To think women's lives don't matter...

[DragonTrainedByLucy]

Warning I am incredibly fucked off with the World right for several reasons so apologies for the rant.

I literally am getting slammed left, right and centre for not being vocal on social media about Black Lives Matter and for not attending any of the three local protests (I am shielding, but supposedly it's OK to go because social distancing measure are in place). I'm also concerned due to the high proportionality of members from the BAME community due to COVID and the fact the R number has risen close to 1.

I supported #blackouttuesday - I got it wrong, I did the black square but I also did two posts on inspirational BAME employers in the two sectors I work in (this was supposedly the wrong bit). I got abuse.

What has really hacked me off though is that some of the people who are having a go at me for the lack of support to the #BLM movement are people who have sat next to me whilst I've been on the receiving end of really severe mysoginistic abuse and really serious abuse relating to gender identity (I have a trauma diagnosis that leads to gender identity confusion). These are not one off times, it's been multiple occasions.

Generally wondering where the support has been for women for the last three years (and all women, regardless of race, but this does also impact women from BAME communities negatively).

Have I missed it? If I have can someone please point me to the circles on where I will find where/how the female support happens because I really need it right now.

Also to all the BAME community, I am sorry for the continued shit you have to go to - I have donated (through three of the various links). I hope this ends with better outcomes for you all.

Women lives to matter to other women. Right now the platform for equality is needed for BLM.
Step away from Facebook your friends sound bonkers expecting you to protest if you're vulnerable.

@EmeraldShamrock

But why is BLM more important than Women? Does equality not mean they both have an equal platform at all times?

They're different issues. Someone else posted a similar thread last week and it was deleted.

This is a slippery slope to “all lives matter” OP. Yes women’s lives matter but the focus is currently on black lives.
Who has been hounding you for not posting on social media?

I agree OP. Of course BLM. But where are the mass protests for women's lives?

They are different issues - I do wonder if George Floyd had been female whether we would have seen the same response.

I honestly cannot remember a recent time when there has ever been a protest for the number of women murdered for example (the numbers are far far higher).

The fact that women's voices aren't heard and their opinions are not listened to or less likely to be listened to does impact the BLM movement- if women were treated as equals, everything we posted would be just as relevant to what men were posting. As it stands it isn't.

@ShirleyPhallus A couple of White women, but the vast majority have been BAME males.

My BAME female friends seem to be hesitant to post any personal stories, but do reshare things posted by others - usually men.

“ I literally am getting slammed left, right and centre for not being vocal on social media about Black Lives Matter and for not attending any of the three local protests”

I don’t believe you.

Your life matters, OP. I'm sorry you've been targeted online at what must already be a difficult time for you. Don't be pressurised into putting your life in jeopardy for those who don't care a jot about you or your health.

I honestly cannot remember a recent time when there has ever been a protest for the number of women murdered for example (the numbers are far far higher).

Right, but this started because the black community were outraged at George Floyd’s death and the first protests started from there. You really cannot be annoyed that there are no women’s protests because there are black protests currently.

A couple of White women, but the vast majority have been BAME males.

People are getting in touch specifically with you to have a go at you for not posting supportive things about BLM? Really?

@ShirleyPhallus so where is the outrage for the deaths of women? This is what I am asking (and it includes BAME women too)?

“ Generally wondering where the support has been for women for the last three years”

Not sure where the three year thing came from, but did the MeToo movement pass you by completely OP? How would you have felt then if BAME voices had’ve shouted over women’s voices?

@ShirleyPhallus Yes really, after I got the #blackouttuesday thing "wrong"...

Isnt the fact that they are seperate issues the point and at the moment we are being asked to appreciate inequalities from a black persons perspective.
I do feel it is sad how women dont seem to collectively stand up for their sex/gender (myself included), but this is a fight for another day.

This isnt about You!
Start your own protest if you must but fuck off with your hijacking of this one!

@GhostCurry I am not shouting over anyone's voice - as i have said I have supported BLM through donations.

The #metoo movement according to one of the BAME men that's slammed my lack of support "just demonstrates the number of women who lie about rape" ...

And no, I do not remember days of protests for MeToo in the UK.

[quote DragonTrainedByLucy]@ShirleyPhallus so where is the outrage for the deaths of women? This is what I am asking (and it includes BAME women too)?[/quote]
Have you heard of Breonna Taylor?

@BillywilliamV No it's not - it's about women, including BAME women, who need to have their voices heard - and for BAME women that's particularly important at the moment.

@ShirleyPhallus

I have - can you point me to where the days of protests in London were regarding her death please?

[quote DragonTrainedByLucy]@ShirleyPhallus Yes really, after I got the #blackouttuesday thing "wrong"...[/quote]
Your OP says “I literally am getting slammed left, right and centre for not being vocal on social media about Black Lives Matter” but you have been on SM by sharing the black square and your other posts. So which is it - being slammed for not posting or being approached for doing the blackouttuesday wrong? FWIW, the idea of Blackouttuesday was to only post the square and no other posts. People posting it then other stuff looks just like they’re jumping on the bandwagon in a social media stunt type way without fully understanding the significance behind it.

I agree. Look at Rotherham, Look at Epstein, selling under age girls for years and got away with it, I think he was caught probably not because of the girls but doing dodgy deals with dangerous individuals which caught up with him. 400 black people were killed by police in the US last year, which is absolutely awful and yes there should be a change of attitude. Over 1500 women were killed in the US by domestic violence last year, there should also be a massive change in attitude worldwide towards women. Some countries treat women worse than animals and no one seems to care.

@ShirleyPhallus I was very clear in my OP about the blackouttuesday bit - since then I haven't posted.

And seriously I saw no rules and thought the idea was to promote BAME people within your fields - which some of my BAME colleagues did without issue - did they get it wrong to?

This thread seems like a dog whistle for racists and one of those threads deliberately posted to take screenshots to suit a narrative.
There's not a limit on compassion or anger or demands for structural change.

The "me too" movement, it was massive. All over the news, just as much coverage. People are calling this the "me too" moment for the black community. Not that it is the same, just in terms of the level of spotlight on the issue. I'm sorry but I don't agree, I think there has rightly been a big spotlight on women's issues and now that spotlight is rightly and deservedly on black lives matter. It doesn't mean women's issues have gone away, no more than racism will have gone away when this spotlight fades. But right now is a global moment of reflection on this particular issue.