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AIBU / Selfish to not want to date a single Mum?

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jimmyjammy001 · 30/08/2020 00:16

I am a Male just turned 30, single for couple years, never married, no kids, own house, good job, having drinks with friends tonight and dating subject came up, none of which are dating people who allready have kids, I said not really anyone suitable on online dating as they have children and that is not what I want from a long term relationship, a couple of them (females) said that I am selfish for not dating women who allready have children.

I have done in the past, but it never worked out for me, I allways found it alot of hassle/problematic/dramas. I have met some genuinely nice women but unfortunately it comes down to the kids getting in the way for it not working out, if they were childless then I could see a future.

Some examples are:

Nights in with them and their children causing havoc, not what I or I think any bloke would want on a date night.

I would have to plan my lifestyle around their childcare arrangements, I do shift work and can have Mon, Tues and weds off but they might only have Thurs eve free for a few hours so I would rearrange shifts and then just as the date is going well they will look at their watch and be like it's half 8 I have to go back and relieve the babysitter and put the kids to bed. I like the dates where we can just sit back have drinks til like 11/12 after food then go back to one of our houses.

Holidays have allways been a no go, can only go during summer holidays and pay 4 times the price to somewhere like butlins, never can have weekends away just 2 of us, or last minute date nights, everything has to be planned weeks in advance so childcare can be arranged and sometimes their kids will go sick on the night which means date cancelled.

I want someone who can come out late with me and my friends and not have to dash off early each week and can do couple things as well. If I stay out then it causes arguments.

Staying over theres and usually have their kids jumping up and down on the bed in the morning, not fun!

Weekends if the kids are with them, we have to goto pepper pig World for the day or some animal adventure park and then go to hungry horse and eat rubbish food as it is a child friendly place and listen to kids running around screaming their heads off. Or watch them play football for a few hours, or dance practice. Non of which I can stand.

I suppose as a male with no children I have alot more time on my hands to go and do things on my days off, go on holidays outside of term time, nights and weekends away, camping, playing sports, non of which women with children that I have been with can do, it just allways feels like I am a part time boyfriend as only get to see them once or maybe twice a week, otherwise they are just to busy. I understand their kids need to allways come first and I will allways be second, would just much rather be with someone where we are both each others no 1 and can start a family from scratch not a ready made one.

Looking at longer term one or two I have been with rely heavily on benefits, I don't think I could live with someone else and their kids it would probably drive me insane and also being step dad, but also they're benefits would get recalculated if we were to move in together taking my salary into account which means they would not receive any benefit money and I would have to subsidize / give them over £1000 a month out of my take-home pay, which I really can't see as fair?

Then there is the dramas of the ex, as there is a reason they are not together, so you have to offer sympathy all of the time and agree with them when they talk negatively about the ex, birthdays and Xmas is allways very complicated, where kids should be having to pick them up from different places.

What is quite annoying/hilarious is that some womens dating profiles who have children genuinely can't understand what problems their kids bring to a relationship and will say my kids are my world and if your not man enough to handle them swipe left or it's your problem if you don't like my kids, they will get very defensive and hostile as soon as I mention that I am not interested due to the kids if they have not mentioned they have any previously.

In my opinion the cons far outweigh the pros, Surely I can't be unreasonable for not wanting any of this hassle? My own happiness should be paramount in a relationship, not just get into one to make someone else happy.

OP posts:
Merlotmum85 · 30/08/2020 14:47

I was a single mum for years and completely agree!

Port1aCastis · 30/08/2020 14:48

My own happiness should be paramount well you crack on love don't worry about whether you're making someone else happy will you!!

YouJustDoYou · 30/08/2020 14:50

I have three kids. I wouldn't date someone with kids, lol. Just a personal thing. My lovely BIL got dumped because he had to prioritise the kids. It's not for everyone, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Evelyn92 · 30/08/2020 14:56

Also, what single guy in their 30s posts on Mumsnet on a Saturday night, or even joins Mumsnet Grin

barkingmadmother · 30/08/2020 14:59

Why are you on Mumsnet telling us all? Sounds like BS to me

SD1978 · 30/08/2020 15:00

It's always telling when someone tries to be contentious and never returns.....

WhoisRebecca · 30/08/2020 15:01

I was a single mum - engaged now. I wasn’t on benefits and earned twice the national average. Work in education so term time hols were always out anyway! In the early stages of a relationship my kids and partner were separate, as it should be.

I am confused about why women are taking you on trips with their kids to peppa pig world - if you weren’t serious about being involved with a women with kids then you shouldn’t have been meeting the kids or going on day trips with them!

You don’t need permission not to date someone, for whatever reason you choose.

damnthatanxiety · 30/08/2020 15:09

[quote DangerMouse17]@damnthatanxiety not angry at all Hmm
I take umbrage with a guy who thinks its acceptable to come onto a parenting site dominated by women and inform all single mothers how unattractive they are as prospects. Thanks for the support "sis".[/quote]
Supporting women does not equate 'supporting all and any views' just because they are made by women. Sis.

TheGoogleMum · 30/08/2020 15:14

I think its best to be honest, if you dont want to be in a relationship with someone who already has kids then thats a reasonable preference in my opinion. I have a friend who recently left a long term relationship so is now 29 and looking to date. She isnt interested in men with kids! Which again i think is totally fair enough. She loves my DD but has no kids of her own and no interest in being a step parent (she might have her own kids one day but doesn't feel all that strongly about it)

PinkiOcelot · 30/08/2020 15:21

I don’t blame you tbh. Totally your choice.

Sometimes it’s hard enough with your own children, never mind someone else’s.

netflixismysidehustle · 30/08/2020 15:29

Yanbu

If you're just 30 there's plenty of women without children in your dating pool

claireyjs · 30/08/2020 15:34

I'm a single mum and I totally get where you're coming from and would respect your honesty

Dominicgoings · 30/08/2020 15:40

I dated as a single mum and got to the point where I would never, ever consider dating a man who didn’t have kids and who had never been in a long term relationship ( engaged/married or living with someone)

Too immature, too selfish and likely to be the sort of sad sack trolling a parenting website on a Saturday night Wink

FOKKYFC · 30/08/2020 15:40

@MarkRuffaloCrumble

I wouldn't date you because you're labouring under the delusion that that ^ is how 'always' and 'a lot' are spelt. Grin

I was thinking I’d have written him off for those things too! I fell for my DP before I even met him because he used the right “your/you’re” in his first message to me. Low bar I know Grin

Life’s rich tapestry indeed.

Grin
Burnthurst187 · 30/08/2020 15:44

I agree with everything you've said OP

PinkSparkleUnicorns · 30/08/2020 16:00

@jimmyjammy001 any thoughts? Or have you returned back to under the bridge?

teraculum29 · 30/08/2020 18:57

@aprilanne

The first thing that strikes me is a single man with no children posting on mumsnet sorry but that's wierd
How single, childless man even knew about this site?isn't it?
DarkmilkAddict · 30/08/2020 19:02

Definite wind-up and punching down on single mums

What a charmer

JBEM4 · 30/08/2020 20:59

I respect and admire your honesty however would you feel the same way if you settled down, had a child and seperated?

I have been a single parent twice and not through choice. You'd have beenlucky to date me to be honest. I make children almost as epic as me 😜

BubblyBarbara · 30/08/2020 21:24

You sound immature and not very nice to me. There are a lot of amazing single mothers out there and it’s not always their fault. There is having a preference and then there is just balls faced discrimination.

awesmum · 30/08/2020 21:31

Genuinely don't care who you do or don't date. But saw this and it made me chuckle - is it you OP?

AIBU / Selfish to not want to date a single Mum?
Receptionwoes · 30/08/2020 23:21

Ooh look who never came back 🙄

JulesCobb · 30/08/2020 23:23

@Receptionwoes

Ooh look who never came back 🙄
Exactly. Can’t believe this goady thread hasnt been zapped since op didnt come back.
popcornlover · 31/08/2020 06:15

Are you surprised though that he didn’t come back? Surely if he was a troll he would have enjoyed winding you all up more. I think you’ve all let yourselves be goaded. He wasn’t being unreasonable. He’s only 30, and being a step parent at that age isn’t really something most people would desire.

Ignomen · 31/08/2020 08:19

But virtually no one suggested he was in the least unreasonable not to want to date someone with children. They just pointed out his post made him sound like an utter knob, so it was probably a moot point anyway.

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