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AIBU / Selfish to not want to date a single Mum?

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jimmyjammy001 · 30/08/2020 00:16

I am a Male just turned 30, single for couple years, never married, no kids, own house, good job, having drinks with friends tonight and dating subject came up, none of which are dating people who allready have kids, I said not really anyone suitable on online dating as they have children and that is not what I want from a long term relationship, a couple of them (females) said that I am selfish for not dating women who allready have children.

I have done in the past, but it never worked out for me, I allways found it alot of hassle/problematic/dramas. I have met some genuinely nice women but unfortunately it comes down to the kids getting in the way for it not working out, if they were childless then I could see a future.

Some examples are:

Nights in with them and their children causing havoc, not what I or I think any bloke would want on a date night.

I would have to plan my lifestyle around their childcare arrangements, I do shift work and can have Mon, Tues and weds off but they might only have Thurs eve free for a few hours so I would rearrange shifts and then just as the date is going well they will look at their watch and be like it's half 8 I have to go back and relieve the babysitter and put the kids to bed. I like the dates where we can just sit back have drinks til like 11/12 after food then go back to one of our houses.

Holidays have allways been a no go, can only go during summer holidays and pay 4 times the price to somewhere like butlins, never can have weekends away just 2 of us, or last minute date nights, everything has to be planned weeks in advance so childcare can be arranged and sometimes their kids will go sick on the night which means date cancelled.

I want someone who can come out late with me and my friends and not have to dash off early each week and can do couple things as well. If I stay out then it causes arguments.

Staying over theres and usually have their kids jumping up and down on the bed in the morning, not fun!

Weekends if the kids are with them, we have to goto pepper pig World for the day or some animal adventure park and then go to hungry horse and eat rubbish food as it is a child friendly place and listen to kids running around screaming their heads off. Or watch them play football for a few hours, or dance practice. Non of which I can stand.

I suppose as a male with no children I have alot more time on my hands to go and do things on my days off, go on holidays outside of term time, nights and weekends away, camping, playing sports, non of which women with children that I have been with can do, it just allways feels like I am a part time boyfriend as only get to see them once or maybe twice a week, otherwise they are just to busy. I understand their kids need to allways come first and I will allways be second, would just much rather be with someone where we are both each others no 1 and can start a family from scratch not a ready made one.

Looking at longer term one or two I have been with rely heavily on benefits, I don't think I could live with someone else and their kids it would probably drive me insane and also being step dad, but also they're benefits would get recalculated if we were to move in together taking my salary into account which means they would not receive any benefit money and I would have to subsidize / give them over £1000 a month out of my take-home pay, which I really can't see as fair?

Then there is the dramas of the ex, as there is a reason they are not together, so you have to offer sympathy all of the time and agree with them when they talk negatively about the ex, birthdays and Xmas is allways very complicated, where kids should be having to pick them up from different places.

What is quite annoying/hilarious is that some womens dating profiles who have children genuinely can't understand what problems their kids bring to a relationship and will say my kids are my world and if your not man enough to handle them swipe left or it's your problem if you don't like my kids, they will get very defensive and hostile as soon as I mention that I am not interested due to the kids if they have not mentioned they have any previously.

In my opinion the cons far outweigh the pros, Surely I can't be unreasonable for not wanting any of this hassle? My own happiness should be paramount in a relationship, not just get into one to make someone else happy.

OP posts:
Dontforgetyourbrolly · 31/08/2020 08:21

Date who you want no one really cares . I'm a bit confused why you needed to post a long explanation on a parenting forum ?

malificent7 · 31/08/2020 08:25

Yanbu...i was a single mum and I don't blame you ( especially the not wanting to be jumped on in the morning by kids bit.)

aquashiv · 31/08/2020 08:30

Course not. At your age i would feel the same. Not sure why you'd post this question on MN Though rather goady...

Advicewouldbeappreciated · 31/08/2020 08:34

Fine but why bother to post all of that to women with children-I am sure none of us are sat crying and devastated because you wont date us Hmm

ClementineWoolysocks · 31/08/2020 08:38

No, you're not selfish and it's ridiculous of anyone to suggest you are. You don't have to take on someone else's children if you don't want to.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 31/08/2020 08:44

I totally agree with you, OP. If I were you I'd put in your profile that you are only interested in women without children. There must be plenty out there who don't have/don't want children who are looking for an a partner/fun/just enjoying company of men.

Ablackrussian · 31/08/2020 08:45

Date who the fuck you want.

Problem solved.

TeaOneSugar · 31/08/2020 08:47

I was in my mid 40s when I was last single and wouldn't have dated a man who had small children full time, and definitely wouldn't have dated a man who had small children full time and was reliant on benefits. I was a full time single parent at the time and no way did I want to be raising someone someone else's toddler, been there done that.

Bajalaluna · 31/08/2020 08:48

I have two young DC, and I don't think you're unreasonable op. Kids change everything, and you've made the decision to not have any yet, so shouldn't have to live a completely different lifestyle for someone else's choices. Some people are happy to completely change their lives to settle down with someone who already has children, and that's great, but it certainly wouldn't suit everyone. Before I met dh and we had our kids, I would not have pursued a relationship with anyone if I found out they already had children. I'd we now split, and I decided to date again, I would probably look for someone who already has children, as it would be far easier to relate to someone in a similar circumstance. I just wouldn't have wanted that responsibility before I'd chosen to have children myself. It's entirely your decision and not selfish in the slightest.

Dontassume2020 · 31/08/2020 08:48

It sounds like you're getting your JimmyJammy's in a twist.

Relax a little..

TheTrollFairy · 31/08/2020 08:49

I don’t see the issue.
Before I had a kid, I wouldn’t have dated a guy who had kids even though I wanted them because I wanted to go through the whole pregnancy, baby stage etc with someone else and both experience it at the same time.
Now I have a kid, I would potentially date someone with kids but I understand why someone without kids wouldn’t want to date me because I had one

Pinkmakeupbag · 31/08/2020 08:49

Seriously I couldn't even be arsed reading half of that.

Date/don't date who the fuck you want. It's your life.

Why do you need to come into a parenting forum and list all the problems of women with children? Why do we care?

user1471466920 · 31/08/2020 09:02

Absolutely not selfish, you’re young so I can see why you wouldn’t want to get tied down with kids that aren’t your own. One day you may have your own kids but and that’s a completely different scenario, for now enjoy carefree dating.

AllRightEsther · 31/08/2020 09:03

W*hy do you need to come into a parenting forum and list all the problems of women with children? Why do you care?
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And there is the crux of it. He wants you to care.

I had the best single mother anyone could ask for, taking care of us when our father fucked off. Doing all she could.

Some awful responses from women too, like Bez91, how does she know her relationship won't go tits up at some point? The arrogance astounds me.

Itsallpointless · 31/08/2020 09:20

@awesmum that is hilariousGrinisn't he a wonderful human being, bet Mum is proud of himHmm

Shot himself in the foot there, hopefully, childless women with integrity will give him a wide berth.

Girls..dodge that bullet..

niceupthedance · 31/08/2020 09:20

Take my advice: don't have children.

aSofaNearYou · 31/08/2020 09:25

I think people are missing the obvious point of this thread. The thing that compelled OP to post was his friend's reactions. MN was a logical to post because he wanted to hear an explanation from people who might have a similar viewpoint to his friends. He obviously lacks self awareness and the post was tactless, but regardless of that it's fairly obvious why he posted here and he's right, his friend's perspective that it is selfish not to want to date someone with kids is absolutely batshit.

Pinkmakeupbag · 31/08/2020 10:05

I think people are missing the obvious point of this thread. The thing that compelled OP to post was his friend's reactions. MN was a logical to post because he wanted to hear an explanation from people who might have a similar viewpoint to his friends. He obviously lacks self awareness and the post was tactless, but regardless of that it's fairly obvious why he posted here and he's right, his friend's perspective that it is selfish not to want to date someone with kids is absolutely batshit.

It's not selfish to choose who you do/don't want to date.

It's pretty pathetic to come onto a parenting forum, and list all the stereotypes you believe are shit about the lives of single parents.

Anyhow, you never know how your life is going to turn out. I was a single mum, ex loved to berate me and tell me no one would look twice at me (for all the reasons op listed). Always slated his friends who dated single parents. Funnily enough I'm happily married 12 years. He's on his third relationship with a woman with 3 dc.

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