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To be this upset over Caroline Flack?

337 replies

RA890 · 16/02/2020 22:27

I just can't stop thinking about it. Has really knocked me sideways. Been sort of just floating around feeling weird about it all weekend.

Anyone else??

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Greydove28 · 16/02/2020 22:30

Yes me too. Its so upsetting she wasnt supported properly

Notgoodatchoosingnames · 16/02/2020 22:31

Me too.
Same age as me. And 6 months ago i woukd have said she had a great life.

Skysblue · 16/02/2020 22:33

It is sad.

But sad things happen every day. Horrible murders, starvation due to poverty, tragic young lives ending etc etc

To be harsh, a person you never met has died, and that happens every day. It’s just the media banging on about it so much because she was one if them. Stop reading the articles and feeling stuff for something that is really nothing to do with you.

Frownette · 16/02/2020 22:42

It is sad, but for her friends, boyfriend and family. There must be something about her you identify with.

Shows how harmful intense media scrutiny.

Does anyone know what police 'body cam footage' is? Saw it in an article earlier and was puzzled as I've never heard the term before.

LionelRitchieStoleMyNotebook · 16/02/2020 22:42

This happens day in day out, most people preparing to go to trial for a domestic abuse offence are castigated, told they should be locked up or worse, people facing the justice system often have mental health issues they have little access to support nhs provision is shocking, many offenders have experienced trauma and the women often have been victims of various types of abuse from a young age. How about we don't just give sympathy because she was attractive and famous, how about we have empathy for all people in similar situations.

z0fl0ra · 16/02/2020 22:43

@Frownette I believe it’s the little body cameras police wear when on duty (although not all will have them I believe) but if you watch crime programmes etc when you see them arresting people in their homes that’s usually recorded on police body cam footage!

LionelRitchieStoleMyNotebook · 16/02/2020 22:43

@Frownette most police wear small cameras on their uniforms which record when they attend call outs, it's for evidential purposes and also ensures proper behaviours from the officers

islandislandisland · 16/02/2020 22:44

@Frownette it's footage shot by the cameras police wear on their chests so body worn cameras

RA890 · 16/02/2020 22:47

I don't think I identify with her really, just totally shocked that this is how it has ended. She must've felt that the body cam footage was going to publicly completely ruin her, whatever was on it.

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BecauseReasons · 16/02/2020 22:47

I don't know. I think some people tend to try and use the tragedies of others to garner attention for themselves. I guess YANBU if you're quietly sad about it, or if you actually knew her, but if you've only ever seen her on TV or the stage yet are wailing about her loss all over social media for the likes and shares, I think it's in rather poor taste and YABU.

Frownette · 16/02/2020 22:48

Oh I didn't know they had cameras!! Next time I see a police person I'll get my make up on

RositaEspinosa · 16/02/2020 22:50

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ReadyForActionRyderSir · 16/02/2020 22:50

OP I could have written your post. Something kind of resonates with me For some reason about Caroline. We were the same age and it makes me so sad to think she thought that was her only option. I can't stop thinking about it either, never watched LI so not like I was a massive fan oranything.

RA890 · 16/02/2020 22:51

God no, I haven't posted on Social media or anything like that, not really my thing. My partner thinks it's outrageous that I'm so shook by it, but I haven't discussed it with anyone other than him when I read the news.

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Bezalelle · 16/02/2020 22:52

I wonder if all the people who are upset about Caroline Flack get equally upset about the fact that an average of 15 people a day commit suicide in the U.K

Clearly not, as presumably she doesn't know them. Caroline was in the public eye so of course her death is going to have a wider impact. Stupid comment.

PineappleCocktail · 16/02/2020 22:53

I don't know either. I find it a bit weird that usually when someone ends their life family and friends etc are told it's not their fault, that person was mentally ill and it was something they'd have done regardless. But in this instance the fingers of blame are being very squarely pointed in several directions as though it were cut and dried that we all know why she did this. My mates on Facebook are posting constantly about it (one has posted 6 times today) but none of them knew her personally - who knows what was happening in her private life, and in her mind, or what historic trauma she may or may not have suffered, for it to come to this.

Newnamewhodis1 · 16/02/2020 22:54

@rositaespinosa I do, yes. I find suicide devastating and hard to process no matter who it happens to. An old friend killed themselves at a train station I use most days and I think about him almost every time I'm there. Suicide is so desperately sad. The reason people are so upset about Caroline is that she was familiar. We 'knew' her. It doesn't take away from how awful every other suicide is

TokyoSushi · 16/02/2020 22:55

I understand what you mean OP, I think it's because she's the same age as me and it all feels like it was so avoidable and didn't need to happen.

Of course I didn't know her, nor did I watch Love Island but it has made me re-think the 'is it necessary, is it kind?' I'm not always great at doing that and I will try harder.

Deathgrip · 16/02/2020 22:55

I think it’s sad that nobody seems to give a shit until something awful happens.

I think it’s sad that I’ve seen people calling for boycotts of papers like The Sun now, rather than every time they behave appallingly.

I think it’s sad that are 17,000 comments worth of ongoing threads on MN alone vilifying another woman in the public eye who in the grand scheme of things has done nothing wrong.

I find people’s hypocrisy very sad indeed.

RA890 · 16/02/2020 23:10

I think most people are aware that the tabloids are utter trash @Deathgrip.

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 16/02/2020 23:14

I wonder if all the people who are upset about Caroline Flack get equally upset about the fact that an average of 15 people a day commit suicide in the U.K.

I am finding the numerous posts on here and other places really ghoulish. Suddenly now people want you to talk to them, their door is always open, they are a place to cry etc. As if.

If they really think they are being genuine with all this, and not just virtue piggybacking off the CF news (and this threads are just grim) then where were these posts this time last week, last year? Talk has never been cheaper.

Why are (some) people so loudly proclaiming their own sensitivity and then sharing links and images with incorrect phone numbers on? The people gushing all over them are just as bad too.

Leflic · 16/02/2020 23:18

I think it’s really shocking. However she had friends staying over with her because of her mental health, loving parents nearby and was under the GP. If that’s not enough then what can anyone reasonably do?

PurpleDaisies · 16/02/2020 23:20

I find this mass grief and elevation of Caroline Flack to some sort of saint (in the same way as princess diana was after her death) a bit disturbing really.

It feels like fake virtue signalling to me.

HelloAgainYou · 16/02/2020 23:23

What I don't understand is that she was so violent with her fiancé the police felt the need to prosecute even though he didn't want them to and she had form for assault with a previous boyfriend.

Whilst it really is sad that someone felt the need to commit suicide, had she been a man she would have been treated very differently and been accused of purposefully avoiding her trial. Why is that? I believe equality needs to benefit all not just women.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 16/02/2020 23:24

I lost my stepdad to suicide last year. Life has never been the same since. I still get angry and guilty. With hindsight I could have made seemingly unconnected decisions that day which would have stopped, or postponed his actions.

She was so young. I keep thinking about her poor family, her parents. Suicide destroys more than one life.