To think Nicola Sturgeon is deluded

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... if she thinks that people who want to exercise twice a day aren’t already exercising twice a day.

And that if Boris eases lockdown restrictions on Sunday that the whole of Scotland is going to accept being trapped at home for another three weeks?

And that the shops and takeaways and other businesses that are already opening up are going to suddenly revert back to a strict lockdown?

And that the “economy can recover”?

Really?

This is a crazy agenda.

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Not a fan then @Boireannachlaidir?

Sounds as if you are describing the Tories though

Sorry haven't read whole thread but wasnt a fan of her. I think she's been fantastic on Corona virus. Lot more time to listen to her now.

I've never liked Nicola Sturgeon but I think she's doing a good job.
I don't want to see more people dying so I can sit in the park. Yes the economy will take a long time to recover but people's lives are at risk. Anybody could die including children. Nothing should come before that.
End lockdown too early then it was pointless in the first ace. It's hard but I feel its necessary

She puts her own party ideology before the Scottish people.

Every election. And we vote for it.

She puts her own party ideology before the Scottish people.

No, she puts her party ideology in front of the Scottish people at every election and then we vote for it. Simples.

I’m in Scotland and trust her more than Westminster, I’d rather have this now than a few months down the road another lockdown.

No wonder care homes in Scotland couldn't trust the Scottish government to give them money for ppe.

You do know that care homes aren't charities don't you? They're profit-making establishments who cream off large amounts of money from the incomes of the vulnerable people they care for - usually their life savings and their homes.

They supply minimum levels of care all year round - minimum staff, pay minimum wages and minimum everything. Now when the time has come that the minimum isn't enough do you think that they raised their standards and cut their profits to prepare for the virus?

That would be a no. Now people want the extra money for that to come from the NHS which doesn't have funds allocated to provide the care for those in the private sector.

Do you remember the early 90s when the tories were privatising the public services? The whole 'Care in the Community' programme was part of that too. I was working as a staff nurse back then and I watched the hospital wards close as the private sector opened its doors to the profits.

You can't have it both ways - either long-term care is privately run and profit-driven or it's provided by the NHS with appropriate funding.

You do know that care homes aren't charities don't you?

A large proportion are run by charities and local authorities (sometimes as ‘arms length’ organisation) also remember personal care is paid for by government and PPE is used for personal care.

@Aesopfable

hub.careinspectorate.com/media/1182/full-report-on-the-future-of-residential-care-for-older-people-in-scotland.pdf

'Within this context, a mixed economy of care has emerged – but with private sector predominance. While some councils have retained greater levels of in-house provision, and while the voluntary sector continues to play a small but important role in most local authority areas, almost all councils in Scotland are now highly dependent on care homes that are provided by private sector organisations.'

The allowance towards buying personal care is already included in the funding allocation given by the LAs towards the care home fees - it's not over and above. The care homes get the money for PPE every time a bill is paid.

I have never voted SNP but I respect NS & think she has shown much better leadership than BoJo. If social media is correct there is an increase in people flouting lockdown rules. It makes me angry & worried as in my household we are following all the rules.

I will continue to follow the advice from NS regardless of what BJ announces. This us Duffy UK this I miss my family & my DC desperately miss DGPs but that's a sacrifice we need to make

And yet noone can tell me what actions (apart from speeches) Nicola has taken that is better than the UK government?

And yet noone can tell me what actions (apart from speeches) Nicola has taken that is better than the UK government?

She closed the schools earlier. She was far less wishy-washy on what was meant by “essential”. She laid the plan for coming out of lockdown out for people to see even nice and early.

I think the biggest thing she’s done better is be consistent and clear. Probably because she’s not had a succession of different people doing the briefing so the message stayed on point. That’s not a dig at Boris being ill before anyone jumps - he was bored of the daily press conferences in days and happily handed them over to other people ASAP.

I like that when she's asked a question she doesn't know the answer to she doesn't mumble around it she will admit she doesn't know but will find out.

Seriously - the UK has the worst death rates in Europe

Far too soon to say that. Every country is counting in different ways. Italy's excess deaths' are about 9k more than ours over the last 6 weeks, which is surprising if we have 'the worst death rate in Europe'. Scientists and modellers have said league tables of deaths are entirely meaningless. it will take a considerable amount of time to get useful comparable data from this pandemic.

Makes a good headline though...

And yet noone can tell me what actions (apart from speeches) Nicola has taken that is better than the UK government?

She closed non essential construction sites down and they will.not reopen until she gives the go ahead. My DH building site had 1 portaloo with a trickle of cold water and no soap for at least 50 tradesmen., All working in houses with multiple trades at the same time. England only followed when it suited them and even then some.houses are still being built

"You can thank her for saving English lives"

All Hail St Nicola.

Based on populations (2017) and reported Covid deaths (as of yesterday), the death rates in the 4 countries of the UK (per 100,000 people) are:

England 40.33
Wales 34.66
Scotland 32.48
NI 23.26

I think I'll listen to Nicola Sturgeon rather than Johnson.

She closed the schools earlier.

No she didn’t - they closed on exactly the same day. Before BJ announced that school were to close she said it was a planning assumption and likely but she didn’t announce they were to close until BJ did. There is also no legal requirement for schools to be shut in Scotland.

John Swinney also left all decisions about which kids could still attend school to local authorities which, naturally, did as little as possible meaning unlike England where all kids with EHCPs can attend school, there are many families with children with ASN struggling with absolutely no respite.

And yet noone can tell me what actions (apart from speeches) Nicola has taken that is better than the UK government?

Never underestimate the influence of a strong leader, the majority of the country trusts and respects, during a crisis.

Never underestimate the influence of a strong leader, the majority of the country trusts and respects, during a crisis.

But do they anymore? Just been for my weekly shop and apart from the queue for the supermarket and extra bikes on the road, it's like it's a normal day out there. Possibly explaining why we are further behind and yet locked down earlier in the infection cycle.

I know there is a mindset amongst some that Scot's are just generally better than everyone else, but it seems we are just like anyone else - if not worse.

Scottish deaths might be lower per capita in part due to the population density being a quarter of England's. Also there's no international travel hub or city the size of London.

If she's doing a good job on covid, I do hope she turns her attention to drugs deaths in Scotland at some point, as they are the highest of any country in Europe.

perhaps the UK Government will allow safe rooms as proposed by Glasgow City Council to help reduce drug deaths - the Home Office refused permission when the Scottish Government asked as drug control is held by WM. So SG can try to reduce drug deaths if WM allow them

Also Scotland peak is well behind London the deaths have only dropped in past couple of days, greater Glasgow is hardest hit which is most densely populated area

Wonder if she has seen Alex recently?