To think someone from Ozark should be arrested

[notevenat20]

I just watched episode 6 of the first series of Ozark. In it a 15 year old girl is shown having sex with a man presumably aged at least 21. The whole thing is dealt with casually as if it’s a normal thing for the man to have done.

Isn’t this just paedophilia and isn’t it actually illegal to show depictions of paedophilia, even if they are not real? Surely the police should at least talk to someone at Ozark.

[CassandrasCastle]

Damn, I thought this was going to be a good ol discussion of Ozark, including the fact that just about everyone on that show needs to be arrested.

[heartsonacake]

You are being ridiculous and ignorant OP. Educate yourself.

[anniegun]

If the man is under 21 the age of consent is 14 in Missouri (where Ozark is set). I don't think it indicated he was older than that, just a rich party boy. And he did check she consented. Oh - and its not real, there are a lot of very nasty murders to come!

[notevenat20]

heartsonacake You are being ridiculous and ignorant OP.

Ignorant about the benefits of 21 year old sleeping with 15 year olds? You may disagree with me but I don't see any need to call me ignorant.

[PlanDeRaccordement]

In the Dakota states on the USA, the age of consent to sex is 14. So it’s legal.

Pedophilia is NOT sex/attraction to underage girls who have gone through puberty and have secondary sex features (breasts, hips, pubic hair) because you are still attracted to a physically mature body that is no different from that of an adult.

Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children. Children that have not reached puberty.

[notevenat20]

anniegun If the man is under 21 the age of consent is 14 in Missouri (where Ozark is set).

That's definitely relevant. But if the age of consent were 10 in Missouri then it would still be illegal to broadcast simulated sex with a 10 year old in the UK.

[Pollypocket89]

I think there's every reason. You're being willfully ignorant of pp regularly pointing out that loads of things on TV are illegal IF THEY WERE REAL and harping on about child abuse when that was nothing to do with the scene you're referring to. It's bizarre

[CathyComesHome]

notevenat20 the guidelines you’ve posted refer exclusively to the difference between photographs and pseudophotographs. There’s absolutely nothing in the link you shared about adults pretending to be 15, which is not a crime.

Plus the Ozarks is not porn. I haven’t seen the episode, but how explicit was the scene in question? Did they show her naked vagina? Did they show actual penetration? I hardly think so.

[notevenat20]

PlanDeRaccordement Are you a British woman?

[PlanDeRaccordement]

Sorry just realised my geography is off. Ozarks are in Midwest, not Dakotas. So Anniegun is right, it’s in Missouri and yes, age of consent there is 14.

[Bloomburger]

So is Gangs of London one big snuff movie?

[SoupDragon]

@notevenat20

heartsonacake You are being ridiculous and ignorant OP.

Ignorant about the benefits of 21 year old sleeping with 15 year olds? You may disagree with me but I don't see any need to call me ignorant.

Who has mentioned anything about "benefits"?

[PlanDeRaccordement]

Why is my nationality relevant?

[SadSisters]

@notevenat20 did you read that whole link? It has an entire section on tv and film exemptions.

Given that this is an issue of real concern to you, I would suggest that you would be better off redirecting your attentions to actual pornography where adults pretend to be teenagers / schoolchildren etc. That must be much more of a concern to you than something like Ozark, and there are existing campaigns against it you could contribute to.

[notevenat20]

CathyComesHome The link is that images that look real are prosecuted even if they are not real. There has been a lot of emphasis on the fact that the TV show is not real.

[Pollypocket89]

You keep adding bizarre what if caveats when someone points out the flaws in your logic as if you just want to argue so I'll leave it there.

What if she was 10...she wasn't. She wasn't even really 15. Ridiculous

[PlanDeRaccordement]

I’m French if you must know.

[CathyComesHome]

notevenat20 the link you posted refers to “pseudophotographs.” I suggest you google pseudophotographs as you obviously have no idea what that word means.

[notevenat20]

SadSisters Sorry I must have missed the link. Could you paste it again?

I am not going to spend any more time than it takes me to post on MN. I just thought it was disgusting.

[SadSisters]

@notevenat20 I’m talking about your link which you posted.

[NewNewt]

She wasn't actually 15! and in the show the boy is a college boy on summer vacation so it was sex between a 20/21y old at most and a 15y old, possibly nearly 16. That is not paedophilia and wouldnt be prosecuted even here.

[notevenat20]

CathyComesHome I know what they are (because I googled them the first time). They are not real images which is the whole point. It is a crime even if the act didn't really happen.

[notevenat20]

NewNewt Why do you say it wouldn't be prosecuted here? The law is pretty clear that you can get 2 years in such a situation.

[PlanDeRaccordement]

If you’re that sensitive make sure you never watch or read Lolita then.

[NewNewt]

Can but very rarely prosecuted if the 15y old was consenting.