To think Nicola Sturgeon is deluded

[Sadie789]

... if she thinks that people who want to exercise twice a day aren’t already exercising twice a day.

And that if Boris eases lockdown restrictions on Sunday that the whole of Scotland is going to accept being trapped at home for another three weeks?

And that the shops and takeaways and other businesses that are already opening up are going to suddenly revert back to a strict lockdown?

And that the “economy can recover”?

Really?

This is a crazy agenda.

I wonder if in 6 months time when overall excess deaths across Europe are available and the UK will not be the worst if the MSM will be quite so keen to report that??

It'll be used then to change the narrative to how well we did and how great Great Britain is

Scotland has a higher per capita death rate than the U.K. average currently, daily deaths are flat rather than decreasing on average

It's nearly 20% down on the 7-day average a week ago.

The rest of us have long lives to live in poverty and despair if things keep on going like this.

I am just off a zoom call with a colleague who lives just outside of New York. He is probably late 40s and he personally knows two men around his age with no known underlying conditions who have died. They probably had long lives to live too. They don't know why this disease is killing people of all ages.

I don't personally know anyone who has even caught it, that is thanks to lockdown. I'd rather my loved ones and I were skint than dead.

@Megatron they're independent minded and draw their own conclusions. Was sort of a joke.

The way i see it is. The majority of scots will comply with the extended lockdown.

The rest will follow BJ guidelines which tbh are not going to be a complete end to lockdown despite what some people seem to think. the schools and pubs are not going to open on Monday.

Good on Nicola. The things I've seen written about her on SM are quite frankly disgusting. Attacks on her appearance, telling her to get back in the kitchen where a woman belongs. Just because shes putting lives first.

Aye its tough, its really hard for everyone but shes not doing this for the hell of it ffs.

I am not a fan of SNP but i think she is right, she is not saying Uk government will be wrong if makes changes but makes point that Scotland curve not flattened yet so not right time for Scotland. I don't think she wants to ruin Scotland and shut down all business and demolish economy just so she can get Yes votes like so evil super villain. I think she is doing what she thinks is right for Scotland

No I trust her completely she does her press conferences for the people of Scotland . If Boris wants to get in first he should change his time. Nicola is putting safety first. She isn't getting updates from Boris and is finding out like the rest of us in the papers. Downing Street don't get a hoot to keeping the First Minister in the loop. So she can do her press conferences when she wants in the country she runs. Or does Boris just dictate to Scotland and the other devolved nations and we should all fall in line .

As a sample size of two DH and I would love to exercise more than once a day but aren’t. We can live with another 3 weeks of lockdown so we will. I did go to B&Q this week so am probably already a MURDERER and am pro-Indy so you may wish to discount my views.

@Sadie789
NS has handled this very well, I’d rather listen to her than the part time bumbler Johnson who has led the U.K. into the highest death rate in Europe.
Why not start a praise Boris thread? See if you get the response you want?
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She is point scoring, and she says the opposite of what BJ says.

So last week when the press were calling for a plan to ease restrictions she started talking about schools going back/opening shops/reducing the lockdown measures,and then when the government started talking about a plan she did an about-turn and said that she wouldn’t be easing the lockdown after all.

As per the death rate, we’re actually not highest in Europe yet.Italy’s death rate is still higher per capita than ours (198 in 1 million vs 149 for the UK.) That doesn’t mean we won’t catch up, but The “UK has the highest death rate in Europe” headline is misleading.

Also we don't have a higher per capita death rate.

I wonder if in 6 months time when overall excess deaths across Europe are available and the UK will not be the worst if the MSM will be quite so keen to report that??

No doubt very unlikely if that turns out to be the case.

I don't think she has ever i dictated about schools going back. She may have said that school might look different when they go back but she has never wavered from saying the schools won't go back til after the holidays like she said when they closed them

@AlternativePerspective
You do know Scotland is a devolved parliament? She can make decisions for Scotland, not blindly follow baw jaws 🙄
Does anyone attack the Irish or Welsh? no just NS.

I’d place more trust in Nichola Sturgeon’s little finger than I would in the whole of Boris Johnson. I’d trust her to read the evidence and I’d trust her to take advice from experts. I also believe she places the needs of the people of Scotland before the needs of big business.

"I'm not talking about second house owners. I'm talking about the idiots who think having a day trip to Snowdonia is a good idea right now. Sadly, no they can't tell second house owners to bugger off once they're in."

The police arent doing much about them either. They've closed car parks to attractions, but they can't close Wales, as much as they like to say "Wales is closed", it isnt. Difficult to do so as so many people travel to and from Wales to work etc. And vice versa. Theres quite a lot of traffic on the main roads. I know loads of people travelling to Wales for walks etc

@Megatron they're independent minded and draw their own conclusions.

@Tootletum Yes we are, but we're not idiots. Not all the time anyway.

I think you're deluded OP. I'm in Scotland and everyone where I live is observing lockdown. Likewise where my siblings and friends live - and that's across Scotland.

So last week when the press were calling for a plan to ease restrictions she started talking about schools going back/opening shops/reducing the lockdown measures,and then when the government started talking about a plan she did an about-turn and said that she wouldn’t be easing the lockdown after all.

That's a complete twisting of what she said and did. She talked about a long-term plan for things re-opening when the numbers dictated it being safe to do so.

She has said that she won't be easing lockdown right now.

Those two things do not contradict each other and are not a u-turn in any way, shape or form.

My observation (urban area in Scotland, mostly flats without gardens) has been that there's been a gradual increase in the last week of people being out and about and sitting about etc in parks/public spaces - a lot of this is down to the good weather.

There's a visible police presence on foot/bikes and as long as people aren't in large groups and are appropriately distanced they're being left to it.

People are being sensible and keeping well apart for the most part.

One of the risks of loosening restrictions officially is that this will encourage far, far more people out, people will push the bounderies of the relaxed restrictions as they are pushing them now and it will no longer be possible for people to keep apart.

I think she's quite right to take things very slowly and I think the UK government will pretty much do the same to be honest.

And yes, different school terms in Scotland mean that it would be crazy to send the schools back in June - we break up for summer at the end of that month

So last week when the press were calling for a plan to ease restrictions she started talking about schools going back/opening shops/reducing the lockdown measures,and then when the government started talking about a plan she did an about-turn and said that she wouldn’t be easing the lockdown after all.

She always at every point said she was talking about it as she wanted to be transparent as press/people wanted to know but every single time emphasised that this was a discussion about something that was still a long way off. You are putting your own spin on her words.

@Megatron was intended as a compliment. I love Glasgow. No offence intended.

It's to be cold and pish of rain next week so there won't be folk out walking about or sunbathing. Supermarket queues will be a bit miserable though

As per the death rate, we’re actually not highest in Europe yet.Italy’s death rate is still higher per capita than ours (198 in 1 million vs 149 for the UK.)

Not much in it.