To think Nicola Sturgeon is deluded

[Sadie789]

... if she thinks that people who want to exercise twice a day aren’t already exercising twice a day.

And that if Boris eases lockdown restrictions on Sunday that the whole of Scotland is going to accept being trapped at home for another three weeks?

And that the shops and takeaways and other businesses that are already opening up are going to suddenly revert back to a strict lockdown?

And that the “economy can recover”?

Really?

This is a crazy agenda.

She’s deluded about everything else so 🤷🏼‍♀️

And, I am very much not an independence supporter, but I think Nicola Sturgeon has been very good throughout this so far.

Seriously - the UK has the worst death rates in Europe due the absolute incompetence of the Westminster government and you come on to tell us NS is deluded. Get a grip!

We don't have the worst death rates in Europe. We have the highest number of total deaths which is completely different and comparison between countries without taking into account population size is completely meaningless. As for death rates: Belgium 726/million, Spain 558/million, Italy 491/million, UK 443 per million.
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

"I’ve seen a lot of people on Facebook saying ‘I’ll follow the uk PM’s instructions as we are British!’ Yes we are but health is devolved and you are in Scotland ffs you have to follow the Scottish Governments rules on this!"

It's pretty similar along Welsh borders, a lot of people dont see themselves as answering to the Welsh Government, and havent even spotted that there are minuscule differences between Wales rules and Englands rules for lockdown.

No. I don't think she is at all deluded. She's making it clear she's not trying to score political points but wanting to do the best to save lives in Scotland. I think the majority of people in Scotland will keep to the restrictions as they understand how important it is. Don't think anyone wants lockdown to last any longer as possible, and it might be with ill humour, but I do believe people will follow the Scottish government advice.

Agreed.. and I'm not a fan of hers but in this situation I agree with her ..

The economy will recover though, we just dont know when. But it will.

@TabbyMumz, the English government were humming and haa-ing over school closures. Scotland and Wales said 'no, we're closing on x date' and suddenly England also decided the same.

I'm not talking about second house owners. I'm talking about the idiots who think having a day trip to Snowdonia is a good idea right now. Sadly, no they can't tell second house owners to bugger off once they're in.

'Exactly. "Easing" most likely means less limits on exercise and being able to sit in the park with a picnic.'

Yes I do think people are getting carried away with the Sunday announcement. The media have been asking repeatedly for a road map of future plans and it is my understanding this is what it is, albeit with the odd minor restriction lifted to boost morale. I don't think anything major will happen until June 1st whilst infection rates are still climbing.

When we people start worrying about the economy and our children’s futures as much as a bloody virus which barely touches most people and sadly those it does touch have to remain in lockdown anyway

I HATE that she wants to separate Scotland from the rest of the UK.

I HATED her & AS

Right now I live the woman & wish she was the PM isn't if the clown. We have more deaths now than when we went into lockdown

It's moronic to think lockdown should be eased.
People seem to think that the lockdown is the problem, it's not, it's the fucking virus!

People who are genuinely struggling need more help -the I'm bored lot need to grow up.

It's funny how there's never any outrage when Wales or NI do things slightly differently.

The getting out plan has to be different in Scotland because of the school term dates difference. There are going to be fundamental differences because of that.

Equally cases in some parts of Scotland are not going down. The ICU in Wishaw that was on the news last week is still absolutely packed full.

Nicola Sturgeon actually can't win in this one. If she doesn't different from Boris then she's politcal point scoring to make him look bad. If she does exactly the same as Boris and people die then she's political point scoring to make him look bad.

That said I think a lot of people are setting themselves up for a big fall on Sunday. He is not suddenly going to open the world to everyone again.

@TabbyMumz it worries me as Scotland had a high infection rate now so possibly does need to act differently. These people just don’t like snp whereas they should be looking at it as a government rather than just one party.

I've said this too. I've not even thought about it really as where we live there's so much space we can see no one.

I can't stand the woman but think she has talked more sense throughout this whole shambles than Boris or any of his minions.

Well good luck to her getting anyone in Glasgow to do anything they don't support.

She's a lot more credible than the fucking Tories.

And yet what has she actually done differently? Did she increase testing earlier? Had she bought in sufficient PPE? Did she close schools at a different time? What different lockdown rules did she introduce? How long did it take to provide a list of vulnerable people to supermarkets to allow priority deliveries?...

I trust her more than Bojo. She had the sense not to shake hands on Covid wards for a start.....

Do you know who is deluded? People who think the economy will be sorted by lifting the restrictions...

There are very few businesses not operating now that could operate with social distancing in place and make a profit.

People haven’t been furloughed because businesses are altruistic, they’ve been furloughed because their job isn’t economically viable - the difference between furlough payments and job seekers allowance will not save the economy.

Scotland has a higher per capita death rate than the U.K. average currently, daily deaths are flat rather than decreasing on average, same in northwest England for that matter. If certain regions are not seeing sustained falls then it's perfectly reasonable to restrict movement or delay the reduction of lockdown restrictions longer than areas which are coping better. Where I am has very few cases, most imported from London (second home owners) - why shouldn't we get freedom sooner (and keep second home / holiday makers away until at least late June)

And a quick look out of my window right now suggests a large number of people are not following lockdown advice.

Most of the people I know are following the lockdown advice. Where I live our housing estate is around 1500 house, normally when people go out the pop up to silverburn or down to the beach, or parks etc, they are following the advice and exercising by going to a walk locally so obviously the estate is now very busy with people walking locally that don't usually as they cant go elsewhere but they are all following the social distancing rules while out.

She’s making it clear she’s not points scoring... while points scoring...

I haven't seen point scoring, I have seen a first minister making the decisions she is responsible for and passionately believes is in the best interest of Scotland as honestly and transparently as possible. This is the way she operated before the crisis and hasn't changed.

She has managed to delay a review of how well Scottish education has been going (Pre-Covid) until the election next year though...

Well good luck to her getting anyone in Glasgow to do anything they don't support.

@Tootletum Eh? Why just Glasgow?

This has just come up on SKY news. Not much information yet.

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-very-limited-lockdown-changes-in-england-downing-street-11984686

'We don't have the worst death rates in Europe. We have the highest number of total deaths which is completely different and comparison between countries without taking into account population size is completely meaningless. As for death rates: Belgium 726/million, Spain 558/million, Italy 491/million, UK 443 per million.'

Yes the media shouting about highest death counts without taking into account population size is so irresponsible, many people believe these hysterical headlines without actually looking at the facts. Also our recording of deaths has been transparent and consistent, many other countries haven't been. It isn't clear who includes community and care home deaths. Our time delays from registering to reporting has also now been rectified.

I wonder if in 6 months time when overall excess deaths across Europe are available and the UK will not be the worst if the MSM will be quite so keen to report that??

*Until AFTER the election