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to ask what you think-30 year old virgin

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username108 · 10/08/2020 14:26

Do you know anyone who is an older virgin? Do you think its really odd for someone to still be a virgin at 30?

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AryaStarkWolf · 10/08/2020 17:03

Do people actually announce that they're virgins? I mean none of my close friends were virgins at that age but I don't go round asking people about their sex lives often Grin

GrimDamnFanjo · 10/08/2020 17:03

It would worry me more if they hadn't had a relationship at any level at that age.
Why not? Do they have close friends? What's their family like together?
Not finding the right person is different to not engaging on an emotional level with anyone previously.

NameChange84 · 10/08/2020 17:07

I’m 36 and it hasn’t happened for me. I like men, I have a successful life outwardly, I’m physically perfectly normal (some might say even say attractive) and I’d like to have sex but...there we go. I’ve kissed but not much else. Certainly no sexual contact. But I am a sexual being despite this, with needs, wants, desires etc.

I didn’t get asked on my first date until I was almost 30. The only relationship I’ve ever had was with a man who was also an older virgin and he wasn’t able to have sex with me. Literally threw me out the bed several times. That certainly went a long way to screwing up my already fragile sense of self worth!

I think with me the biggest factor has been lack of opportunity/love but also;

Very strict, religious and non British family for whom sex before marriage and/or living with anyone before marriage was a very very shameful thing.

Childhood emotional and physical abuse resulted in me having a lot of shame and feelings of not being worthy of love or affection.

Horrendously bullied by boys from 12-15. I couldn’t imagine anyone wanting me.

Only approached by much older men (Dad/Grandad age).

Not much of a clubber. Worked hard through uni and only socialised in mainly female circles with hobbies etc.

Being scared of online dating/ approaching men first. I guess I just thought they wouldn’t want me anyway...and maybe I still see myself as quite unlovable.

No one at all knows I’m a virgin outside of immediate family. Although it’s weird, a lot of people seem to think I’m a, in the words of one friend, “goer” Blush and I’m often approached and asked for sex advice by both female and male friends. Anytime I’ve genuinely tried to tell them I’m a virgin they’ve laughed and just wouldn’t believe me and thought it was a joke.

There’ve been a couple of times fairly recently when I could have had one night stands with some really attractive men whilst away on business and no one would have known and I would never have seen the man again but...it just felt a bit pointless. So someone would have put his penis in my vagina and I could say “oh, well, that’s sex ticked off the bucket list” but..so what? I wouldn’t actually have achieved anything close to what I want.

I want a relationship and intimacy and a fulfilling sex life with someone that I share mutual love and affection with.

And no one has offered that to me to date. A few men have wanted to get me drunk and fuck me but, forgive me, I don’t see that as much of an offer. And I’m so much more than my virginal status. It doesn’t make me any less of a person.

I do still hope I’ll meet someone good, who genuinely loves me and I won’t die having missed out on it all. The worst thing is obviously now it’s getting late for biological kids and I always wanted to conceive, be pregnant, give birth and all of that so that’s kind of heartbreaking. But...we’ve all got some cross to bear in life so there you go.

It’s not that rare. I can think of three “party girl” friends of mine who were older virgins (over 25). One was terrified any time someone tried to sleep with her and just got very tense and was able to relax enough, despite being pretty and popular. She’s married now but she was late 20s before it all worked out for her. Another was stunning, a professional dancer and really quite sexy/sultry. No one asked her out and it knocked her confidence. She was also quite religious. I think she was 29/30 before she met her now husband who was smitten and adored her. Another lived in a very rural, isolated place, stayed at home instead of going to university, wasn’t considered physically attractive by most people, had a lot of anger and other emotional difficulties. She was a late bloomer but in the space of about two years slept around a lot in one night stand/FWB situations then got married to the first guy who ever took her on a date who she met online. I don’t think you’d guess any of them, or I, were older virgins. It’s probably more common than most people realise.

As a generation we kind of suck at dating! If you aren’t wanting casual sex and you’re not confident in your own lovableness then it’s scarily easy to find yourself in this situation.

nevertheknowing · 10/08/2020 17:11

I know someone who is almost 50, never had a relationship and almost certainly a virgin. He's a really nice guy too. Not gay. Not religious. Just terrible at attracting women.

IsaLain · 10/08/2020 17:11

I dont know anyone who has told me they are a virgin. I could know a hundred and just not be aware.

The only person I knew growing up who was super religious and absolutely not going to have sex until marriage ended up having sex when we were 19 with a man who was engaged to a girl we were friends with in school. So that's my yard stick for religious 'I wont have sex' people.

Sakura7 · 10/08/2020 17:12

@PenCreed

Some people just don't meet anyone and aren't casual about sex - even without being religious. I think it's possibly more common than you would expect, as people seem to regard it as weird. This thread is a case in point.
I agree with this. I have a friend in this situation, she's 35 and has never been in a serious relationship. She's not interested in casual sex so she's still a virgin. She's not weird, she's a perfectly well rounded individual. I definitely think it's more common than people would expect, nobody shouts from the rooftops that they're a virgin (regardless what age).
Malaya · 10/08/2020 17:15

My cousin was a virgin until she was 34, which is when she got married. She isn’t religious but didn’t meet anyone until she was 32 and it moved pretty quickly to marriage. They then decided, as she’d waited so long anyway, they’d just wait until their wedding day.

My aunt was a virgin her whole life. She passed away at 72 years old and had never even had a boyfriend. She wasn’t interested in that at all.

Staffy1 · 10/08/2020 17:15

No, I don't think it's odd. I think it's more odd that most of the responses to a thread about a 16 year old meeting someone for sex were along the lines of "so what, all 16 year olds have sex".

Gubbeen · 10/08/2020 17:17

I'm more interested in how you all know for sure that these people are virgins.

SpillTheTeaa · 10/08/2020 17:20

A woman I worked with didn't loose her virginity until 32. Personal choice I suppose.

motherheroic · 10/08/2020 17:23

It is what it is.

Whenwillthisbeover · 10/08/2020 17:24

Odd is unfair. I strongly suspect my 57 year old DB is one, but he has mild learning difficulties and I suspect this wouldn't be through choice, just the shit stick he was dealt with in life.

BearSoFair · 10/08/2020 17:30

Not odd at all. One of my closest friends is 32 and a virgin, she just isn't fussed. I'd say she might be asexual but I honestly don't think she thinks about it enough to give it a label, she just hasn't found anyone and isn't particularly interested in looking. Very caring as a friend, thoughtful, puts others first...so I wouldn't even think it was necessarily a red flag about someone on it's own, I'd assume they just haven't been fussed about it.

Greydove28 · 10/08/2020 17:30

I work with someone and he is 57 and a virgin. He is v religious amd would not do it before marriage and marriage never happened. He said its one of his lufe regrets. Ive told him its not too late but he thinks it is.

Cheeseandwin5 · 10/08/2020 17:31

I am shocked by the replies. Just because he is a virgin doesn't mean he has MH issues or is a woman hater or all the other stuff posters seem to want to blame him for.
If a poster came on saying the lady he was interested in had slept with as 10 men and wasn't that odd, ppl would be saying he should mind his own business and that it was sexist claptrap.
If your like him, I suggest you find out more about him, if this is the only 'hangup' you have than ask him.
Obviously then you may have to tell how men you have slept with and let him judge you you

Peachypips78 · 10/08/2020 17:31

My best friend married last year at 43 and was a virgin (Christian, no sex before marriage). She is now pregnant with her first baby. It's wonderful!

I was also a virgin when I married but was 24. No regrets whatsoever.

speakout · 10/08/2020 17:32

Not any of my business.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/08/2020 17:33

Me too, Gubbeen. I don't think I've ever asked anyone outright if they were a virgin and no-one's ever asked me. I haven't ever been one for talking about my private life much so in conversation with friends when a lot younger I didn't ever discuss my sex life in that much detail with them. If anyone had asked how old I was when I lost my virginity I may have just said "Ah, that's my own business, I don't gossip about my sex life". There will be people who have been sexually abused when younger, I would never put them in a position where they would feel expected to discuss past sexual experiences.

I think a lot of people also have bodily hangups. Some people have physical defects which reduce their self-confidence and make them think they would be unattractive to the opposite sex. eg some women don't grow out of the teenage acne phase and are literally afraid of someone getting close to their face for fear of repulsing them. Same with other things like a struggle with excess body hair or excess sweating. You can do some things to mitigate physical problems like that but for some people they're having to put their physical self out there knowing that it is way less than "body beautiful".

I think that must be worse these days when programmes like Naked Attraction show perfect looking hairless super confident men and women. I don't think I've ever seen anyone on that programme with an "apron" and bad stretch marks. Or a third nipple or something. If you have something like that to deal with, you do risk getting naked in front of someone or having them touch you and be visibly repulsed. That must knock someone's confidence. Maybe it's the thought of it rather than it actually happening that puts some people off getting intimate with people.

SweetBillie · 10/08/2020 17:34

I don't think it's a problem to be an older virgin. There are lots of reasons why people don't have intimate relationships in their younger years. I do remember the peer pressure in my teens though, and the word virgin was used as an insult - this was in the 70's.

Confrontayshunme · 10/08/2020 17:34

I think it's no weirder than thinking it's okay and normal for losing their virginity at 16. In fact, one is a lot healthier and no worries for STI's! And it is no measure of experience either. Some people who have bedded 60 girls since 13 are grim to be partners with.

Sakura7 · 10/08/2020 17:34

Most people have had sex by the time they are 18

I'm not sure that's true actually. I remember reading about a study on these types of surveys and they were found to be inaccurate for two reasons:

  1. Many teenagers don't like admitting that they are a virgin, especially by their late teens. So they lie.
  1. Even if everyone tells the truth, the average age will skew younger because it's impossible to include the ages of the people who are still virgins. You're dealing with a limited data set.

I know in my group of school friends, only one (out of six of us) had lost their virginity by the time they turned 18.

username108 · 10/08/2020 17:35

The person i'm asking about is me- i'm almost 30 and never had a relationship or sex, nothing at all. I spent all my teen years and early 20s as a hermit and had no friends. I don't drink and i'm not interested in clubbing etc. I had a difficult childhood which makes me fear intimacy and i feel a lot of shame about it. I'm autistic and have bpd so have a lot of issues/not much going for me. I also fear rejection so would rather just not borther than risk that as it would be unbearable.

I have started speakign to a guy online for the last 6 months- he has autism too. We are going to meet up soon and although I'm not attracted to him that much, he is a nice person and i don't think he would reject me. I have nobody else otherwise so it's now or never. Luckily he's also a virgin (he's 23) so it wont be too weird.

I've never had a job and i'm not able to work- life is a daily struggle for me due to my problems and I know not many guys would be interested for that alone. I can't even drive due to my bpd and autism. I just hope when I meet up with this guy that it goes well. If not I will probably just try to make peace with being by myself for the rest of my life. I really didn't want my life to be this way but I feel like the odds have been stacked against me in all areas.

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Flibbitygibbit · 10/08/2020 17:37

And ???

Skyliner001 · 10/08/2020 17:41

No, not in the habit of judging people.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/08/2020 17:42

OP: re: not finding him that attractive, sometimes that comes with spending time together in person.

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