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AIBU to think someone should be helping Kanye West??

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BanditoShipman · 20/07/2020 13:07

I’m not a Dr but looking at the speech Kanye West gave last night, he is clearly unwell. Shouldn’t somebody be looking after him, checking his medication, keeping him away from events etc until he is better??

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Lifeisgenerallyfun · 21/07/2020 09:00

Unfortunately I feel sorry for many famous people in this regard - they are surrounded by people who have little interest in their mental health. The type of spot light put on these people, treating their lives like some sort of zoo or freak show is never going to do them any good.

Look at Amy Winehouse constantly taken out of restaurant front doors, completely wasted (often by her own father) rather than discretely carries out through the kitchens.

Unfortunately the type of people attracted to fame these days (and it is often the fame and fortune they are attracted to rather than the need to create/perform etc) are often precisely the type of people easily manipulated by others and least able to cope with the consequences. What we are often seeing with famous people is a facade, a persona facing the world for the usually material benefit of others. The facade is disposable, it doesn’t matter if these people fall off their pedestal into the fiery pits of media hell. No one is going to save the likes of Kanye, to many the more of a freak show he presents the better, because this is what many now see as entertainment, something to fuel the gossip pages.

People think watching The Kardashians, Love Island - all “reality“ TV is harmless fun, but the culture it has created, with expectations so far removed from reality has created a lot of harm both for individuals and society.

So no, no one will help Kanye, because the people who have the power to do this have no incentive to (except maybe to keep their puppet alive, allowing him to walk up to the edge of the Cliff and spectacularly pulling him back at the last minute).

Ballybeyondthepail · 21/07/2020 09:03

'I'm just curious, could this $1M to each new mother plan work? They could use it to buy a house, embark on training or start a small business. If they are poor mothers who are likely to be on benefits, they'd probably get this much anyway, over the years'

Right, $1 MILLION for giving birth. Totally do-able, just print more money. Maybe make a $1m dollar bill, save on paper? I'm sure all the men who don't give birth, and women who don't give birth will be tots up for that not mad at all plan.

Ballybeyondthepail · 21/07/2020 09:04

you think people on benefits get $1 MILLION in total??? ar hahahahahahahahahahahah.

ChicCroissant · 21/07/2020 09:15

Nobody thinks - or has said - that people on benefits get a million dollars Bally, it's one of Kanye's proposals.

I'd say running for President without any involvement in politics before is a good sign of mania - he is totally manic at the moment, and sounding quite paranoid on Twitter if the newspapers are right with the quotes this morning.

Glitteryone · 21/07/2020 09:18

He needs help. I feel so sorry for his wife and daughter.

Haretodaygonetomorrow · 21/07/2020 09:52

I agree he does seem very unwell. He can be unwell and also an unpleasant person, a la the Taylor Swift situation.

Although I don’t see the offence in him saying he wanted to abort a pregnancy. Lots of men feel like this but change completely once they meet their child. He wasn’t wanting to abort North as an individual, it was an unplanned pregnancy.

AngeloMysterioso · 21/07/2020 09:54

Well if Kim hadn’t given her divorce lawyer a call before, she almost certainly has now...

“Kanye claims wife Kim was flying out 'with a doctor to lock me up' after his public abortion revelation, slams momager Kris Jenner and then says movie 'Get Out' is "about me" during Twitter rant - as fears for star grow”

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8543241/Kim-Kardashian-orders-Kanye-West-drop-presidential-campaign-divorce-him.html

WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo · 21/07/2020 11:46

My friend just pointed out he was in a horrific crash a few years ago and may have suffered a brain injury....... Throw in bipolar disorder and he has the perfect storm.

Mnhealth202020 · 21/07/2020 13:57

Why do people think Kim isn’t helping him? He tweeted that she tried to get him to see a doctor (which he refused)

Bakeachocolatecaketoday · 21/07/2020 14:47

@Mnhealth202020

Why do people think Kim isn’t helping him? He tweeted that she tried to get him to see a doctor (which he refused)
Better than that she was flying over with a doctor..... she is clearly extremely worried. But "Paranoid/Manic Kanye" doesn't see it that way...
Taikoo · 21/07/2020 15:04

There are persistent rumours that he's gay and that he struggles with that.
A lot of rumours that his marriage to Kimmy is just for show.
He might feel better when he comes out of the closet - if that's his problem.
Even the Sunday Times quizzed him about his past relationship with Riccardo Tisci.

AngeloMysterioso · 21/07/2020 15:37

Why do people think Kim isn’t helping him?

She’s not exactly known for persevering through the hard times...

Pollypocket89 · 21/07/2020 15:38

Do you know her personally AngeloMysterioso? Do pass on my regards... HmmGrin

Mnhealth202020 · 21/07/2020 15:52

@AngeloMysterioso

Why do people think Kim isn’t helping him?

She’s not exactly known for persevering through the hard times...

Err, how so? She’s come out of every controversy on top, most would have fallen at the first hurdle
AngeloMysterioso · 21/07/2020 16:43

Well she divorced her last husband after 2 and a half months, I’d call that falling at the first hurdle

callmeadoctor · 21/07/2020 22:34

Blur, you misunderstood, the question was to Mumsnet as to why this thread is allowed to continue when it is discussing a celebs mental health, when Prince Harrys thread was taken off for the same reason.

IHeartHarryStyles · 22/07/2020 06:12

I’m not sure the situations are really comparable. Kanye West is clearly very unwell whereas Prince Harry stuff is pure speculation. When he starts leaping about a stage ranting about Megan wanting to abort Archie then there might be a similar thread allowed fo stand.

Bluntness100 · 22/07/2020 06:20

He’s a cash cow surrounded by enablers

Actually it’s the opposite, he’s hugely in debt, and keeps getting bailed out.

It’s been reported for years that Kim felt he was very unwell. But unless you move to sectioning someone exactly what do you do? They clearly didn’t wish him to run for president or do any of the other stuff he has been doing, but how do you stop someone who is determined and doesn’t accept he is ill, unless you have him sectioned?

HelpMeh · 22/07/2020 07:29

He's currently having another twitter episode... I really do think someone should intervene.

OpenWheelRace · 22/07/2020 07:41

He definitely needs help.

Though to all those posters saying "I didn't know he was mentally unwell, I thought he was just a twat" = it is completely possible to be both. Kanye being a shining example of this.

alicequartz · 22/07/2020 07:44

He is definitely having some sort of 'episode' . It's extremely sad to see it being shared with millions around the world. Many people with no experience of mental illness will probably be laughing at him.

Onesnowynight · 22/07/2020 07:51

But how do they intervene? Handcuff him to a bed? Force feed him his meds?

As someone with bipolar, I would hand on heart say he’s manic definitely, but how exactly until he’s a danger to himself or others, do they intervene? Genuine question.

Faraway20 · 22/07/2020 07:55

@callmeadoctor because Kanye has a diagnosis that he has talked about himself, and his MH condition is not just the opinion of some bored women on mumsnet

OpenWheelRace · 22/07/2020 07:55

My grandmother has bipolar and there's no controlling a manic episode. It can be terrifying.

Take a look at his current twitter posts - something is not firing right.

AllTheWhoresOfMalta · 22/07/2020 07:57

Yo @BanditoShipman, I'm really happy for you, Imma let you finish but Kanye had one of the best presidential rally speeches of all time…one of the best speeches of all time!

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