Do you want another lockdown?

[RosieCrumpet]

YABU - I want a lockdown just like before
YANBU - I don't want to lockdown.
Comment - Any variation on the above.
I'm genuinely curious to see where the majority lie on this - some people will be terrified of losing their jobs and homeschooling again whereas others would love a few more months of WFH or furloughing and extra family time.

It won’t be home schooling again. “Educational settings” will be staying open.

I don’t want one, but I think we need one (or rather, we needed one weeks ago). The longer we put it off, the worse it’ll be.

YABU I want another lockdown. I totally get them trying a regional approach but it isn't working (nor in other countries) so more needs to be done to tackle what winter will bring head on. I think we certainly need something either side of Christmas at the very least.

We should have done it when SAGE recommended it.

NO!! Im in Braintree.

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Essex Covid: The Essex town in a Tier 2 lockdown despite being in lowest 5% for infection rates
The infection rate for every Essex town has been revealed according to the latest government data.
One Essex town sits in the bottom five percent of English local authorities for infection rates - but remains under Tier Two restrcitions.

Braintree currently sits in the bottom 20 local authorities for infection rates in the whole of the country.

The data released by the government shows the rolling seven-day rate of new cases of Covid-19 in every local authority area in England.

The figures, which look at the seven days up to October 23, are based on tests carried out in laboratories and in the wider community.

While Blackburn with Darwen has the highest rate in England, with 1,176 new cases recorded in seven days, Braintree has only recorded 78 cases in the same period.

Braintree's infection rate has been recorded as 51.1 cases per 100,000, making it one of the towns with the lowest infection rates across England.

On the other end of the spectrum, the local authority of Thurrock has recorded the highest number of new cases in the county over the same seven days, with 287 people testing positive - the equivalent of 164.6 cases per 100,000 people.

Brentwood just tips Thurrock in terms of the highest rate of infection with 170.1 cases of coronavirus every 100,000 people.

While areas like Thurrock remain in Tier One, Braintree is under Tier Two restrictions as it sits in the Essex County Council region

The list of cases and infection rates for every Essex town are listed below.

From left to right, it reads the name of local authority, the rate of new cases in the seven days to October 23, number (in brackets) of new cases recorded in the seven days to October 23, the rate of new cases in the seven days to October 16 and number (in brackets) of new cases recorded in the seven days to October 16.

Braintree - 51.1 (78), 56.4 (86)

Brentwood - 170.1 (131), 92.2 (71)

Basildon - 148.5 (278), 106.3 (199)

Castle Point - 139.4 (126), 97.4 (88)

Chelmsford - 108.2 (193), 72.9 (130)

Colchester - 122.2 (238), 100.2 (195)

Epping Forest - 135.9 (179), 94.2 (124)

Harlow - 85.0 (74), 68.9 (60)

Maldon - 64.7 (42), 52.4 (34)

Rochford - 79.0 (69), 67.5 (59)

Southend-on-Sea - 87.9 (161), 69.9 (128)

Thurrock - 164.6 (287), 111.8 (195)

Uttlesford - 76.7 (70), 78.9 (72)

We live in an area with low rates so I don't see why we have to go in to lockdown. It's fucking shit.
Can't be dealing with the constant lockdown /reopening. Had the shitest maternity leave ever, and scared my parents will die. Not from the virus but because they are old and I want to be with them before they die.
So is this it? Constantly locking down and then reopening. Are they trying to make sure the economy is fucked?

I want one, this is getting unsafe.

No. I struggle badly with my mental health and barely coped with the original lockdown. The thought of another one just fills me with pure dread and makes me question the point in anything.

My heart hurts for all the businesses that are going to suffer. My partner works in hospitality and I’m worried about his job.

I’ve been on furlough since March, due to go back to work on Monday - it could be the shortest return to work ever! I’m in London but a borough with lower numbers

I doubt anyone WANTS a lockdown, but I think most people deep down know one is needed.
It’s funny because the people screaming “I want my life back” “it’s a load of shit” “we can’t keep locking down then opening up” were the same people clapping on their doorsteps earlier this year. How easily we forget.
We knew very early on that we are going to have to live with periods of lockdown and then easing before a vaccine becomes available in order for our healthcare systems to not fully collapse and all hell break loose. Yes we’re all sick to death of it, yes our lives are so much shitter now but yes, I do think a lockdown is needed right now unfortunately.

I don't want one, but I think we need one.The numbers are spiralling out of control.

I worked through the last one, but will be job hunting through this one, which obviously isn't ideal, but the situation won't be ideal if we fail to take action either. It isn't a choice between saving lives or saving the economy, because the economy will be fucked either way.

I do understand that a lockdown will take its toll on mental health. My own mental health is not in a good state at the moment, and I'm worried about the impact of the restrictions on my dd, my dh and my elderly parents. But again, I don't think it's a simple choice between prioritising mental health or covid. If the virus is allowed to spread unchecked, that will not be good for our mental health either.. think back to those scenes from Italy or New York earlier this year. None of us want to live through that, surely.

Personally, I think they should close schools, too. It would be shit for dd (year 11) but sadly I think schools are part of the problem. Universities are obviously a massive problem too, but it's hard to know what to do about those now as the students can't all just go home.

So no, I don't want a lockdown but I think we will have to have one.

Absolutely not. I want to hold onto my job to provide for my dd and the baby I’m due in a matter of weeks.

I'd rather one proper lockdown (including restricted borders) than what we've been doing for the last 9 months - this dragged out mess.

I said it in February and March, I said it again in the summer. Melbourne showed us what to do. They had an outbreak 3 months ago. They rolled up their sleeves and got on with containing it. Now their efforts are paying off. They'll get to join the rest of Australia in enjoying largely normal lives (foreign holidays excluded).

It would've been far cheaper to have provided a financial support package to the airline industry than the billions spent on furlough, EOTHO, and the ongoing economic costs of an uncontained virus.

I lost my job in March. We have not really stopped shielding (for DH). I go shopping for us, DD has gone back to school, DH works from home part time and is very controlled at work. I have met people outside for walks etc but with the weather changing this has become tricky and I have been very down lately as I virtually see no adults. Another lockdown will destroy me.

Honestly no. I can't do it again. I will definitely loose my job and house and I'm to old to start again.
If I honestly thought it would work I would go with it but the virus will still be here on the 1st December and nothing will have changed apart from more unemployment and more mental health issues

No.

Professor Devi Sridhar, one of the scientific experts advising the Scottish government, explains it well (my bold):

On a panel with several CEOs yesterday and their message was clear -> it's the virus impacting consumer behaviour & their businesses, not just restrictions. Already clear that controlling the virus with a clear strategy is best route to economic recovery.

And

Control your virus, solve your public health problem and then you get your economic recovery

Prof Sridhar also explains:

Two approaches: either keeping borders largely open like the UK, but adopting harsh domestic restrictions to try to combat community transmission; or having very tight border controls, like Taiwan and New Zealand, but few restrictions on everyday life.

And

Such false logic: uncontrolled spread doesn’t mean ‘just some people die.’ It means health services collapsing bc of high COVID hospitalisation rate (so all patients suffer), lasting economic damage from people being scared & changing behaviour, & society going backwards.

I'm in Melbourne. Our tough lockdown from July to last week was really, really hard on everyone I know. But I am so proud that we did it and got our daily cases from over 700 to O.

No one wants it but it has to happen. But a full one or it isn't worth bothering.

Essential shops only. No gyms or community halls. Schools and universities shut.

Pointless unless it's done properly.

Whether people ant it or not, it’s coming. Also, try to get used to it because this is life as we know it for the foreseeable future.

Small note, it’s not just us either, it’s the World.

No, but it's been obvious for several weeks current policy isn't adequate, obvious to everyone except our government at least. Encouraging eating out in the summer, conning students that it would all be OK, those were time bombs the government planted and now they're going off.

So now we're forced to overcorrect with a hard lockdown. Lockdown was avoidable, it isn't now.

What we need are sustainable controls, something the British government has failed to do over the past several months.

Is it? Is the rest of the world employing teenagers for T and T So they can save on wages and make more profit?

Not want, but I think we’re getting to the point of needing one.

Selfish answer- DP and I both work in Non-essential busineeses (according to the Govt anyway) which will probably close for good with a full lockdown. still recovering from reduced income , this will tip us over