To think someone from Ozark should be arrested

[notevenat20]

I just watched episode 6 of the first series of Ozark. In it a 15 year old girl is shown having sex with a man presumably aged at least 21. The whole thing is dealt with casually as if it’s a normal thing for the man to have done.

Isn’t this just paedophilia and isn’t it actually illegal to show depictions of paedophilia, even if they are not real? Surely the police should at least talk to someone at Ozark.

@notevenat20

heartsonacake You are being ridiculous and ignorant OP.

Ignorant about the benefits of 21 year old sleeping with 15 year olds? You may disagree with me but I don't see any need to call me ignorant.

What are you talking about? Just stop, you’re embarrassing yourself.

You are ignorant and you do need to educate yourself.

I really hope this isn't real

No, you clearly have no idea.

Pseudo-images are digitally created images that are sexually explicit, ie showing a penis entering a vagina.

I watched the “sex scene” you are taking about. The actress is fully clothed throughout, the scene itself lasts for about 30 seconds. The two actors are shown kissing, then the camera shows a closeup of the actresses’ face, then it cuts to a closeup of the male actor’s back moving (actress is not seen in this shot), then there is another closeup of her face grimacing.

No body parts are shown, and no sex act is shown.

You are ignorant and you do need to educate yourself.

Just to be clear, my complaint is about the justification and depiction of underage sex on a popular TV show. It's hard to imagine what you mean in that reply other than to just be offensive.

“boy is a college boy on summer vacation so it was sex between a 20/21y old at most“

In the US they don’t have 6th form, so you typically start college (university) at age 18 there. If you skipped a year you could be 17, and if you were held back a year, you could be 19. They have 4yrs to a bachelors.
Freshmen- age 17-19
Sophomores- age 18-20
Juniors- age 19-21
Seniors- age 20-22

So, the fact he is a college boy on summer vacation would make him between 17 at youngest or 21 at oldest if about to start last year as a senior after summer.

CathyComesHome You are making a distinction in detail to show that that law doesn't apply here. That's fine and I am not a lawyer. But my point was simply that the fact an image isn't real isn't a defence in UK law.

Get a life

clpsmum One where I reply to page 6 of posts on MN I am not interested in? ;)

No notevenat20 you are wrong.

The law you quote refers to sexually explicit digitally manipulated images.

There are no “sexually explicit images” contained within a 30 second scene in which a fully clothed actress is shown from the neck up.

And the law very explicitly excluded real images of over-age models who are pretending to be younger.

@iwilltaketwoplease

Erm actually I know someone who was 15 having sex with someone in their 20s , someone else reported to the police but because it's was consented they didn't do anything.

The whole point of the age of consent is that it's deemed you cannot give informed consent below that age, so I think the police could be challenged on that decision.

But my point was simply that the fact an image isn't real isn't a defence in UK law.

But there is no “image.” It doesn’t exist.

Just to be clear, my complaint is about the justification and depiction of underage sex on a popular TV show.

This is quite a step down from your initial position that someone should be arrested for distributing child pornography!

The question of if / when / how depictions of teenagers having sex should be shown is a reasonable one, and it’s fine to question whether it’s always justified. But it really is a very separate question to that of whether something like Ozark is illegal. People have indicated why it is not, for many reasons.

CathyComesHome I understand what you are saying but I still believe I am right that the fact an image isn't real isn't a defence in UK law. It says it explicitly in the guidance I sent.

"And the law very explicitly excluded real images of over-age models who are pretending to be younger."

That is legally interesting. Can you point to the relevant part?

In any case, can we all agree that it is immoral to depict approvingly under-age sex between a 15 year old and 21 year old?

Well OP you clearly think this is a police matter. I think you should definitely call them and tell them what you’ve set out here.
Then please return and let us know what they say.
It’s pretty serious so maybe you should pop down to Scotland Yard in person.

This is quite a step down from your initial position that someone should be arrested for distributing child pornography!

You make it sound like a public school debating chamber. I was just disgusted by what I saw and amazed they got away with it..

Queenoftheashes So much gentle good wishes.

But if the age of consent were 10 in Missouri then it would still be illegal to broadcast simulated sex with a 10 year old in the UK.

No it wouldn't. As everyone is repeatedly telling you. And pseudo images are not what you think they are. As someone has already explained. Maybe read what people post rather than spouting shit.

And I quoted YOU when I mentioned age 13 - it wasn't a comment on the age itself.

No you are wrong.

First, an image from a TV show IS “real.” So no one would make the legal argument that it is a faked image.

The legal argument is not that the image is faked, it is that all the participants are adults. Which is legal, and has zero to do with “faked images.”

But as I keep reminding you there is no image. It does not exist, outside of whatever mental image your own mind created when you watched a closeup of a fully clothed actress’s face.

'I still believe I'm right'

You aren't. But you will believe that no matter what... Enjoy the rest of Netflix

https://www.themix.org.uk/crime-and-safety/your-rights/age-of-consent-9106.html

According to this it would be classed as a sexual offence. Not paedophilic.

The word 'paedophile' conjures up all nasties in the mind and you won't find a sane person on mn agreeing that paedophilia is right. It's a tv program op, not real. It's portrayed in the show as underage sex, nothing more

Maybe read what people post rather than spouting shit.

That's not kind. Being upset by the popularisation of under-age sex is not a bad thing.

OP, if you think the part of the show shows child abuse have you reported yourself to the police for purchasing and viewing child abuse?

MadCoffeeLady Yes. I have learned, since the start of this thread, that it is called sexual assault in law at that age.

I still believe I am right

You’re not.

Why did you even bother to post on AIBU?

SimonJT Thank you.