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AIBU / Selfish to not want to date a single Mum?

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jimmyjammy001 · 30/08/2020 00:16

I am a Male just turned 30, single for couple years, never married, no kids, own house, good job, having drinks with friends tonight and dating subject came up, none of which are dating people who allready have kids, I said not really anyone suitable on online dating as they have children and that is not what I want from a long term relationship, a couple of them (females) said that I am selfish for not dating women who allready have children.

I have done in the past, but it never worked out for me, I allways found it alot of hassle/problematic/dramas. I have met some genuinely nice women but unfortunately it comes down to the kids getting in the way for it not working out, if they were childless then I could see a future.

Some examples are:

Nights in with them and their children causing havoc, not what I or I think any bloke would want on a date night.

I would have to plan my lifestyle around their childcare arrangements, I do shift work and can have Mon, Tues and weds off but they might only have Thurs eve free for a few hours so I would rearrange shifts and then just as the date is going well they will look at their watch and be like it's half 8 I have to go back and relieve the babysitter and put the kids to bed. I like the dates where we can just sit back have drinks til like 11/12 after food then go back to one of our houses.

Holidays have allways been a no go, can only go during summer holidays and pay 4 times the price to somewhere like butlins, never can have weekends away just 2 of us, or last minute date nights, everything has to be planned weeks in advance so childcare can be arranged and sometimes their kids will go sick on the night which means date cancelled.

I want someone who can come out late with me and my friends and not have to dash off early each week and can do couple things as well. If I stay out then it causes arguments.

Staying over theres and usually have their kids jumping up and down on the bed in the morning, not fun!

Weekends if the kids are with them, we have to goto pepper pig World for the day or some animal adventure park and then go to hungry horse and eat rubbish food as it is a child friendly place and listen to kids running around screaming their heads off. Or watch them play football for a few hours, or dance practice. Non of which I can stand.

I suppose as a male with no children I have alot more time on my hands to go and do things on my days off, go on holidays outside of term time, nights and weekends away, camping, playing sports, non of which women with children that I have been with can do, it just allways feels like I am a part time boyfriend as only get to see them once or maybe twice a week, otherwise they are just to busy. I understand their kids need to allways come first and I will allways be second, would just much rather be with someone where we are both each others no 1 and can start a family from scratch not a ready made one.

Looking at longer term one or two I have been with rely heavily on benefits, I don't think I could live with someone else and their kids it would probably drive me insane and also being step dad, but also they're benefits would get recalculated if we were to move in together taking my salary into account which means they would not receive any benefit money and I would have to subsidize / give them over £1000 a month out of my take-home pay, which I really can't see as fair?

Then there is the dramas of the ex, as there is a reason they are not together, so you have to offer sympathy all of the time and agree with them when they talk negatively about the ex, birthdays and Xmas is allways very complicated, where kids should be having to pick them up from different places.

What is quite annoying/hilarious is that some womens dating profiles who have children genuinely can't understand what problems their kids bring to a relationship and will say my kids are my world and if your not man enough to handle them swipe left or it's your problem if you don't like my kids, they will get very defensive and hostile as soon as I mention that I am not interested due to the kids if they have not mentioned they have any previously.

In my opinion the cons far outweigh the pros, Surely I can't be unreasonable for not wanting any of this hassle? My own happiness should be paramount in a relationship, not just get into one to make someone else happy.

OP posts:
sandybeaches74 · 30/08/2020 00:21

Hmm I have 2 kids and recently divorced. I don't want to date anyone who also has kids as I agree, it can be a hassle and over complicate things. Having said that you never know who you might meet and fall in love with, then you find a way. Maybe you're slightly overthinking things? Meet someone you like first!

Histrionicz · 30/08/2020 00:22

So don’t date them, then.

MayDayHelp · 30/08/2020 00:22

You’ll probably get some hate for your post but it’s your choice, dating people with kids isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. You’re young enough that you should have plenty of options. Give it another 10 years and you’ll find most women looking to date will already have kids.

icriedsohard · 30/08/2020 00:23

I'm a married mum of 2DC and I totally get what you mean.

Dating a lady who has children would entail being involved in family life with her children and not just her.

From what you have explained you sound like you are doing well in life and there are many single mums holding down a career too.

I don't think your selfish, some men wouldn't think twice about the kids but it's how you feel and you shouldn't be made to feel you have to justify it.

Everyone had their own opinions and if it's not something you want to get involved in then do be it.

Wish you all the best!!

ForrestTrump · 30/08/2020 00:24

I don't think you're unreasonable to want to find somebody who lives a similar lifestyle to yourself.

LadyLairdArgyll · 30/08/2020 00:24

You are being honest, nothing wrong with that.

WorraLiberty · 30/08/2020 00:26

I honestly only bothered reading half of that because you're young, you've got your whole life ahead of you. You can date whoever you want.

Surely you know that?

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 30/08/2020 00:27

YANBU. It’s right that you have the insight to recognise you are too selfish to date a woman with children. Do you see yourself having your own children in the future? It doesn’t sound like you’d be remotely ready for it. The single, childless women of your age may be wanting to have children in the next few years. Don’t waste their time if that’s not for you. Find someone who’s on the same page as you.

Nsky · 30/08/2020 00:27

Totally reasonable

Shodan · 30/08/2020 00:27

It's not for you, and that's perfectly fine.

Everyone has their own preferences for dating, and no-one is selfish for having them.

This is just one of yours.

MarthasGinYard · 30/08/2020 00:29

Why do you feel you have to justify your choice?

When I was single I never dated men with dc. Ever.

jay55 · 30/08/2020 00:29

It isn't selfish to not date women with kids.

It would be selfish to date women with kids and expect them to fit into your lifestyle.

If would be selfish to lead on a woman with kids and dump her when she was ready to introduce them to you.

We all have things that are on our no list.

KenAdams · 30/08/2020 00:30

Reasonable - much better for you to state that upfront.

Stripesgalore · 30/08/2020 00:31

If you are only just thirty and have a stable job, surely there are many women who haven’t got kids who would want to be in a relationship with you.

SaltyAndFresh · 30/08/2020 00:32

Why are you asking? You're free to choose, it's up to you (but I think you've answered your own question).

SD1978 · 30/08/2020 00:32

So don't. I'm not quite sure what response you are hoping for from a parenting site, saying you don't want to date a parent. Do what you want (and whom you want). And good luck with it.

TheHappyHerbivore · 30/08/2020 00:32

It’s totally your choice, you don’t need to justify it. You also sound like you would be a nightmare partner for anyone who had kids, so you’re doing single mothers a favour by removing yourself preemptively from the dating pool.

InglouriousBasterd · 30/08/2020 00:34

Date who you want, obviously. A couple of my male friends also had that stipulation and are still single 15 years later, mind, so maybe keep an open mind.

newnameforthis123 · 30/08/2020 00:34

Females! Martin, is that you? Grin

I'm a woman and I also don't date people with children as I don't feel equipped to make a blended family / step parenting work. Maybe I would have met someone who changed my mind by chance but I didn't actively choose to date people with kids.

I think as long as you're honest about it then it's totally reasonable.

Angelina82 · 30/08/2020 00:35

Those women were ridiculous to call you selfish for not wanting to date women with children, and you don’t need to justify yourself to them or to anyone else your reasons why.

Merryoldgoat · 30/08/2020 00:36

I think you’re being very sensible to have thought it through. It wound be actually selfish to be involved with a single parent and not be interested in her children or willing to accommodate them.

To be honest if I were ever single again I don’t think I’d bother dating at all. Kids are all consuming and I just couldn’t be bothered.

Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches · 30/08/2020 00:37

You’re not unreasonable to date, or not date, whoever you want. That’s perfectly fine.

I’m just not quite sure why you’re telling/ asking us about it. Why would the opinion of strangers on the internet matter? Why would it be anyone’s business but yours who you choose to date?

Hope you find the person of your dreams anyway!

DangerMouse17 · 30/08/2020 00:39

You seem to make some strange generalizations about single mothers. I've never been to Butlins or Hungry Horse...and my child doesnt create havoc because he's well behaved. Hmm

You've just come here to bash single mothers in my view. You can date who you want, no need to create a thread about it.

Oh and it's totally ok. We dont want you. Grin

Spanielmadness · 30/08/2020 00:40

I’ve never dated men with kids. It just doesn’t do it for me. Ex’s causing problems, kids running into the bedroom........ no thanks.

Osirus · 30/08/2020 00:40

I’m married with a child but I completely agree with you. Children will always come first and that doesn’t always work with a new relationship.

If I ever end up a single parent I don’t think I would even bother dating until my child was much older. It’s hassle and heartbreak all round.

It can work sometimes, but it’s not easy.

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