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To feel a bit 'icky' after seeing partners internet history?

218 replies

IfIWasAFlowerGrowingWildAndFre · 12/07/2020 14:11

When using DPs phone yesterday I went to close some of the open pages on the internet and noticed one of them was porn. Now, I dont usually have an issue with porn, and whilst it's not something DP chooses to discuss with me, I am aware he watches it. The title of the particular video was something along the lines of 'dad watches daughter fuck stepmom'. Though I didnt look in depth I'm fairly certain it was more a role play scenario rather than incest, but given I am a 'stepmom' to his DD it feels pretty grim knowing he's getting off on that sort of thing.
A nosey through his internet history would suggest he watches that particular 'genre's often, and as I can see the times hes visited these sites, hes watching it whilst telling me he is going for a nap during the day (too tired to come to the park with me and DD, but not too tired for a wank),or late at night when he is downstairs 'relaxing' rather than coming to bed with me. He is often too tired for sex, and we dont have a great sex life anymore so it's a bit of a kick in the teeth.
Aibu to tell him what I've seen and that I'm uncomfortable with it?

OP posts:
bumblenbean · 12/07/2020 18:02

I’ve watched porn in the past and believe the majority (note not all) men are regular users of it. In and of itself that wouldn’t be a deal breaker for me (and you’ve said similar about yourself).

But this is very disturbing given the subject matter - if it was just a one off video it might be less of an issue but if he’s consistently searching for it it’s clearly an engrained fantasy. And Although in my experience sexual fantasies are often removed from real life - i.e what someone watches is not something they would ever want to do in real life - I would be concerned about the possibility this wasn’t the case here.

Coupled with his lack of interest in sex with you and the fact he’s lying about when he watches it this definitely isn’t ok.

Sorry you’re in this situation OP- hope you manage to sort it out

Bubblebu · 12/07/2020 18:12

Amberfest

" It dawned on me that he was clearly watching porn when he started wanting me to do various specific unpleasant things while having sex"

Yup - same with my ex.
It was very noticeable to me when suddenly my ex went from being tender and loving in bed to literally treating me like a porn star.
And that would have been about the same time (I realise in retrospect) that he had started an affair with a work colleague (his new wife) and had started consuming copious amounts of all sorts of porn (only caught him once but looking back it was freakin obvious to anyone less naieve than I was.

And yes, in my case, those two things absolutely spelled the death toll for our marriage.

I'm not saying everyone would be the same but I bet that kind of thing is more comment factor in divorces than people realise (and not just the adultery) - the porn really can fuel the bonfire for the destruction of the marriage.

Elsiebear90 · 12/07/2020 18:21

How old is the step daughter? Apologies if this has already been mentioned on the thread. If she’s 18-25 then that’s just the standard age of most women in porn, so could be a coincidence that the younger women in these videos are around his daughter’s age. I just think it’s quite a leap to assume he’s got sexual desires towards his own daughter based on what OP has said, and it’s dangerous to be insinuating that to his ex wife and other people purely based on what he has searched for on presumably legal mainstream porn websites.

wildone84 · 12/07/2020 18:25

@Elsiebear90

How old is the step daughter? Apologies if this has already been mentioned on the thread. If she’s 18-25 then that’s just the standard age of most women in porn, so could be a coincidence that the younger women in these videos are around his daughter’s age. I just think it’s quite a leap to assume he’s got sexual desires towards his own daughter based on what OP has said, and it’s dangerous to be insinuating that to his ex wife and other people purely based on what he has searched for on presumably legal mainstream porn websites.
You may think this is normal, but it is simply not normal in most peoples' eyes. People are right to be creeped out.
SmileEachDay · 12/07/2020 18:25

She’s 12 Elsie

As a side note Pornhub is the most mainstream porn site there is. It’s unmoderated and anyone can upload what they want onto there. And getting stuff taken down is really difficult. Make of that what you will in terms of presumably legal

Elsiebear90 · 12/07/2020 18:29

So OP is saying these girls in the videos look like they’re 12? So he is watching what appears to be child porn?

wildone84 · 12/07/2020 18:29

Someone I dated very briefly revealed to me that he had a "daddy/daughter" fetish (puke). But he said that he was not a paedo. He explained to me that having this fetish does not make a person a paedo. I dumped him.

Several weeks later I find out through someone else that one of his exes broke up with him because he was showing too much "interest" in and attachment to her young daughter (who was not his child), who he didn't even know that well. She sensed something creepy about it and ended the relationship.

My point is, paedos and perverts seek out this kind of pornography because it is what they are into.

Listen to your instincts, OP, whatever they are. Don't listen to people whose minds are so open their brains are practically falling out. We live in a society where we should apparently accept all kinds of fucked up fetishes because it's "inclusive".

TheGroak · 12/07/2020 18:45

How am I constantly surprised that a lot of women’s bars are so very low? I know how they get there and I know it’s a sad fact of life but fuck me it’s a sorry state of affairs Sad

IfIWasAFlowerGrowingWildAndFre · 12/07/2020 18:48

I dont think the girls in the video are 12 (the one I found open on his phone, both women definitely appeared to be over 18, though the 'stepdaughter' was dressed to look younger - hair in pigtails and a tshirt with a teddy bear on it). There is nothing in his search history to suggest he is looking for underage girls (though there is a lot of mention of 'teen', but again 18 or 19, whilst pretty grim, is still legal), it's more the sexual dynamic between families that hes looking for that is pretty nasty.
It pretty much all hes looking for, bar a few videos where he searches for women who resemble his ex wife.
I've had a reply, he claims it's only a fantasy and I'm being a bit hasty, he won't watch it again. I don't think I'm being hasty, I dont believe for a minute hell just stop watching it. Delete the evidence more like.

OP posts:
TheGroak · 12/07/2020 18:50

No you’re not being hasty OP. Not even a little bit. I’m sorry.

lilgreen · 12/07/2020 18:50

His poor DD. Perhaps you need to have a talk with her. I can’t imagine any decent father of a daughter getting his kicks that way.

lilgreen · 12/07/2020 18:51

Fantasy about girls his daughter’s age is ok???? Run for the hills but take her with you!

xmummy2princesx · 12/07/2020 18:53

That’s disgusting

lilgreen · 12/07/2020 18:55

Teens if18/19 are adults so don’t let that cloud your thoughts. Adult teens don’t tend to wear pig tails or teddy t shirts. He’s a sicko. Tell his ex wife, his DD needs protection.

Bubblebu · 12/07/2020 18:56

Greentree

"He doesn't watch it often, but he does sometimes, and I can accept that because I understand that I can't control another person"

But consider this. My ex husband on the one occasion I discovered him watching some porn (it was grim) was extremely defensive, first he said "but all men do it all the time don't be a prude it is totally normal, then gave me the whole "how very dare you" look at my internet history, almost immediately after saying to me "but I hardly ever look at it anyway" etc

From that day onward in our marriage I noticed that if I ever went out alone with the kids (he encouraged me to do this often) and then I had to use the family computer for some reason on my return home the browsing history was always BLANK.

He never ever dropped the ball after that - always totally BLANK (suspicious in itself but I see now I was a slow learner).

And if I ever used his mobile say in the car when we were out on another occasion to send a work text, his text history was always BLANK and his phone call history was always BLANK

I did not ask him about it at the time (because I was a doormat) but there was zero evidence, not just of porn use but of ANYTHING.

He left me for a work colleague (they are married but I have heard that relationship is now breaking down - but I would bet a million quid the start of his affair involved "my wife is such a prude she does not understand me etc".

And I have since discovered his porn habit during our marriage was PROLIFIC.

What is my point?
Well it would be this:

  • how do you know your partner only watches it occasionally? You just don't (unless he only ever watches it with you and you have proof of this or he tells you every single time he watches it and you have proof he is telling the truth which personally I struggle to imagine a relationship as transparent as this) and
  • the responses he gave me on that one occasion strike me now as the exact same kind of response someone who is having an affair but does not want the end of their marriage when they are finally confront would give (eg "everyone has extra marital affairs don't be such a prude, if you were not so frigid I would not have had an affair etc)

In my mind there are clear parallels.

And finally a "funny" story. One of my female best friends was on a train commuting into London. The gentleman on the other side of the aisle was watching porn on his phone quite openly and visibly (sound on) and his other hand was - you can guess. My friend tried to ignore him and decided to put on some make up ready for work that morning. Said man noticed my friend putting on makeup and turned off the porn temporarily to reprimand her for putting on make up on public transport "because it is unhygienic anti social and disgusting".
Then he went back to watching his porn. My friend (being a bit of an introvert) dutifully put away her make up bag.
And in my mind THIS is exactly why a significant percentage of women describe themselves without thinking much about it as a "porn prude".

tensmum1964 · 12/07/2020 18:57

The subject matter of what he is watching would certainly cause me concern. I don't think you are being hasty or unreasonable either.

Elsiebear90 · 12/07/2020 18:58

Hmmm it’s concerning that’s all he’s searching for. I don’t think it necessarily means he’s got a fantasy involving his own daughter though. I’ve heard of some women watching “rape” porn (which sounds disturbing to me personally and is something I would never watch), but I don’t think these women want to be raped, porn usage doesn’t always represent what someone actually wants to do in real life. He may just have found that this is the best term to find the videos he likes to watch (young woman and older woman).

BaskinForAFriend · 12/07/2020 19:00

FWIT I think you are being pretty hasty by not even having a conversation with him in person first.

PablosHoney · 12/07/2020 19:00

Gross!

geojojo · 12/07/2020 19:04

Urgh. I wouldn't like it. But I wouldn't like my partner watching any porn tbh.

CherryColouredTwist · 12/07/2020 19:04

@Elsiebear90 oh I see. So those women don’t want to be raped, they just want to watch people being raped. Thank goodness. That’s so much better Hmm

Timekeeper1 · 12/07/2020 19:04

He doesn't sound the least bit embarrassed or sorry, op. And 'just fantasy'? I'm sorry but the idea of him fantasising of me with his daughter? Even the idea of the fantasy being entertained, even, is disgusting.

Toona · 12/07/2020 19:12

Pigtails and a teddy bear tshirt

Sick fuck.

I'm not as anti porn as some on this sight, but there's a wide variety of interesting and titillating things he can watch adult women do without pretending they're children

wildone84 · 12/07/2020 19:14

[quote CherryColouredTwist]@Elsiebear90 oh I see. So those women don’t want to be raped, they just want to watch people being raped. Thank goodness. That’s so much better Hmm[/quote]
Sick, isn't it.

myohmywhatawonderfulday · 12/07/2020 19:14

@BaskinForAFriend - but what will an in person conversation entail? Possibly:

Denial
Minimisation - its just fantasy. It's got nothing to do with real life/how I feel about you.
Justification - most men do it.
Blame - well you shouldn't have looked.
Attack - How dare you look at my phone.

All to avoid accountability for his actions and get to continue what he wants do - when he wants to do it, though probably hiding it better.

The Op has the evidence of what he is up to.
It is for the Op to decide what her boundaries are and how she wants to proceed.

He gave up mutual co-operation in the relationship when he brought this secretive element into the home without consent. IMO.