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AIBU to feel absolutely insulted by this

180 replies

MadameBee · 20/08/2020 22:55

Suggested to my ex husband that for our DDs 21st birthday we got her citizenship and passport for the country he is from.

No reply.

He decides to do it himself which is fine, I got her another gift.

Tonight she came round with the forms for me to sign. Her stepmother had filled them all in but only allowed her to bring around the last page of the form as she had filled in all DDs details.

I signed the declaration which declares any false information can result in imprisonment or a £250,000 fine.

I haven’t seen what info has been put on the form and DD asked me not to date my signature which I refused to do and dated it.

AIBU to feel this is fucking insulting (as if I had refused to sign this would have massively upset DD but did not want to sign form I haven’t seen all the info in).

That’s unreasonable isn’t it?

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NCParanoia · 20/08/2020 22:58

Your issue isn't with signing the form, the issue is clearly with your ex-husband going ahead with the passport thing and taking credit. I think YABU wrt the form thing.. its his patronage, therefore its up to him to sort it out. Seems like your picking apart the tiny details to find a problem.

MadameBee · 20/08/2020 23:00

I have been asked to sign a legal document I have only seen the back page of.

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katy1213 · 20/08/2020 23:00

IF she's 21, why isn't she filling in forms for herself?
You'd have been better teaching your daughter that you never sign your name to anything without reading it first. Why would she have been massively upset about bringing the form back another time?

slipperywhensparticus · 20/08/2020 23:01

So you could face imprisonment if they fuck it up?

Yes thats insane

MadameBee · 20/08/2020 23:02

Both your parents have to sign it.

Her father encouraged her to forge my signature and she refused.

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vipersputpaidtomylastusername · 20/08/2020 23:02

Yep, I would have been very uneasy at signing şomething I hadn't seen. Not unreasonable at all.

theconstantinoplegardener · 20/08/2020 23:03

I agree with you, OP. It puts you in an impossible position and emotionally blackmails you into doing something illegal.

1Morewineplease · 20/08/2020 23:04

Oh dear.
Never sign any form that you haven’t read.

ChickensMightFly · 20/08/2020 23:06

I certainly wouldn't sign something to be true and correct in detail if I couldn't see it. I was taught properly and it has stood me in good stead many times. However some, like one of the pp here think that's unnecessary, so, is irritating but if just be calmly saying it'll be signed as soon as you can see what you're signing properly and sign post daughter for how to handle that conversation etc if you think she'd need that. Explain to her why it matters.
They may just be being lax and seeing nothing wrong with that rather than deliberately doing it. Just handle it and get it done properly. No big deal unless you make it one. DD can be helped to understand I'm sure

FinnyStory · 20/08/2020 23:06

You shouldn't sign something you haven't seen but I'm not sure why you're insulted by it or why you had to do it to avoid upsetting DD. Surely you just ask her to come back with the complete document?

I agree with PP you should absolutely have taught DD that you never, ever sign something you haven't read ......and to fill her own forms in.

Alexandernevermind · 20/08/2020 23:06

I dont understand why you would sign something without seeing the whole form. What are they trying to hide?

picklemewalnuts · 20/08/2020 23:07

I think you have to say:

"Sweetheart, I want this for you so very much- that's why I suggested it to your dad. Obviously as this is a declaration about the accuracy of the information on the form, I do just need to see it first. I'd hate you to think it's ok to sign documents you haven't seen."

shrill · 20/08/2020 23:07

@1Morewineplease

Oh dear. Never sign any form that you haven’t read.
Can't stress this enough! It could would also teach your Dd a valuable lesson.
CoRhona · 20/08/2020 23:08

I would not have signed it and I would have told DD why. That was so unfair on you.

IWantT0BreakFree · 20/08/2020 23:10

Well obviously you should have said "sorry, DD but I'm not signing an extremely important legal form that I haven't even seen. If you bring me the document to check I'll have a read and sign it." End of. No discussions or drama required. I have no idea why you signed it. Your daughter is a grown women and besides the fact she should be capable of filling in these forms without her stepmother's assistance (I guess there would be certain bits of info she would need from her dad/you), she is about 15 years too old to be "massively upset" at something like this.

IWantT0BreakFree · 20/08/2020 23:11

*grown woman

Ontheboardwalk · 20/08/2020 23:12

Agree never sign anything you haven’t read in full

Recently had will and POA needed signing for relative. Under lockdown the witnesses took the forms into their house to read fully then did socially distanced signing. I’d have done exactly the same

Not sure what you can do now you've signed now

MadameBee · 20/08/2020 23:12

Her stepmother is a manipulative bitch who always pulls shit like this and then I get accused of causing “drama”.

Which DD did tonight.

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RiteAid · 20/08/2020 23:14

You shouldn’t have signed it. It’s a bad lesson for your daughter apart from anything else. Next time, explain why you can’t sign a legal document without having actually read the thing first.

Boireannachlaidir · 20/08/2020 23:14

You're the parent here so why are you worrying about "upsetting" a nearly 21 yo DD and doing something as stupid as putting your signature on a form you've not read?

Better to let your child be "upset" than teach them that you are willing to sign forms you've not read.

MadameBee · 20/08/2020 23:20

I am more angry that he encouraged her to forge my signature.

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FinnyStory · 20/08/2020 23:21

DD accused you of causing drama, so you signed a legal document without seeing it?

Nice lesson for her there and really, how was that SM's fault?

latticechaos · 20/08/2020 23:22

@MadameBee

I have been asked to sign a legal document I have only seen the back page of.
I would have refused to sign.
MrsHound · 20/08/2020 23:27

I cant believe you were daft enough to sign a form you haven't read!

LirBan · 20/08/2020 23:28

@MadameBee

I have been asked to sign a legal document I have only seen the back page of.
YANBU and the fact that it's your x husband is irrelevant. I wouldn't sign Page 2 of anything I hadn't seen the first page of, not even if the penalty was not so severe! YANBU