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Friend is annoyed - Hen-do, wedding, pregnancy nonsense

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HairsprayBabe · 11/03/2020 11:05

Group of 4 friends, been friends for a very long time, never any drama see each other about once ever 1-2 months watsapp group chat basically daily, so we are all close.

Friend1 has her wedding end of August, has been booked for 2 years, she came to my wedding and hen and Friend2's wedding and hen - both last year. She booked her hen do dates in for the end of July just after Christmas.

I am pregnant, and due literally the same weekend as her hen do - which she is having in a different city about 80miles away, so obviously I can't go. If it was a meal and a night out in our own city I would probably go to at least part of it, depending on how I felt.

Friend2 who is maid of honour has also just announced her pregnancy, she is due mid September - is still planning on attending overnight hen in other city.

My pregnancy was unplanned, Friend2 had just stopped using birth control and was in the "ooh lets see what happens" phase of TTC.

Bride has also announced in the last week that wedding is now child free including tiny babies, totally her choice I don't have an issue if that is what she wants. I told her if BF works out I probably won't be able to attend as will have a very little baby who needs boob often and can't be left. Friend2 has said the same thing if her baby arrives before the wedding.

Bride is really annoyed that two of us are now pregnant and due so close to her wedding she is shutting us both out, this behaviour on her part is making our other mutual non-pregnant Friend3 uncomfortable and unsure to how the atmosphere of the hen will feel and is considering not going - I know this will just make Friend1 more upset.

She has never previously been this selfish, and we have been friends for over a decade. I don't know how to behave around her anymore because she seems to feel that we planned our pregnancies to disrupt her wedding/hen-do!

IABU to go to her and tell her straight that she is in danger of becoming a bridezilla? I just want my nice normal friend back and I fear either ignoring or confronting will just make things worse!!

Hope I haven't left anything out - trying not to drip-feed!

OP posts:
DisasterousManagementPlan · 13/03/2020 13:10

Has nobody mentioned the fact Friend 2 actually planned her pregnancy?! I do think out of all 3 of you she is the one who has behaved worst. Don’t accept maid of honour duties and then deliberately do something that could/will upset her best friends day

Seriously? People should put their lives in hold because their friends are getting married? Really?

With TTC you never know how long it's going to take. You may as well just go with it when it feels right.

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/03/2020 13:47

@Leighhalfpennysthigh. So glad you met someone after your husband died

I had read a few times over your failed ivf - had 4 failed myself so know what it is like

Also had a husband kill his self - so again know what it is like

And I met someone else else and marry in a couple of months

For us no 5 worked so now have a dd almost 3. She will be flower girl

So glad you have found someone and you to uou whether to have a child free wedding or not

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 13/03/2020 14:30

@Blondeshavemorefun that's amazing. Congratulations on your little miracle ThanksStar

xxxemzyxxx · 13/03/2020 16:47

Sorry in advance for the long post! I’m sorry to hear you’re in this situation OP.

You are not unreasonable to be thinking logically about what your priorities are going to be once your baby is here, and there is a big possibility that attending a wedding fairly soon after the birth is not something you are going to want to do anyway, your body will be in the process of healing, you will be tired and a lot of new mums are reluctant to leave their newborn.

With that said, I am an ex-wedding coordinator and I can sympathise (only a little bit) with friend 1. Don’t get me wrong, she is not going the right way about it by shutting you out and being immature, but before you try and tell her exactly what your thoughts on her behaviour are, try and see it from her point of view.

Two of her closest friends (one of which is her maid of honour) have told her they may not be in attendance at the wedding she has been planning for 2 years. Despite how selfish it sounds, even the most reasonable person would have a hard time to not feel disappointed or upset. On the other hand a reasonable person would also understand that life doesn’t revolve around their wedding.

As you say, she seems to be striving for perfection and in my experience, these brides were always the most stressed the whole way through planning, and unfortunately in that state it is hard for them to see anything else but themselves.

I can’t say what she thinks and feels, but if I was personally in her shoes I would be most miffed about the limbo you and friend 2 seem to have her in at the moment (I think this especially goes for friend 2). As I have said, it is not unreasonable for you to think realistically about the situation, but what is unfair is not giving her a definite answer, and by the sounds of it you are sort of asking her to wait and see what the situation is, which is so close to her wedding date. Saying you might not be able to go doesn’t help an already stressed bride. Weddings cost money and a lot of the time are charged per person, venues and caterers often need final confirmation of numbers 2 weeks (sometimes even a month) before the wedding date and after that the couple will be charged for those numbers, if guests drop out after that the couple lose the money. Also there is the last minute rearranging of table plans, placecards, etc that is not pleasant for any bride near her wedding day.

I would let her cool off for a while, hopefully she will get her head straight and start understanding it from your point of view as well.

During that time I think it would be wise for you, and especially friend 2 to have a good think about your response to her wedding invite so you can then go to her with a clear cut answer. It is her choice whether she wants babies there or not (not uncommon anymore, there are quite a few couples that do not wish to have crying newborns at their wedding) and it is not unreasonable of her to put this rule in place but unfortunately she has limited how much you can be apart of her day, if at all.

I would say if you can’t be without baby for a few hours either to attend the ceremony or maybe visit as an evening guest (don’t know if using a breast pump could be an option? So someone else can feed your baby while you are out for an hour or so) then just say sooner rather than later that as much as you want to be there, you will have to decline her invite completely.

Friend 2 especially needs to think about this as she is maid of honour (more cost involved with things like dresses, fittings, etc). As much as your life doesn’t revolve around her wedding, neither does her life revolve around your babies. Friend 2 needs to weigh up whether she will take the risk of saying that she will attend the wedding (which can be hindered if she does end up going into early labour and that can’t be helped) or whether she wants to play it safe and potentially not go at all. Friend 1 deserves to have the chance to chose a new maid of honour who she can rely on to support her on the day.

I recently attended my cousins wedding where my other cousins wife was due to give birth around 2 weeks after. They declined the invite as they felt it was too risky in case the baby came early. The baby didn’t come until 8 days after the wedding but taking the risk wasn’t worth it to them.

I myself am 10 weeks pregnant and am due 2 weeks after one of my oldest friends wedding. Until I know how I will have my baby (may need to have an elective c section) I will have to think about whether I feel I can attend her wedding.

It does sound like you are trying your best to be involved, but let her cool down, have a think about what you are going to do, then try and talk to her again. If she keeps acting the way she is, then let her make her bed and lay in it. At least you have done what you can and are not keeping her in an uncertain state.

On the other hand, I don’t really understand why friend 3 is jumping on the band wagon, there is no need for her to. I would think once she’s there they will have a good time.

Again, sorry for the long post! I do hope whatever you do, the situation sorts itself out and ends up ok for all of you.

glennamy · 13/03/2020 18:39

YANBU at all... Life changes esp. over a 2-year wedding wait... Have a chat with her but be honest if she does not like it TOUGH SHIT!

Your baby (and its arrival) is far more important than her rules!

pavlovarules · 13/03/2020 18:44

I was amongst the last of my friends to get married. My hen do was just dinner as 4 friends were BF young babies (all between 4 and 6 months old so slightly less demanding than newborns) and 3 were heavily pregnant. Two of the pregnant friends didn't make it to the wedding, one with a baby a few weeks old and not up to it, the other went into labour on my wedding day.
I did feel disappointed that my hen was not as much of a party as everyone else's had been, I was disappointed that close friends couldn't make it to my wedding (which was child friendly btw) but accepted that my life stage was slightly behind theirs. We always said we'd have a huge night out/weekend away at some point to make up for it.
I would cut your friend some slack, let her know that you are disappointed to be missing out on her big day, after all it's the most important thing to her right now. She is driving a hard line with no babies on site but maybe organise an afternoon tea or something similar before the wedding to show her that you care and want to celebrate with her.
I admit that I wasn't always very understanding about life with newborns until I had my own but we've all managed to keep in touch and still have good friendships.
Friend 3 should definitely go to the hen and not 'take sides', it's not her battle to fight.

Localocal · 13/03/2020 22:07

Childless people really don't get what having a new baby is like.

Write her a note telling her that she may not realise this but new babies need to be fed every 2-3 hours, and a lot of mums are not able to pump feeds in advance. You have no idea whether you will be able to pump extra feeds -- many, perhaps most, mums who breastfeed easily struggle with the pump. And even if you are one of the lucky ones who can it is still risky to go that distance from your baby in case something happens and you can't get back before the pumped milk runs out. So there is no physical way you can come her wedding at all if the baby doesn't come along to the venue and hang with your mum in the lounge. Tell her she is important to you and you really want to be there to celebrate her wedding with her, but you can't leave your baby without food. So it is up to her whether she would rather have you there or have a bab- free wedding venue. Those are the only realistic options and you will respect her choice whichever way.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 13/03/2020 22:42

Childless people really don't get what having a new baby is like

Bollocks. We know. We empathise.

We can still decide we don't want children at our wedding.

RealLifeHotWaterBottle · 13/03/2020 23:30

Childless people really don't get what having a new baby is like

Bullshit. Perhaps your range of understanding is limited to personal experiences only but don't tar everyone else with the same brush.

MadameMeursault · 13/03/2020 23:53

she has said no children on site at all

That’s ridiculous. I wouldn’t go for this reason alone.

JorisBonson · 14/03/2020 08:17

@Localocal

Or she can respect her friends wishes to have a childfree wedding?

Mummyoflittledragon · 14/03/2020 09:34

Of course she can decide no children including babes in arms. But she cannot simultaneously strop as is happening in this situation

Pamalarrrr · 14/03/2020 09:36

Has nobody mentioned the fact Friend 2 actually planned her pregnancy?! I do think out of all 3 of you she is the one who has behaved worst. Don’t accept maid of honour duties and then deliberately do something that could/will upset her best friends day. She at leat could have held off so she was no more than 5/6 months pregnant at the time of the wedding.

@christmasathome

I was expecting a grin emoji at the end of your paragraph. But no, you actually ARE serious?? People should have their children to suit a friend's wedding?? I have heard it all now Grin first class Grin

sageandroses · 14/03/2020 10:56

@christmasathome

Jesus Christ imagine being as self-centred as this!!! NO ONE CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THEIR LIVES UNTIL MY ONE SPECIAL DAY IS OVER!

Surprise surprise other people's wedding days aren't the centre of everyone else's worlds!

Fedupofdoingit · 14/03/2020 12:58

@Pamalarrrr

”Has nobody mentioned the fact Friend 2 actually planned her pregnancy?! I do think out of all 3 of you she is the one who has behaved worst. Don’t accept maid of honour duties and then deliberately do something that could/will upset her best friends day. She at leat could have held off so she was no more than 5/6 months pregnant at the time of the wedding.

@christmasathome ”was expecting a grin emoji at the end of your paragraph. But no, you actually ARE serious?? People should have their children to suit a friend's wedding?? I have heard it all now grin first class grin”

Really, you really think that someone who accepts the position of MOH, one of the most important roles at a wedding, should happily go ahead and deliberately get pregnant, so she is due to give birth around the time of her best friends wedding!

I think this is very selfish! I completely agree with @christmasathome

Fair enough not putting off ttc for 2 years, but surely if not pregnant before say 10/11 months prior to the wedding, stop ttc for around 5 months, so that any pregnancy doesn’t affect the wedding. If you’re not willing to do this for your best friend don’t accept the role of MOH!

malificent7 · 14/03/2020 13:02

She's a selfish bitch....seriously? She should be delighted for you hoth.

malificent7 · 14/03/2020 13:03

Why the hell should anyone plan their babies round other people's nuptuals?...i've heard it all now!

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 14/03/2020 13:27

Why the hell should anyone plan their babies round other people's nuptuals?...i've heard it all now

God no and besides nit everyone is able to get pregnant quickly. However, if I was MOH and was TTc I'd warn the bride that I might not be able to be her moh and so allow her time to find someone else.

christmasathome · 14/03/2020 15:34

I wasn’t saying anyone should plan their ttc around anyones wedding. But if you accept an important role in someone’s wedding party tell them you plan to ttc or just don’t around that time. Op wasn’t clear but I didn’t get the impression friend 2 had been trying for a long time and struggled to conceive and just happened to final fall then which would be a totally different story. Op seemed to make out that friend 2 had just stay ttc and fell quite quickly. Personally that is not something I would have done.

My children were well planned but even then the first took over a year to conceive- if I had been in that position I wouldn’t have accepted bridesmaid/maid of honour duties or made sure the bride knew of my plans. I don’t think its unreasonable to think of others plans when you also plan your own.

InescapableDeath · 14/03/2020 17:52

I'd be more worried about coronavirus getting in the way if I was her...

People fall pregnant, it's not the end of the world, and I think brides panic about tiny babies when they are at the most portable and easy to ignore. But it is her wedding, so if she wants to lay down the law she can. But she can't be surprised if not everyone makes it.

DisasterousManagementPlan · 15/03/2020 13:57

Really, you really think that someone who accepts the position of MOH, one of the most important roles at a wedding, should happily go ahead and deliberately get pregnant, so she is due to give birth around the time of her best friends wedding!

It's being a bridesmaid, not taking on leadership of a large corporation. It's just a wedding (and I say that as someone planning one). People need to get a grip about what it actually is.

And even if it were some Very Important Job, you'd be totally entitled to maternity leave.

eggofmantumbi · 15/03/2020 22:35

I got married about a year before my lovely best friend. She was my bridesmaid and I was to be hers. After she asked me, knowing how broody we are, she actually said to me that if I got pregnant she'd be over the moon and we'd figure it out. That's a normal friendship.....

mencken · 16/03/2020 15:56

...and people of normal intelligence, not stroppy twelve year olds in a frilly frock.

biwinoone · 17/03/2020 13:48

At times like these I am grateful for our asian weddings. Every one from 2 days old baby to 90 YO grandma is invited and it's party for all. I have seen some amount of craziness in the brides but not as bad as weddings are mostly paid for by parents and they get more say in the planning.

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