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Dr Judy Mikovits

237 replies

Firecarrier · 16/05/2020 11:32

AIBU to find this interesting?

YABU: She doesn't know what she's talking about

YANBU: It is deeply concerning

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ducksback · 16/05/2020 11:32

That video has been removed OP.

Firecarrier · 16/05/2020 11:37

Oh Grin

Wow, the overloads are quick on it. I literally just that second uploaded it

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Firecarrier · 16/05/2020 11:39

The link still works for me is that because I uploaded it?

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ducksback · 16/05/2020 11:39

What was it?

IamAporcupine · 16/05/2020 20:28

I saw one of her videos, not sure if it was this one.
My understanding is that she is a big conspiracy theorist but I am very interested to know other opinions.

Cabinfever10 · 16/05/2020 20:39

She is a massive antivaxer conspiracy theorist

Firecarrier · 16/05/2020 23:23

@Cabinfever10

What is a conspiracy theorist exactly. Do explain.

She is NOT an anti -vaxxer she says so in multiple interviews.

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Sparklesocks · 16/05/2020 23:30

‘ DescriptionJudy Anne Mikovits is a former American research scientist who is known for her discredited medical claims such as murine endogenous retroviruses being linked to chronic fatigue syndrome. She has been accused of anti-vaccination activism, the promotion of conspiracy theories, and scientific misconduct. ’

Lol yep like I’m going to watch her videos

Disabrie22 · 16/05/2020 23:32

She’s a grifter

KKSlider · 17/05/2020 00:12

She has previously.claimed that vaccines are linked to autism, Parkinson's disease, and cancer and has been a guestvsoesker at several prominent anti-vaxx events. She is an anti-vaxxer.

From what else I've read about her when is albasocally a gobshite for hire but one of those gobshites who tried to back up the rubbish they're spouting by throwing around some pseudo-science and claiming The System is trying to suppress these True Facts.

KKSlider · 17/05/2020 00:13

*guest speaker

aintnothinbutagstring · 17/05/2020 00:19

Sorry of ironic that certain vaccines potentially been linked to protecting from coronavirus such as the BCG and controversially the MMR (thought to be protecting children largely from severe effects).

Mimishimi · 17/05/2020 00:19

I think a lot of the points she makes are very pertinent. Like Big Pharma paying off doctors more if they diagnose a case as COVID and triple that amount if they put a patient on a ventilator.

Schoolisback1973 · 17/05/2020 00:30

I did see this video last week! Some of it made sense and a lot of pertinent points and questions. Then, I researched her and the video and apparently journalists can’t find any true facts to her claims! None of it is true apparently. So
confusing!!
What surprises me is how mainstream social media (FB, Twitter, YouTube and now MN) are so
quick to remove this particular video. They are
normally not as quick to remove hate speech or violent content!

KKSlider · 17/05/2020 00:34

Pertinent but not at all substantiated by actual facts.

KKSlider · 17/05/2020 00:40

Was the video linked to "Plandemic"?

Because if so

www.snopes.com/news/2020/05/16/plandemic-and-the-seven-traits-of-conspiratorial-thinking/

MolotovMocktail · 17/05/2020 00:47

YABVVU she is a dangerous antivax nutcase.

IPityThePontipines · 17/05/2020 00:52

YABVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVU

More about this anti-vax grifter here:

www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral

For all those who say MN was better back in the day, there used to be a clique of anti-vaxxers on here in the late 00s. It wasn't good.

Cabinfever10 · 17/05/2020 01:02

@Firecarrier
You do realise that the 1st words out of most antivaxers mouths are "I'm not an antivaxer but".
May I suggest that you step away from the internet as you clearly don't have the capacity to differentiate fact and fiction if you believe any of her dangerous bs

KKSlider · 17/05/2020 01:29

"I'm not an anti-vaxxer but..." is the science version of "I'm not a racist but..."

R1R2 · 17/05/2020 01:44

Everytime this deranged nutbag is brought up the morons come out with "bUt sHEs NoT a AnTiVaXXeR" well she is get it into your thick youtube riddled skulls. And while your at it your nazi loving mate Icke can fuck off too

7Days · 17/05/2020 01:59

Fuck sake.

I would love to know why people choose what to believe.
Not many people are expert in microbiology. Very few of us can read a paper on virology and critique it ourselves. We rely on middlemen, basically dumbing it down for the layman.

Why do people believe YouTube randoms, over credible scientists?

We cant assess virology papers but the layman should be able to assess trustworthiness and credibility. Is it that we dont know how scientific research works, the steps involved, the hoops and hurdles in the way, the concept of peer review. Do we all think every maverick who doesnt play by the rules but goddamn beings the system to its knees is like Erin Brockovich

Think I've just answered my own question....

It doesnt bode well when there is widespread lack of trust in the institutions and processes that hold civil society together. I don't mean blind trust, obviously, but a balanced view tilted towards the presumption of good faith.

TheClaws · 17/05/2020 04:54

7days There is a worrying trend of anti-intellectualism that this pandemic (among other events) has exposed, I’d say.

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/05/2020 04:58

Like Big Pharma paying off doctors more if they diagnose a case as COVID and triple that amount if they put a patient on a ventilator.

I think Americans forget that everywhere else, we try to reduce the amount medicine costs.

WomanIsTaken · 17/05/2020 05:04

Bleurgh. Don't give this stuff oxygen.