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Bernie Ecclestone to be a dad again at 89.

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Ginger1982 · 02/04/2020 22:44

Apologies for the link to the Sun but AIBU that this is just ridiculous? That poor child will probably statistically never know his dad.

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SirChing · 03/04/2020 08:59

@User202004 Who says it was planned? People seem adamant this was IVF when we have no idea (unless some one knows them in which case fair enough).

Men of that age can father children. Women of that age can fall pregnant. How the hell can anyone know the circumstances?

SirChing · 03/04/2020 09:01

@wibblewobblejiggle so you think the woman is a prostitute? Without knowing the details of their relationship? How kind!

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mochajoes · 03/04/2020 09:03

Why does everyone always judge the younger wife for being a gold digger? So what if she is? Bernie could have found a number of 80 yo ladies but he wanted youth.

wibblewobblejiggle · 03/04/2020 09:05

I judge both of them for bringing a child into this.
I think they're both disgusting.

And now I can't get Gold Digger out of my head.

User202004 · 03/04/2020 09:07

@SirChing statistically it's extremely unlikely as I'm sure you know, considering their wealth it would be much more realistic to assume they've had medical intervention. As I say I hope so because a baby born with a combined parental age of 133 isn't a gamble I would be taking in terms of egg/sperm quality.

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SirChing · 03/04/2020 09:10

And as a PP said I can think of a couple of billion reasons this is all happening

Which implies that you think she has sold herself for money. Which is prostitution isn't it?

As far as any of us know, a man and his wife who have a big age gap are having a baby.

According to mumsnet, a man and his wife had IVF, possibly using donor sperm, and his wife is doing it for the money. Why? Because you can't get your heads around two people with such an age gap having sex. They are both adults. There is a chance that she is perhaps not as shallow as a lot of posters here and actually loves him.

Given that none of us know for sure, how devastated would you be if you were pregnant by your much older husband who you love and adore, but people on the internet are questioning whether he is the real father and calling you a gold digger?

These are real people. One of whom is pregnant. "Be kind" didn't last long did it? But why would it when "be vicious" seems to come so much easier to so many of you.

allallin · 03/04/2020 09:11

A lot of his finances were disclosed when he was in court in Germany for bribery, and he set up a family trust with his billions. Its an interesting read.

"Since his divorce from his wife, the accused has received payments on the basis of the British decree nisi. The payments amount to around $100 million a year. The duration of the payments from the divorce decree is not known."

When he and Slavica - who is 28 years his junior and at 6ft 2in, almost a foot taller - divorced, it had widely been assumed that she was in receipt of the biggest divorce settlement in history.

Reports suggested that she had been given more than a billion dollars in a deal agreed behind closed doors. The truth, as with much of Mr Ecclestone's affairs, is more complex. According to the indictment, the details of the divorce settlement were given to the German prosecutors in testimony from Frederique Flournoy, a director of the Ecclestones' Bambino trust.

The family trust is based in the tax haven of Liechtenstein and its beneficiaries are Mr Ecclestone's ex-wife and their two daughters Tamara and Petra. It was set up in 1997 and is thought to be worth more than £2.4 billion.

Mr Ecclestone's assets were transferred into his wife's name in the 1990s at a time when he faced heart problems. Slavica had not lived in the UK long enough to be domiciled for tax purposes and, had he died, she would have had to pay 40 per cent inheritance tax on money received from him. Normally, spouses are exempt from this.

To prevent his income from being taxed, Mr Ecclestone transferred his most valuable assets, the entire share capital of F1's parent company, to a Jersey-based business called Petara which was ultimately owned by his ex-wife. She then put the shares in the offshore Bambino trust, meaning no tax has been paid on the money raised by his 2006 sale of F1 to a private equity firm.

The catch is that, as a UK resident, Mr Ecclestone is not allowed control over the trust, otherwise he risks an inquiry and hefty tax bill. The set-up led to the unusual divorce settlement in which the trust paid out to Mr Ecclestone. What Mr Ecclestone has been doing with his £60 million a year trust payments is not clear.

While generous to his children, Mr Ecclestone, the Depression-era son of a Suffolk trawlerman, is known to count every penny. He is said to own a number of private jets, a chalet in Gstaad and a 190ft yacht. But those were assets acquired before his divorce. He lives in an apartment, described as modest in some quarters, above his office overlooking Hyde Park in central London and still works five days a week.

SirChing · 03/04/2020 09:12

@User202004 Unlikely doesn't mean impossible. And I doubt the sperm and ovum where aware that their owners were loaded when they did their thing!

mochajoes · 03/04/2020 09:13

The reason he gets a young woman is cos hes loaded end of hes a ugly little creep who looks like a poisoned dwarf so why would anyone fancy him unless they're blind or just fucking greedy

So the woman is blind or greedy, but why does the older man want such a young wife? Why not find someone his own age? Do you think he thinks she isn't attracted to the money?

CheriLittlebottom · 03/04/2020 09:15

Made me think of this Grin

wibblewobblejiggle · 03/04/2020 09:21

@SirChing Fine. Call it what you want.
I fully believe they have had sex. And as I don't want my own vagina to seal itself shut from horror that's the last I will thinking of that.

I think what they've done is awful. Selfish and disgusting.

I don't think it should've been allowed. If it did involve IVF I think the Doctors should be ashamed and struck off.

I do believe she's with him for the massive fortune and short life expectancy.
I think he's with her because money buys youth.

I however can't muster up to much pity for their expected progeny who while almost certainly going to have masses of issues from being screwed up will surly find a few billion ways to cope.

SirChing · 03/04/2020 09:23

Okay wobble. But if you are wrong, how would that lady feel reading what you wrote? Money doesn't insulate you from being hurt by social media. Caroline Flack proved that. Have we really learned nothing from her death?

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CheriLittlebottom · 03/04/2020 09:26

Caroline Flack was a moderately successful TV presenter. I don't think that the current Mrs Ecclestone is even remotely in the same bracket as her. She will not be reading Mumsnet.

SirChing · 03/04/2020 09:27

And to be honest, the people who seem the most money obsessed are those who seem to believe that there can never be another reason for a woman to love an older man. Which is so damning to women.

People on here are quick to say no one wants to be a sex worker by choice. Except when the bloke is rich, then apparently women immediately sell themselves. Nice.

sqirrelfriends · 03/04/2020 09:28

The child will be set for life and it's mother is reasonably young so has a chance of a great life, albeit without his or hers father.

Better than both being too old. Reminds me of that 73 year old mother and 80 year old father in India. Very sad for the child.

SirChing · 03/04/2020 09:28

I hope she does read it
I hope she knows that people think it's disgusting

That's just vicious and nasty and oozes jealousy of her financial status to be honest.

wibblewobblejiggle · 03/04/2020 09:29

Jealous 😂😂
I am financially secure in a global crisis.
I have 3 children with my age appropriate husband.

You couldn't pay me Billions to shag him.

I am not jealous. I think what they've both done is awful and I do judge them. And I think all involved should be ashamed.

PhilCornwall1 · 03/04/2020 09:30

He lives in an apartment, described as modest in some quarters, above his office overlooking Hyde Park in central London and still works five days a week.

He does also "shack up" on a very nice farm he owns in Brazil with his Mrs, where she runs the coffee business.

pocketem · 03/04/2020 09:30

Yes SirChing, I'm sure these two are together because she genuinely loves and fancies him. Nothing to do with his money at all. If he was a pensioner in Blackburn she would have still fallen for him

Also fairies are real and unicorns exist. How dare people suggest otherwise

Bernie Ecclestone to be a dad again at 89.
SerenDippitty · 03/04/2020 09:32

A man’s sperm gets more random mutations the older he gets. There’s a statistical risk at 50 never mind 90 and a higher risk of ASD and learning disabilities and if the child is a girl a greater risk to any children she may have.

SirChing · 03/04/2020 09:33

@CheriLittlebottom She probably won't. Because after all, when you are rich and pregnant you are an entirely different species from other pregnant women. You have zero concerns or questions about pregnancy which could be answered discreetly in the anonymity of a private forum. None of the physical or mental aspects of pregnancy apply. No queries that you maybe don't want to ask your doctor's about in case someone breaches confidentiality. Nope, you're right. A woman who is rich would never ever have any concerns regarding pregnancy.

Which is why we all know there have never ever been any famous mumsnetters don't we?

JonHammIsMyJamm · 03/04/2020 09:33

All that money and he looks like he cuts his hair with a knife and fork.