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To not want an unlicensed Covid vaccine that govt and pharma would have no liability for?

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colouringindoors · 18/09/2020 20:29

This consultation closes tonight.

While I am totally pro vaccination, the govt are proposing to:

a) distribute an unlicensed vaccine (hasn't gone through full testing).
b) remove any liability for negative side effects from pharma companies and government.
c) let vaccine be administered by non healthcare professionals (scope unlimited).

These regulations will be put in place for Covid vaccine, but not limited to Covid.

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itsblueisntit · 18/09/2020 20:30

Link?

Lollypop701 · 18/09/2020 20:31

They can say what they want but I will not get it.... a license is required for any drug I take

colouringindoors · 18/09/2020 20:31

Here’s something I saw which I based mine on

Whether you are pro-vaccine or vaccine-hesitant this is important as they're trying to push through the ability to inject us with unlicensed products.

I'm not going to enter into any debates about this in the comments. There's enough division going on without the need to add more into the mix. It's purely to make you aware. If it resonates, take action. If not, scroll on by pls. 😉

Whatever your beliefs, getting this covid situation under control and making sure our loved ones are safe, I'd imagine is a priority.

The Government is planning to change the Law to:

  • Allow unlicensed vaccinations to be administered to the public (remember thalidomide?)
  • Allow these to be administered by anyone (not just doctors & nurses)
  • Indemnify both Government and Manufacturers from ANY liability should illness/disability/death result
  • Allow £millions to be pumped into advertising/promotion of said vaccinations ~ and for these to be sold privately for profit
  • Allow the redistribution of vaccines from ‘all available sources’ to meet the demand so what might start out as a trusted ‘Oxford University’ creation (which has been paused as the first stage of trials has resulted in hospitalisation of a volunteer) could easily be switched into a nanotechnology concoction.

The idea that our government is trying to rush through, promote and change the law to allow unlicensed drugs and remove further liability is a concern.

www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu

Despite this consultation closing on the 18 September 2020 I have seen no publicity made other than on people's social media pages.

These are the type of answers you need to give in the boxes. It's good to copy or adapt 👇👇👇👇

I agreed to answer all aspects of the consultation - so make sure you tick all the boxes.

  1. Temporary Authorisation of the supply of unlicensed products:

It is totally unethical, I reject this proposal.

  1. Civil Liability and Immunity:

Anyone involved in the distribution and manufacture of unlicensed medicines should be made fully liable. I reject this proposal.

  1. Expansion to the workforce eligible to administer vaccinations:

Only medical professionals who are fully aware of the unlicensed medicine's actual ingredients, potential impacts on an individual's health, all side effects and that there is zero financial recompense for issuing the said medicine(s) should be considered. Only medical professionals should be eligible. I reject this proposal.

  1. Vaccine Promotion:

I reject any promotion of unlicensed medicine or vaccines.

  1. Provisions for wholesale dealing of vaccines:

No profit should be made from unlicensed medicines or vaccines. I reject this proposal.

  1. On the following page: What can we do better?

Stop trying to rush through unlicensed medicines. There is little public awareness of what you are doing and a short deadline for response. It is unacceptable and I reject these methods.

www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu

The EU plan to propose to stop us travelling from 2022 without Digital Vaccination Passports - this has been planned since 2018. See link in the first comment.

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UnaMujer · 18/09/2020 20:32

You are incorrect.

I take an unlicensed medication to treat a chronic illness Unlicensed does not mean untested.

giletrouge · 18/09/2020 20:34

Fuck me - again with this shite?
a) an unlicensed vaccine HAS gone through full testing but is having the process of licencing put on emergency footing.
b) someone else please muster the facts on this one.
c) Many, many people learn to give perfectly fine injections - diabetics inject themselves, people having IVF, etc etc - it's not hard and WITH TRAINING it's not dangerous, people WILL BE TRAINED.

Please stop this nonsense.

Davros · 18/09/2020 20:34

My DH takes a drug intended for diabetes to treat his Parkinson's. It's not licensed for Parkinson's

colouringindoors · 18/09/2020 20:35

Unlicensed for your condition? But usually licensed for another and therefore fully tested.

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Davros · 18/09/2020 20:35

And he injects himself with it every week

itsblueisntit · 18/09/2020 20:35

It's such a predicament.

Do we wait years for a vaccine and crumble or remove barriers to get a quicker solution. Such a responsibility.

However, you seem to be implying there is an agenda behind this. To do something untoward. That's just as unhelpful.

colouringindoors · 18/09/2020 20:37

giletrouge it's commenting on a consultation that most people I know have never heard of.

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TheLastStarfighter · 18/09/2020 20:37

FFS

UnaMujer · 18/09/2020 20:38

I take lamotrigene. It’s is an anticonvulsant that is licensed to treat epilepsy.

My psychiatrist prescribes it as a mood stabiliser to treat my bipolar disorder even though it is not licensed to treat it.

colouringindoors · 18/09/2020 20:39

itsblue not implying anything. But aware that our government's morals and capabilities are limited.

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UnaMujer · 18/09/2020 20:40

@colouringindoors

Unlicensed for your condition? But usually licensed for another and therefore fully tested.
Do you have a link to any evidence that the vaccines being developed in the UK aren’t being fully tested?
Porcupineinwaiting · 18/09/2020 20:48

Well you know vaccination is voluntary in the UK. When they plan to change that I'll get upset.

Gancanny · 18/09/2020 20:48

The Oxford vaccine trial is not currently paused. It was very briefly paused due to one volunteer becoming unwell. It was concluded that the illness was unlikely to have been caused by the vaccine and the trial resumed almost a week ago.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say the vaccine "could easily be switched into a nanotechnology concoction"?

SparklyLeprechaun · 18/09/2020 20:49

It's a big conspiracy OP, Bill Gates is behind it, he wants to implant us all with unlicensed chips under the guise of a vaccine, that's why.

Gancanny · 18/09/2020 20:50

To be fair, if I was as rich as Bill Gates I'd probably become an evil mega-overlord too. I mean there are only so many galas and regattas you can go to before you start thinking that a lair and mind control would be a better use of your time.

colouringindoors · 18/09/2020 20:51

helpful.
It's a link to a consultation.
Totally optional.

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Gancanny · 18/09/2020 20:52

Totally optional

Much like the vaccine itself then?

Davros · 18/09/2020 20:55


BILL GATES

Davros · 18/09/2020 20:56

Oh no, picture didn't attach. Soz

Gancanny · 18/09/2020 20:56

It's a conspiracy. The internet doesn't want you to post that picture.

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