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Do you want another lockdown?

380 replies

RosieCrumpet · 30/10/2020 23:33

YABU - I want a lockdown just like before
YANBU - I don't want to lockdown.
Comment - Any variation on the above.
I'm genuinely curious to see where the majority lie on this - some people will be terrified of losing their jobs and homeschooling again whereas others would love a few more months of WFH or furloughing and extra family time.

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millymollymoomoo · 31/10/2020 07:57

No closure of secondaries !!

Susanwouldntlikeit · 31/10/2020 07:58

www.carlheneghan.com/

Susanwouldntlikeit · 31/10/2020 07:58

He makes the point that the government does not release all the available data so people are not fully informed

southeastdweller · 31/10/2020 08:00

No because they don't work. Why the hell should we prioritise the lives over the very elderly and vulnerable over the many, many more younger and healthier people?

Doingitaloneandproud · 31/10/2020 08:00

Nope, didn't work last time , it's a virus it won't magically disappear. The economy is trashed, it's not sustainable. All this for a virus with such a low death rate and before anyone says I've known people die of it and still feel there shouldn't be another lockdown. You cannot control a virus.

SomewhereEast · 31/10/2020 08:04

No. And I particularly resent it being flogged as "saving Christmas". That whole line just reeks of "Santa won't bring you any toys if you're naughty". All my family live abroad anyway and as someone who ended up on anti-depressants last lockdown, I don't want to be isolated from my all my friends for six weeks so I can eat over-cooked turkey with my mother-in-law.

Whatafustercluck · 31/10/2020 08:04

I've not voted because it's more nuanced than that. Clearly I don't want a lockdown. But one is needed.

What grinds my gears more than anything though is that a short circuit breaker, had the government acted on SAGE advice early enough, would have avoided another lockdown for an extended period.

I, like many, am dreading another one. But it's where we're at and I'd rather lockdown and see the worst case scenario number of deaths reached.

SomewhereEast · 31/10/2020 08:06

No, we are in an area with low infection rates so why should we have to lockdown again

As someone living in an area with rising infections (just going into Tier 2) I really agree with this. At least the tier system minimises the total pain

Whatafustercluck · 31/10/2020 08:07

than see the worst case number of deaths realised.

SpeccyLime · 31/10/2020 08:07

People saying ‘it didn’t work last time’ - it did?!

Obviously the virus didn’t go away, but transmission hugely slowed and rates became sufficiently low for us to have a relatively normal summer. Any measure is just going to be buying time before a vaccine is available. Surely another lockdown would do the same thing - reduce rates enough to buy us more time?

cptartapp · 31/10/2020 08:08

I just want my poor Year 11 and 13's in education. Can cope without Christmas and the rest.

CrotchBurn · 31/10/2020 08:12

I am in a country that has locked down again. I can really feel.my mental health slipping out of control

Thisismylife1 · 31/10/2020 08:13

@southeastdweller but it did work last time. We got the virus down to manageable levels.

Any decent government would have capitalised on this by closing borders and putting in decent track and trace with proper enforcement.

We are isolating due to a case in DS’ class. I got an email from school to tell me. I am following it to the letter. I speak English well and am generally compliant. Where’s NHS Trace and Track phoning me up, where are the checks from the armed forces to check we aren’t going out? If there were a handful of cases then we could have done that and kept the virus at bay. As it was it’s dependent on checking email/bothering to follow it.

So we have no one but Boris to blame for all these deaths and economic hardship.

GhostCerberus · 31/10/2020 08:13

I am dreading it.

Last time was hideous. I am a family solicitor and working from home- trying to home school my children (one with severe learning issues), trying to still participate in remote court hearings, the massive explosion of domestic violence and non-molestation orders, the client s either using covid as an excuse to withold contact to the other parent. The stress was relentless. Those of us who work in the court system were classified as key workers by the government but as I would say to my colleagues; 'No-one is standing clapping for the divorce lawyers of the UK'. The abuse I have suffered from clients because I might get them a non-mol but can't get an occupation order because of lockdown and so the courts decide that a two bed flat has to be zoned for the parties to still live in the same area. The abuse i have received from people because there is such a fucking backlog at the courts that divorces are taking 6 months longer than usual. All while trying to maintain my eldest son's mental health which deteriorated badly over lockdown. I have been suicidal with stress- genuinely suicidal. And have had my first day off since January 2nd on my younger son's birthday at the beginning of October.

So if we have another lockdown I truly do not think I can cope.

CrotchBurn · 31/10/2020 08:13

They have stopped my grans cancer treatment and the doctors have told her she wouldnt survive covid.

Her attitude is "we all have to die of something". Just made me think.

Imapotato · 31/10/2020 08:14

I live in a very low infection rate area. I feel so mad that we are possibly going to have to go into another lockdown when we have managed to keep our levels low, even with summer tourism.

I’m at the point now where I think this is not going to go away. The 4 month lockdown didn’t get rid of it. It just sprung up again as soon as restrictions were lifted. Why do they think a month is going to do any good? We need to learn to live with it.

Kazmerelda · 31/10/2020 08:14

@ChardonnaysPetDragon

How do we know this though? We know nothing about this virus right now! Even the medical experts are still understanding it.

That’s not true.

Thousands of people tested have had it without even noticing

Do you want to lock down on the off chance that they might suddenly develop something, in a few years or so?

We also seem to know enough to be able to develop vaccines.

What I should have added is the lockdowns as we have it right now aren’t working. So whilst I am not in support of another national lockdown no one has a real scooby as to what is going on.

As for the not knowing this virus I stand by that. We are learning sure, but reading studies on this (proper medical ones not the daily fail) but we still don’t t know enough. And as for a vaccine, they don’t believe it will work effectively enough yet. So still in progress.

I think the balance of economy and health will always be emotive and difficult. People's mental health too. Tbh I feel abit like we are mushrooms right now, kept in the dark and fed on sh1t.

PhilCornwall1 · 31/10/2020 08:17

Surely another lockdown would do the same thing - reduce rates enough to buy us more time?

And even more jobs go and businesses go bust.

Womencanlift · 31/10/2020 08:17

On the whole I am for another lockdown IF it will bring benefit but the question is does the benefit of health outweigh the benefit of the economy (short and long term)?

Last lockdown, I enjoyed it to an extent. I could wfh in a reasonably secure job, it was spring and weather was good so I could get out for walks and I enjoyed the solitude.

However this changed when a close family member lost their job and nearly had a mental breakdown as a result. Fortunately they got another job but that is in a place that would be severely impacted if lockdown was to happen again. Seriously don’t think they could mentally handle another job loss.

So if we can lockdown and protect jobs then I’m for it. But as I know this is unlikely I am terrified as to what impact a lockdown will bring.

On a selfish note I live alone hundreds of miles away from family and what has got me through the last few months was getting home for Christmas and joining my parents bubble. That is looking unlikely now

wowfudge · 31/10/2020 08:18

I don't want it, but it could be the solution. I'm worried about people's lives with the impact on the economy of a second lockdown.

Thisismylife1 · 31/10/2020 08:18

@GhostCerberus I hear you it was awful although as a key worker you did have option of sending your children to school. I was working at home with two kids in an incredibly stressful job but no option of sending them to school. I think it’s clear schools will stay open this time.

SomewhereEast · 31/10/2020 08:19

My home country (Ireland) has just gone into a six week hard lock down and even the government's own estimates suggest that could cost over 100,000 jobs, in a country with a population of 5.5 million. And no one in Ireland thinks it will be the last lock down. I was reading a report recently in which a woman working at a food bank equivalent in Madrid said that she worried Spain was only a few months away from social breakdown, and that's a country with a left-wing government and an interminable furlough scheme. I honestly think that's a risk for every country in Europe if governments keep imposing harsh restrictions of an increasingly frustrated and miserable population against a background of mass unemployment.

As for the last lockdown "working". Firstly we had genuine mass panic & therefore very high compliance, and secondly we had seasonality on our side...and its pretty obvious now that Covid is strongly seasonal.

Thisismylife1 · 31/10/2020 08:20

@Womencanlift re your Xmas point, it seems well established that support bubbles can exist so I am sure you can go home for Xmas. That’s the point of them.

byvirtue · 31/10/2020 08:20

No because it’s insane to lock up healthy people....yet again!

Im in an area with low infection rates, I don’t know anyone who has had Covid since March! I imagine most of us will carry on as we are, I feel sorry for all the small businesses who will be forced to shut yet again.

Mayra1367 · 31/10/2020 08:22

No don’t want another lockdown. Don’t want to see NHS services for non covid patients sacrificed again.
Hearing more and more about people with non covid illnesses being left without treatment or sub standard treatment.