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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To have no idea why my BF sent me this message and to feel really weirded out by it?

262 replies

Flummoxed2020 · 10/09/2020 10:14

I have two female friends who I would count as my 'best friends' the type you can rely on in a crisis and tell anything to. To give a bit of background: One I have been friends with for 20 years, we bonded because we both had trauma in our past, and were both raped as pre teens by family members. we have always helped each other out emotionally in a very balanced, boundaried way. I was a children's social worker until recently, she is an OT in a mental health team so we both 'got' the stress in crisis work.

This friend has just moved close to me after living in another city for the last few years but we still saw each other regularly maybe once a month, seen each other more as she now lives 4 miles away maybe 2/3 times a month. On Sunday she invited me and my DP out for first lockdown drinks in pubs with her DH, her other close friend and her DH. The night went well, I drank less than everyone else (2 full alcoholic drinks then had 3 shandies, the rest had full pints as they weren't working). I have a big report to write this week so needed a clear head. I was not at all drunk and remember the entire night. DP and I left first at about 9pm and we all left on good terms. We had a good much needed laugh and the following day (Monday) I sent her a message saying how I had loved the night and was glad she has moved over near us and sent her a funny picture of us and said we look like we are in a band. She replied with two laughing faces, a heart, and said 'Front Cover!' x

Last night I got this message off her:

'You went to (sic) far with me on Sunday night. I am not willing to discuss it with you and have blocked you on social media. I'm done'.

My initial thought was 'What??' Showed DP it and his reaction was the same. She has blocked me on FB, Instagram and Whatsapp. I am still on her husband and Mum's social media.

DP and I are wracking our brains about what I could have said. Hand on heart I truly have no idea. I am the kind of person who is careful about people's feelings, I am a trained family therapist ffs, and if I had even inadvertently said something crass, offensive or upsetting I would have clocked reactions, been worrying about it and would have been gutted about causing upset. I am not in the business of hurting people. It is the last thing I want to do. I was the most sober one there so I was best placed to catch the tone and mood IYSWIM and I didn't pick up on anything!

I feel so weird as that message and the blocking etc has given me no recourse to amend anything with her, discuss what she received as hurtful or even know what the hell I did wrong. I can't apologise or clarify any position. My friend does have a history of psychosis and mania/depression and I have thought (but never voiced as not my place) that she may have undiagnosed complex PTSD so I am wondering if she is unwell, but I do respect that she does not want to discuss this with me so won't push it and don't want to project that all on to her if i have done something wrong. I feel weird and upset because I loved her, I trusted her and I hate the thought that she is hurt but now I feel upskittled because it feels almost abusive to cut me off in this way and if my BF of 20 years can do this, anyone can. I feel a bit shaken by it tbh. My mental health is important to me and I am sensitive to drama like this. I didn't sleep last night. AIBU and petty? Is this normal in a friendship?

I am 41, with 3DC btw, she is 37 and trying for a baby to give context, so is under stress.

OP posts:
concretingwow · 10/09/2020 18:20

OP you could send a message saying "I am really sorry you are upset. I genuinely have no idea why and would really like to know, please could you send me an email to explain what I said, and also what I have said in the past which has upset you? I would be really grateful as I really genuinely do not know".

A pp has suggested you send this to your BF's DP "Hi x, I received this message from y and it made me a bit concerned. I don't think I did anything that would upset her the other night, and everything's been fine between us since until now. I am worried that she may be unwell? If I genuinely have done something then that's fine and I won't message her again as requested, I just wanted to make you aware that she's acting out of character and you may want to check in with her." but I think that this could sound gaslighting if the BF really is annoyed about something, and not going through some MH struggles? It would make her more annoyed.

Some of the other posters thought I was unfair with the clueless remark. It was just my opinion. I have dc but I had dc late and at 37 I thought that I would never have children and I personally thought that your comments lacked understanding, but 2 other posters don't agree.

Karwomannghia · 10/09/2020 18:22

This is why I think a message should be avoided. Read the 2 above in an annoyed demanding tone for example and it could all escalate very quickly. It needs a phonecall.

BloggersBlog · 10/09/2020 18:33

I dont agree @Karwomannghia with a phone call. If someone is coping with MH issues they may find a phone call intrusive, especially when they have asked to be left alone and said they do not want to discuss it. Yes, she doesnt have to answer the phone, but it can be very unsettling.

A text message can be read when you feel able to, and answered or not as wanted.

shesgonebatshitagain · 10/09/2020 18:41

@Karwomannghia

This is why I think a message should be avoided. Read the 2 above in an annoyed demanding tone for example and it could all escalate very quickly. It needs a phonecall.
You make a very valid point there
heymacaroner · 10/09/2020 18:46

Personally if I were the friend recieving a phone call without knowing how OP might speak over the phone would intimidate me. And then you'd also have to deal with the dilemna of what to do if she doesn't answer, which she may well not, because then if you message or call again it starts to look a bit harassing when she's asked not to hear from you.
I think a calmly worded message is the best way to go, being clear in the message that it's not your intention to continue to contact her if she doesn't reply but expressing concern that you don't know what went wrong and you'd really like to understand so you would have the opportunity to apologise, even if she feels the friendship is not repairable.

Mittens030869 · 10/09/2020 18:52

I don't think a phone call is a good idea at all. Not when the friend has blocked the OP on everything. It would be pressuring her too much, and if she is agitated in any way, it could make everything that much worse. I've been there with my ex best friend, desperately anxious about her welfare and hence trying too hard.

Karwomannghia · 10/09/2020 18:55

Sorry I meant a phone call to the dh either by op or her dh. It’s just so easy to read messages differently to how they were intended, especially when it’s already a difficult situation. Maybe just a text first to say can I give you a quick call?

Flummoxed2020 · 10/09/2020 18:59

I don't feel that it was a good friendship if she can so easily cut me off and blocking me on everything is a very deliberate act. I know I haven't crossed any line. I haven't been insensitive around her infertility. Ever. I have offered loads of listening and always said I can't imagine how it feels but I'm so sorry she has to deal with it because it's shit. There is nothing I said on Sunday night that was about her infertility. Nothing.

OP posts:
Apple222 · 10/09/2020 19:00

Whatever you do now could cause offence. If you send a message you are potentially disrespecting her request for space. If you go through her DH you are potentially disempowering her.

If in doubt do nowt.

MoreCookiesPlease · 10/09/2020 19:02

Maybe her psychosis is returning.

HotPenguin · 10/09/2020 19:02

If she lives nearby why not pop over with some flowers? It seems a shame to let the friendship go without doing anything.

birthdaybelle · 10/09/2020 19:06

She's about to go in to psychosis I'm afraid. You can't rationalise your or her way out of it. She has a husband (who I assume as you haven't said otherwise) is a decent supportive person so all you can do is send positive vibes and wait for things to blow over. I'd say pray for her from a distance but I'm religious and appreciate that idea isn't for everyone.

It's not her fault but stay away for now, you don't want to end up in the line of fire during this.

RightYesButNo · 10/09/2020 19:11

I must agree with everyone else. I think if there was a vote for:

  1. YABU
  2. YANBU
  3. YANBU, she is probably unwell, and you should definitely try contacting her husband;

Probably hundreds of us would have voted for option 3 to simplify things.

islockdownoveryet · 10/09/2020 19:15

You sound like a good friend op I'm sure you haven't done anything.
Hopefully you can get to the bottom of it .

OfaFrenchmind2 · 10/09/2020 19:21

I am sorry, I do not mean to be offensive or insulting at all, but I have very little knowledge of the Mental health system, but is it at all possible to be an occupational therapist with a diagnostic of psychosis?

SuckingDownDarjeeling · 10/09/2020 19:27

You have been actively socialising with her and she's been your best friend for decades. In your situation, I would want to send a card to her address, to express that I don't know what has happened, that I miss her, and if she will tell me what's wrong, I will listen and I will apologise for anything I've done wrong. Given the circumstances I don't think that's pandering too much to any kind of drama, this is totally out of the ordinary, and if she's unwell, then having a card as a physical reminder that you're her best friend and you love her will be invaluable to her recovery.

Tempusfudgeit · 10/09/2020 19:45

It crossed my mind that the husband could have written it and blocked you?

birthdaybelle · 10/09/2020 20:06

@OfaFrenchmind2 yes, absolutely. In fact it's considered a benefit to have lived through and learned to manage bipolar or another mental illness because it leads to understanding. Plenty of people, myself included, manage bipolar well and are perfectly capable of working in these kinds of roles. Unfortunately however, Miss a few pills or have something set you off and you can go in to psychosis. She will have a safety plan for such an eventuality and colleagues/ close family should know the signs.

concretingwow · 10/09/2020 20:10

OP I have upset you with the clueless about infertility comment and i am sorry about that, but I think that you misunderstood what I meant. The reason why I thought you were possibly not understanding the affect of infertility on her is because your long opening post about your feelings and what happened only had a one liner at the bottom about the infertility, also that you said in the opening post simply that she was trying and only in a later post said that she had been trying for 2 years which makes a significant difference, so I thought you might lack awareness of the impact of it, not that you were intentionally being mean about it.

You have said you are getting sleepless nights over it and I don't blame you, I would be too, I very nearly lost an old friend over a disagreement and I was absolutely devastated. It is very upsetting for you, so look after yourself and get some extra TLC for yourself from your DP.

Coyoacan · 10/09/2020 20:15

I think the Waitrose comment was really shitty

Having had all kinds of jobs and found the supermarket jobs to be the worst of them all, I don't think being surprised that someone likes working in a supermarket is snotty or snobbish at all.

ZeldaPrincessOfHyrule · 10/09/2020 20:20

OP, I really sympathise, but I think contacting her DP is the only way you'll potentially get answers. Anything else is just you tying yourself in knots and that's going to do you absolutely no good at all. That's why so many are saying it's the only option if you want to know what you've supposedly done. I'm sorry it's happened, I've had similar from a 'friend' (thought not of 20 years!) and it's shit.

Mittens030869 · 10/09/2020 20:22

Having had all kinds of jobs and found the supermarket jobs to be the worst of them all, I don't think being surprised that someone likes working in a supermarket is snotty or snobbish at all.

And the OP's DM works in ASDA, so she probably hears her moans about her job on a regular basis, so it's not exactly difficult to understand that she would be surprised that this other friend actually enjoys it??

Prig · 10/09/2020 20:24

Textbook narc behaviour. Accuse (no explanation, and it's n real, it's not actually the reason it's happening anyway), ignore/ silent treatment. You are in the disard phase.

Prig · 10/09/2020 20:25

Argh sorry. *discard phase

Mittens030869 · 10/09/2020 20:27

@concretingwow

But no one who hasn't been through infertility actually gets it at all, they just don't. That was my experience when I was going through it. That included close family members and friends. They meant well, and I didn't have any ill feelings towards them, but they didn't understand. In fact, if the OP had tried to make out that she did get it, I wouldn't have been all that impressed, because she would have been talking about something she didn't understand.