought in by government and local authorities, then something is seriously wrong.
If you want change, get out from behind your keyboard with your pointing fingers and lobby those who can actually make a difference.
No one listens to care staff. The authorities have a similar disdainful view of us that the public do.
YOU are the ones with the power, use it.

Twistered · 09/11/2020 19:28

Well said

ComeOnBabyHauntMyBubble · 09/11/2020 20:13

@MoodieMare

So how is the police and care staff getting the raw end over this?

Because care staff at least, are nothing, less than nothing to society. That's why. I can't speak for the police but I suspect the same there too.

It's all right, we'll continue to look after your elderly, vulnerable and ill family members that you can't, and take the blame when things go wrong like we always do.
When we've reached the point that it's justified to push care staff that are looking after our collective vulnerable people, because of rules brought in by government and local authorities, then something is seriously wrong.
If you want change, get out from behind your keyboard with your pointing fingers and lobby those who can actually make a difference.
No one listens to care staff. The authorities have a similar disdainful view of us that the public do.
YOU are the ones with the power, use it.

Thanks

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ineedsun · 09/11/2020 20:27

@MoodieMare

So how is the police and care staff getting the raw end over this?

Because care staff at least, are nothing, less than nothing to society. That's why. I can't speak for the police but I suspect the same there too.

It's all right, we'll continue to look after your elderly, vulnerable and ill family members that you can't, and take the blame when things go wrong like we always do.
When we've reached the point that it's justified to push care staff that are looking after our collective vulnerable people, because of rules brought in by government and local authorities, then something is seriously wrong.
If you want change, get out from behind your keyboard with your pointing fingers and lobby those who can actually make a difference.
No one listens to care staff. The authorities have a similar disdainful view of us that the public do.
YOU are the ones with the power, use it.

👏

Yes

vodkaredbullgirl · 09/11/2020 22:07

Thank you Moodiemare, we are all doing our best of a bad situation. Currently doing a night shift tonight.

marcopront · 10/11/2020 03:58

@Meadow1203

As usual we seem to have gone off course. My original post was about somebody being arrested for basically being for wanting to take her ailing mother home. Agreed it was not the best way to do it but I honestly feel she felt desperate and had little choice. I am glad this has been highlighted as if is a massive issue. In my mind we should not be prevented from seeing our families it is a disgusting state of affairs and dam right cruel. If we visit we could wear a mask, wash hands on entry and then stay in the room with our relative without contact with others. I know my dad would want to take the risk for a virus that lets be honest has been vastly over exaggerated.. We now know that. This is not the bubonic plague
1) She was arrested for assault

  1. They had put her in the care home initially

  2. They didn't go through the correct legal means to take her out

  3. In their version of the story they hadn't seen her for at least a month before lockdown

  4. They had no plan for her care

DarkMintChocolate · 10/11/2020 07:53

No one listens to care staff. The authorities have a similar disdainful view of us that the public do.
YOU are the ones with the power, use it.

No, we don’t! There isn’t enough money in the NHS and social care, and no amount of us protesting will change that fundamental fact!

Where I live, the Conservatives could put a donkey with a blue rosette up for election, and it would win! We have a right wing MP, who agrees with everything the Tories do, cutting benefits, Austerity, no free school dinners for children in the holidays, you name it!

PatriciaPerch · 10/11/2020 08:30

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MoonJelly · 10/11/2020 09:20

@Meadow1203

Oliver exactly. Ans 80% who test positive show no symptoms what so ever. comeonBaby so imagine if your child was being kept away from you and somebody physically tried to prevent you getting to her would you push this person out of the way?
Not if it was for my child's safety, no.
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