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To not cross line at junction to let police past

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DiggerDave · 11/09/2020 01:18

First post on mumsnet and could be a controversial one!

Many people don't seem to be aware that you're not technically allowed to break the law to let emergency vehicles past, including crossing the line at the lights. Police supposedly know this and Blue Light Aware, which advises on how to help 999 crews, says on its website: "On these occasions, they know that other motorists are not allowed to ‘jump’ the red light, and the emergency vehicle would ideally not activate its sirens and lights until it was safe for the vehicle in front to cross the solid white line at the junction."

The problem is that many officers don't seem to have got this memo and will attempt to bully you out the way, like one did to me today.

About 18 months ago, I pulled across the line to let an ambulance past and got a fine and three points. As the line was set back from the counterflowing traffic, I wasn't causing any danger and it was a perfectly safe manoeuvre.

I wasn't initially concerned and thought I could get it rescinded. To my surprise, they wouldn't remove it and I had to take the points. This would be a pain for any driver, but in my case it affects my job significantly. I'm a site supervisor and my job requires a Class 2 HGV license amongst other things. My employer is extremely strict and won't tolerate more than six points - it's company policy. I'm already on three now thanks to the above incident and another such incident would put me on my last chance.

I can't afford to lose the ability to provide for my family, so today when I was at the front of the queue and everybody else moved over, I made the police car wait. He started beeping and flashing and so did the other drivers. Once he finally went past, giving me an angry glare, I then had several other drivers giving me wanker signs etc.

What's a bloke to do! Really made me feel tiny but didn't have a great deal of choice! There was a great big red light camera (gatso type) right next to me so was unlikely to get away with it.

OP posts:
Chesneyhawkes1 · 14/09/2020 17:39

For the same reason I guess all the other posters have said - it seems unfair and some people, as they've already said, would move under that kind of pressure and get a fine/points.

ProfessorSlocombe · 14/09/2020 17:49

@Chesneyhawkes1

For the same reason I guess all the other posters have said - it seems unfair and some people, as they've already said, would move under that kind of pressure and get a fine/points.
Whoever said the law - or life - was fair ?

As I've noted a few times this isn't anything now, and parliament has had decades to change the law if they wanted.

You can deduce from the unchanged law that they don't want to.

Anyway, given recent events, it seems much as names is for tombstones baby, laws is for losers.

Lougle · 14/09/2020 17:52

Blue Light Aware video - clearly says that emergency services do not expect you to cross the line to allow them through. If possible, you pull over to the left. If not, you stay still, they find a way around.

Brahumbug · 14/09/2020 18:16

For that matter, perhaps you should contact the local police, apologise for your failure to move when everyone else did.

Brahumbug · 14/09/2020 18:19

For that matter, perhaps you should contact the local police, apologise for your failure to move when everyone else did.
Apologise for not breaking the law? What utter drivel. The only person who should be apologising is the uniformed bully who didn't turn off his blues and twos, as he is required to.

TooManyDogsandChildren · 14/09/2020 18:20

No you are correct OP. You should not commit a traffic offence to give way for a vehicle with a blue light.

Pull over if you can, otherwise I'm afraid they have to wait until the lights change and they should know this.

PinkiOcelot · 14/09/2020 18:51

That’s ridiculous. I didn’t know that.

Elieza · 14/09/2020 19:10

OP what happened when you appealed against the letter telling you that you were getting a fine and points before?

I thought that you’d get off with it once you explained the circumstances and they’d checked the footage and seen the emergency vehicle in the photo?

ProfessorSlocombe · 14/09/2020 19:12

@Elieza

OP what happened when you appealed against the letter telling you that you were getting a fine and points before?

I thought that you’d get off with it once you explained the circumstances and they’d checked the footage and seen the emergency vehicle in the photo?

The law is the law. Even when it's being broken in limited and specific ways, this isn't one of them and the penalty stands. The courts have no power to waive it.
Gindrinker43 · 14/09/2020 19:47

It is made quite clear during emergency driver training for the blue light services that you must not force a driver to cross over a junction. Drivers should sit tight at the junction and let the emergency vehicle find its way around you.

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