To think someone from Ozark should be arrested

[notevenat20]

I just watched episode 6 of the first series of Ozark. In it a 15 year old girl is shown having sex with a man presumably aged at least 21. The whole thing is dealt with casually as if it’s a normal thing for the man to have done.

Isn’t this just paedophilia and isn’t it actually illegal to show depictions of paedophilia, even if they are not real? Surely the police should at least talk to someone at Ozark.

@AskingforaBaskin

I'm GOT Danny is 13 when sold and married to Karl Drogo.

😂😂😂 That sounds like the Home and Away version

I cannot believe you would doubt the sincerity of a brand new poster, discussing paedophilia, who doesn't seems to understand TV isn't real and sidesteps factual responses in favour of personal attacks.

Maybe they’re not a new poster ~ perhaps the OP also started this this beauty but has since NC-ed

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3530263-To-be-so-traumatised

I'm GOT Danny is 13 when sold and married to Karl Drogo

In the books yes, but in no way was the character in the show meant to display a 13 year old. The actress did not look that young. More like 16/17 maybe.

She was around 24
The GOT TV series aged everyone considerably. Ned stark was only 35 or so in the books.

Didn’t a baby get murdered in a brothel in thrones? Surely that’s worth a 999 call?

If you're uncomfortable with/disapprove with the way young girls/women are portrayed in films or tv shows ,the over sexualisation, how sex is portrayed etc., then that's ok and you have a point. There are campaigns you can join, petitions, you can leave reviews to show your disapproval and so on. You can fight against porn that portrays underage sex or sex with young girls, which is far more damaging

What you can't do is make up your own laws, and keep defending them as fact.
What you can't do is accuse someone of committing a crime by taking part/filming a sex scene where nothing is shown and both actors are adults.
What you can't do is take a completely made up scenario, played by adults and swap it for real life scenarios in an attempt to shut posters down.

If you’re that sensitive make sure you never watch or read Lolita then.

Or Rita,Sue and Bob too. That will blow your mind op.

You make it sound like a public school debating chamber. I was just disgusted by what I saw and amazed they got away with it..

Op, how much telly do you actually watch? I'm assuming very little.

Care to tell us more about yourself?

Is she serious?

I cannot believe you would doubt the sincerity of a brand new poster, discussing paedophilia, who doesn't seems to understand TV isn't real and sidesteps factual responses in favour of personal attacks.

How did MN get so cynical?

I'm with you OP- what did NASA say when you phoned them?

Hilarious donquixote

PrincessConsueIaBananaHammock

I think this is a little unfair.

"If you're uncomfortable with/disapprove with the way young girls/women are portrayed in films or tv shows ,the over sexualisation, how sex is portrayed etc., then that's ok and you have a point."

I am definitely uncomfortable with any scene in TV/film where an under-age girl acts out sex with a man 5+ years older, especially if there are no consequences for the man.

"What you can't do is make up your own laws, and keep defending them as fact."

I thought it was illegal in the UK for actors to act out scenes of underage sex. If it isn't, then I am wrong about the law (which now seems likely). That's not anything like making up your own laws.

"What you can't do is accuse someone of committing a crime by taking part/filming a sex scene where nothing is shown and both actors are adults."

I didn't exactly do that. I suggested someone from Ozark should be arrested. I didn't say who. I still think the scene was disgusting.

"What you can't do is take a completely made up scenario, played by adults and swap it for real life scenarios in an attempt to shut posters down."

Here we disagree. If someone is acting out something deeply immoral approvingly then this is immoral. It's clearly not the same as the underlying act but it's still wrong. In the particular case of sexual assault of underage children there are also laws which do make, for example, photo-realistic simulations criminal. Many people approve of these laws as do I. I also would want pornography where the actors pretend to be children to be illegal, if it isn't now. So in some cases images and simulated sex can be illegal even if there was no underlying child abuse.

Have the police been called on Netflix yet? Have they been arrested?

There are 156 movies on IMDB that portray sex with a minor. The fact that the search term exists, makes me more angry than your issue with Ozark.

Also I don't understand why you think this is portrayed in a positive or even neutral view. No one is jumping for joy or think it's great that this happened. It's very obvious that the girl is vulnerable,lashing out, there's a certain degree of pressure and it is not romanticised in any way.

I'm also not buying for a second that you did not realise this was legal. There have been many many shows(SVU, Criminal Minds) and films where this happens. Just because the man gets punished for it or there are negative consequences for it, wouldn't suddenly make it legal if there was such a law.

Thanks all, even the unnecessarily offensive people. I am very surprised that most MN posters approve of seeing child-abuse acted out on screen without criticism (in this case by a 17 year old girl). But as a lone opposing voice, I will call it quits.

Thanks all, even the unnecessarily offensive people. I am very surprised that most MN posters approve of seeing child-abuse acted out on screen without criticism (in this case by a 17 year old girl). But as a lone opposing voice, I will call it quits

Stupid straw man argument. Many people have provided important context for this scene (the fact that it shows how lack of family support and a secure home life can put children and teenagers in danger or lead them to making bad choices). Many others have said that it’s totally reasonable that you find the scene upsetting or uncomfortable but have simply pointed out that it’s not illegal despite that.

I haven’t seen anyone say ‘it’s great when tv shows depict child abuse in a positive manner’, so stop pretending that they have.

SadSisters Yes but we are in the UK where it was broadcast and it is illegal here I believe.

I've watched Clint Eastwood kill countless people, ending their acting careers for ever. Of course that would be illegal if Clint was shooting them right here in my sitting room.. Should he be extradited from USA, tried and imprisoned here in UK ?

Will I get called as a witness? Can I visit him in prison?

The premise of the OP is absurd and betrays a woeful ignorance of the legalities involved (and of the constructs of fiction).

@notevenat20 how do you feel about the classic Disney movies?

If this is what's getting you a twist about Ozark I'd walk away from the remote

@Queenoftheashes

Well OP you clearly think this is a police matter. I think you should definitely call them and tell them what you’ve set out here. Then please return and let us know what they say. It’s pretty serious so maybe you should pop down to Scotland Yard in person.

Please do this. Wold be brilliant Friday afternoon entertainment

Op you are now just twisting everyone's words to make a point and the only point it's made is to show how ridiculous and absurd you are. Do let us know how your phone call to the police goes.

I am very surprised that most MN posters approve of seeing child-abuse acted out on screen without criticism

I'm very surprised you're still unable to grasp that it isn't child abuse.

I've now watched the episode the OP is talking about. And I agree, I am totally appalled. Not only is there underage sex but a number of other offences are committed:

• assault
• actual bodily harm
• conspiracy to murder
• careless driving
• various firearms offences
• underage drinking

How did the talk with the police go? Were these further offences considered?