Do you want another lockdown?

[RosieCrumpet]

YABU - I want a lockdown just like before
YANBU - I don't want to lockdown.
Comment - Any variation on the above.
I'm genuinely curious to see where the majority lie on this - some people will be terrified of losing their jobs and homeschooling again whereas others would love a few more months of WFH or furloughing and extra family time.

I don’t want one but I think it’s needed.

I think we need to learn to live with but I do think we have to do what needs to be done so no one is turned away from hospital

The point is, people are already, or more to the point, have had very important consultant appointments cancelled and no hope on the horizon of getting another. So the same thing essentially.

I've had 3 cancelled and told they won't be remade until this is over, which means no care for my condition as the GP just says "you are under the consultant". So I just get worse with no help at all.

But, you know, covid and all that.

@Hardbackwriter
It's possibly too late to do a proper lockdown, but then again people said the same thing - 'that ship has sailed' etc etc in the summer. Melbourne didn't.

3 or 4 months ago the state of Victoria in Australia - Melbourne especially - had a bad outbreak (failed quarantine measures that won't be repeated bar intentional sabotage)

They could've been like us. Thrown the towel in. They didn't. They rolled up their sleeves, got on with containment - and now their efforts have paid off.

We're likely looking at another year of this. Vaccine rollout is rumoured to be soon - but it's not guaranteed yet. And it will take a long time to get enough people vaccinated to achieve proper containment.

Taking the above into account, it might just be worth going for it. Doing it properly to get it over with.

Certainly we should as a minimum stop non essential travel and improve our quarantine measures.

@PhilCornwall1 Ive been on a few of the same threads as you re masks Ive NCed.

DM was taken to hospital last weekend. She collapsed at home She had a blood test in August postponed from March (Covid) Paramedics took an ECG and found a glitch, She collapsed because her leg gave way which she was waiting for treatment on.

[quote MercyBooth]@PhilCornwall1 Ive been on a few of the same threads as you re masks Ive NCed.

DM was taken to hospital last weekend. She collapsed at home She had a blood test in August postponed from March (Covid) Paramedics took an ECG and found a glitch, She collapsed because her leg gave way which she was waiting for treatment on.[/quote]
That sounds terrible, I'm sorry to hear that.

I'm just struggling to control pain, hence crashed here on the settee at 1am eating codeine like Smarties. Just realised I've been up since 3am, well yesterday now at this.

It's all just one big mess to be honest.

@MercyBooth
I'm sorry about your mother. I really hope she makes a full recovery.

No and we are moving out of our city (Sydney) in anticipation of one. There is a lot more going on than just CoVid.

**Leaannb

I want a full and complete lockdown. Mo pansy ass shit like before. The numbers are higher now than ever before in my area. Thats the only thing that will help**

Will help until when exactly? Until the next time everything opens up again then what back to another lockdown to solve the problem? Yeah because that work before didn’t it?! The damage this will do financially to people is beyond thinking about.

Only those who jobs are safe are for lockdowns. My business is safe but my heart breaks watching others loose everything they’ve worked so hard for. And all for a 99% survival rate! This isn’t going away you can’t play hide and seek with a god dam virus!

I am in an area with really low infection rates. We have had 3 deaths since August. My hospital has seen barely any rise in cases.

I am about to give birth any day now. My due date is Monday! I have NO idea how I am going to cope. No idea whatsoever.

Want one? No. Do I think we need one? Yes, inc. Schools or it's just going to go on and on. If only we'd had a short sharp one in September when the initial increase happened then all would be fine now. For a few months at least anyway.
How have they managed to make the same mistake twice?
What are the daily death rates going to look like in 3 or 4 weeks from now?
I honestly think the government's negligence is criminal.

This isn’t going away you can’t play hide and seek with a god dam virus!

Exactly, when they lift the restrictions, whatever they will be, I think we can all guess what will happen. So what's after that, lockdown again?

It is required because we need to allow the medical staff to do their jobs. Without it they will be overwhelmed, not just Covid - normal emergency things that happen every winter ie. winter flu/norovirus can often overwhelm beds in hospitals.

The staff are only human and if you want your relative that has been involved in a crash/heart attack to have an NHS specialist still standing to see them, then we need to limit our interaction with one another currently and follow advice.

People that wish to accept a certain number of deaths from the virus - very good of you - but there are people that work on that front line in medical services dealing with this outcome and it is inhumane to leave people to die.

To say other people should deal with the dirty laundry of choosing who lives/dies is naive as ultimately it reflects on us all as a society if we treat our medical staff this way, let alone leaving those untreated because staff are ill/isolating/overwhelmed with patients with any number of normal conditions.

We would like elective surgery to continue, but depends on public's behaviour as to whether that can happen.

No-one wants it at all, but it is required.

I'd really rather not have one (Year 11 DD due to do exams in November), but I think it's needed and as Wales is already on lockdown I imagine they'll extend it here and add at least England for 2-4 weeks.

@DeeCeeCherry

No, I don't. I'm worried about effects on people's emotional and financial well-being. Worried about small businesses too. It won't be a proper lockdown so it will make no difference. Borders are still open, I very much doubt schools will close, so what's the point of another faux-lockdown? Government didn't do it properly in the 1st place so, here we are. Seems to me lockdown is aimed at hospitality and leisure services only which is so wrong. I imagine people who want another faux-lockdown are those who look forward to staying home on full pay, those who don't go out much anyway, have a garden, 2 parent families comfortable life and salary. So it's a case of who cares about anyone else

No, it's not a case of who cares about anyone else. It's a fear of it getting so bad that there will be no way to avoid getting the virus and hospitals being so overwhelmed that people die unnecessarily. I don't think anyone who wants a lockdown wants a faux one, it should be done properly or it's ineffectual. Unfortunately it's highly unlikely to be done properly, it wasn't even done properly the first time, and this time they are unlikely to even close schools, so even more pointless.

Definitely don't want a lockdown
Vet worried about the economy and people's mental health

It's necessary so whether i want it or not is neither here nor there. It won't change anything for me though, things will carry on as normal as I will still have to go to work.

We need it!

@Fizzydrinks123 Why the determination to blame it all on the public. And say its dependent on the publics behaviour? T and T needs to be got up to scratch. Im sick of the onus being put on the public.
Ive done all the things im meant to do and so have many others. A lot of us are getting sick of hearing that its still not enough

Well unfortunately now because of the attempts to put the onus all on the public more of the public are starting to realize that whatever we do it will never be enough.

I can’t afford to close my business again.

I am also in a tier one area.

Why the determination to blame it all on the public. And say its dependent on the publics behaviour?

It's just echoing what every bloody Minister interviewed by the likes of Kay Burleigh is doing.

They are just trying to cover up their incompetence by blaming the public.

I suppose it's probably the only way to get cases and ultimately deaths under control right now.

I guess our household is quite fortunate in that we can all work from home so no real need to go out at the moment. Most friends and family live quite far away so this year we have resigned ourselves to virtual communication, even after things were relaxed a bit. Weren't therefore not really going out much - just a bit at quiet times to exercise and do the food shop.

Because of that it's quite hard to imagine how the cases really are taking off but I feel for the people who have to go out in public to work and probably can't socially distance a lot of the time (god I'm sick of that phrase). Also for the students stuck in uni halls where it's running rife. We probably need it to keep all that under control but those people are going to suffer the most from it.

*We're therefore not

My concern is that they say this is to protect the NHS, but if we don’t prioritise The economy then whose taxes will be funding the NHS?

Death rates for non-Covid issues now match Covid deaths. They said the other day that more children have committed suicide since March than have died Of Covid. Male suicides are in the rise too.

I don’t know what the answer is but I don’t think it’s this.

No I don't think we should lockdown.
If they close schools and childcare again and I'm plunged into WFH with a 2 and 4 year old I don't think I'll cope. It was hell on earth last time.