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To think Nicola Sturgeon is deluded

338 replies

Sadie789 · 07/05/2020 13:05

... if she thinks that people who want to exercise twice a day aren’t already exercising twice a day.

And that if Boris eases lockdown restrictions on Sunday that the whole of Scotland is going to accept being trapped at home for another three weeks?

And that the shops and takeaways and other businesses that are already opening up are going to suddenly revert back to a strict lockdown?

And that the “economy can recover”?

Really?

This is a crazy agenda.

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Osirus · 07/05/2020 13:08

I agree. I can’t imagine many are actually sticking to the only once a day rule anyway, not now. There’s so many people out today it’s almost like normal.

Methtones · 07/05/2020 13:09

I trust her more than I trust boris. She has some real rationale behind what she is saying.

LouScot · 07/05/2020 13:11

No. I don't think she is at all deluded. She's making it clear she's not trying to score political points but wanting to do the best to save lives in Scotland. I think the majority of people in Scotland will keep to the restrictions as they understand how important it is. Don't think anyone wants lockdown to last any longer as possible, and it might be with ill humour, but I do believe people will follow the Scottish government advice.

LouScot · 07/05/2020 13:13
  • any longer than possible
Sadie789 · 07/05/2020 13:13

She’s making it clear she’s not points scoring... while points scoring...

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Sadie789 · 07/05/2020 13:14

And a quick look out of my window right now suggests a large number of people are not following lockdown advice.

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Methtones · 07/05/2020 13:15

How is she points scoring? Shes damned if she does, damned if she doesnt.

If she was taking us out of lockdown before any one else I'd be worrying. But it's not to her advantage to keep us in lockdown when everyone isnt if there is no need for it.

KaronAVyrus · 07/05/2020 13:16

She uses “I” a lot. Just listened to her on the radio and she used it 10 times in 1 minute.

sweetkitty · 07/05/2020 13:17

No I don’t think she is

There’s still 600 people a day dying in this supposed lockdown, ease up and that number is only going one way

Jayfeem · 07/05/2020 13:17

I don’t think Boris saying restrictions will be eased means what you think it does. It’s not going to be a case of everyone in Scotland is trapped indoors, while everyone else flocks to the open pubs.

I suspect his guidelines (not the law) is going to change, very very slightly.

I trust her more than him at this point.

StatisticallyChallenged · 07/05/2020 13:17

I think if Boris announces a change on Sunday, say allowing bubbles or meeting outdoors, then a large proportion of people in Scotland will follow that guidance rather than a continued unchanged lockdown. Businesses are more likely to be aware and abide by the separate rules but i don't think the population as a whole will.

imation · 07/05/2020 13:17

She is scoring points, always releases the info before England does

StoorieHoose · 07/05/2020 13:20

Another NS bashing thread from Sadie. What a surprise

LouScot · 07/05/2020 13:21

It's separate information though, health is devolved, so by definition it needs to be in a separate briefing. I genuinely don't think she is trying to do anything other than save lives.

StoorieHoose · 07/05/2020 13:23

Welsh government are live on twitter now giving their briefing - any issues with that from English Posters cos I never see any threads about those

MouthBreathingRage · 07/05/2020 13:23

I think she's in a very difficult position. She has to decide what's best for Scotland, but there's always the chance that Johnston will pull rank. If she contrary, she looks like she's point-scoring, if she completely follows Westminster then any fallout will land at her feet. She can't make the people of Scotland follow her guidelines rather than the 'looser' ones of the rest of the UK (if that's what happens), but she can be shown on record to have given Scotland the stricter rules if there is an inevitable fallout.

Mmsnet101 · 07/05/2020 13:23

I trust her with my health /life more than BoJo or Dominic Cummings.

Some people just can't get past their dislike for her so will always be able to find fault. Much more prevalent with female politicians on all sides imo.

It will be difficult if England does relax and Scotland doesn't, but at the end of the day there's always going to be some breaking the rules and thinking they don't apply to them. There are others who just can't stick to the rules for various reasons,but are being as cautious as possible in doing so.

I think the majority will take it seriously though.

AmericanAdventure · 07/05/2020 13:23

Seriously - the UK has the worst death rates in Europe due the absolute incompetence of the Westminster government and you come on to tell us NS is deluded. Get a grip!

Methtones · 07/05/2020 13:23

Totally agree LouScot.

She's the glimmer of hope in the Tory wasteland of the UK....

Sadie789 · 07/05/2020 13:24

@sweetkitty it’s not 600 a day in Scotland.

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Coronabored · 07/05/2020 13:24

I hope she is not point scoring because now is not the time for that. I am not 100% convinced she isn't at this point in time

slashlover · 07/05/2020 13:25

She is scoring points, always releases the info before England does

She legally has to give the update today. Should she be waiting until 6pm or 7pm?

She gives information on devolved Scottish policies, why should she wait for England?

weebarra · 07/05/2020 13:25

I do trust her, but I'm worried. I'm currently standing in the post office queue, one in, one out and it's like a normal day in my small town near Edinburgh. Lots of cars, people chatting. Teenagers hanging about.

Sadie789 · 07/05/2020 13:26

Scotland’s economy is fragile as it is. It will never recover from prolonged lockdown.

It’s time to balance the lives lost to COVID with the lives, and livelihoods, lost to lockdown.

Sturgeon knows weakening the entrepreneurial spirit in Scotland places her in a stronger position when more people are reliant on the state.

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sweetkitty · 07/05/2020 13:27

I know the 600 deaths a day isn’t just Scotland. There’s a higher than average death rate in care homes just now I believe.

I’m also hating this “there’s only a low percentage of deaths in under 70s” like that’s ok if it wipes out everyone over 70 they are dispensable.