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My manager just sent me a ridiculous email!

217 replies

ItalianinLondon · 28/01/2020 21:25

I've been off work sick for the last 3 weeks on my GP's insistence (I have lupus and had some viral things going on and GP said not taking time off would be a bad idea).

My line manager has been calling me at various points during this period and, to not make the story overly lengthy, called (from a blocked number) on Friday evening and I couldn't hear anything wheni picked up, assumed it was a cold call and hung up.

She then sent me an email yesterday accusing me of childish and insulting behaviour, because I'd clearly, quote, stuffed the phone under a pillow and pretended I couldn't hear when I realised it was her.

Obviously it is not something I would do, however tempting it might be... so I denied it, and we got into a bit of a back and forward by email.

I said it was a very insulting allegation and that she should apologise, to which I got:

"As for pretending that you couldn’t hear me on the phone, I know what I heard, and I was convinced that you answered and then made a pretence. I was shocked beyond measure that a colleague could behave like that. It embarrasses me to talk or think about it."

Although she has clearly managed to talk and think about it quite a lot...

Anyway, I contacted HR today and said I found it really weird for her to make totally demented accusations about me (paraphrase). They were clearly quite shocked when I said what was in the email and asked me to forward the emails.

Should I do it?? Without her consent? I hate to make a big fuss, and my bad temper has simmered down now, but seriously, I think she has gone a bit crazy over this and it is kind of concerning!

OP posts:
ItalianinLondon · 28/01/2020 23:24

Yes, still on sick leave till the end of the week.

I have to admit, I did do the whole sanctimonious "my main concern is that she doesn't think it's okay to behave like this to the people she manages" thing when I spoke to HR Wink

And thank you for backing me up... when you've been off work for a bit, you start to wonder if you've got a skewed perspective! DH was all like "I'd be BLOODY FUMING!" but he's a bit of a drama queen and fond of the odd expletive (hence DD telling her class at school that the new prime minister is called Fucking Boris Johnson - "Daddy talks about him a lot...").

OP posts:
EarringsandLipstick · 28/01/2020 23:27

hence DD telling her class at school that the new prime minister is called Fucking Boris Johnson

😂😂😂 that's brilliant OP!

36degrees · 28/01/2020 23:30

Please give your union rep a quiet heads up. I was bullied by my manager while I was on sick leave via phone and email and HR put it down to duty of care and that my manager was concerned for my wellbeing which is why she was making numerous "attempts to contact me"/"clarifying my expected return date" - she wasn't, she was phoning every day to say I would be sacked if I didn't come in, even though I was signed off and Occupational Health had supported it. I had no idea it would escalate, and was glad I had my rep on board from the outset.

HouseworkAvoider10 · 28/01/2020 23:34

You should get back up from your union.
She's nuts.

BillHadersNewWife · 28/01/2020 23:36

And stress is the last thing you need with Lupus! Put it to the back of your mind...or even better, out of it. The HR will deal with the woman.

SorryDidISayThatOutLoud · 29/01/2020 00:10

You need to tell your union. They can let you handle is - as you are - but just in case it escalates they really need to know what was going on from the beginning. Just good to have someone in your corner.

goingtotown · 29/01/2020 00:30

How could she call from a blocked number? Just curious.

SpoonBlender · 29/01/2020 00:35

@goingtotown It means the number calling you has hidden its callerID, so you can't tell who it is. Not that their number is blocked from contacting you.

Interestedwoman · 29/01/2020 00:35

I'm glad you've forwarded the stuff. She could've tried to cause you some shit or something.

Feel better soon. xxx

Pixxie7 · 29/01/2020 00:44

What she is doing is illegal so definitely pass them on.

VenusTiger · 29/01/2020 01:20

Also send a screenshot of the call in the call log to show it has no number OP.

Homebird8 · 29/01/2020 02:12

Glad you have forwarded the emails. I suspect that like letters they belong to the recipient so it may put your mind at rest over your concerns about consent.

AndThenThereWereSeven · 29/01/2020 02:17

You need to do it to protect yourself in future. She sounds unstable and they may be looking out for her too or know something about her health that you don't.

AndThenThereWereSeven · 29/01/2020 02:19

Hadn't RTFT.

"Fucking Boris Johnson - "Daddy talks about him a lot..."

GrinGrin

Beautiful3 · 29/01/2020 02:22

Yes of course send them.

Rosspoldarkssaddle · 29/01/2020 02:22

And if you did stuff it under a pillow...so bloody what? It was during your sick period, signed off by a medical professional, from an unknown number and after work hours.

RantyAnty · 29/01/2020 03:24

No, she shouldn't be bothering you at all while out.

The email is beyond bizarre.
Glad you sent it to HR.

OutOntheTilez · 29/01/2020 04:19

Oh God, another crazy boss.

I dealt with one for years, and he almost broke me. So I feel sorry for anyone put in that position.

Glad you’re forwarding the emails to HR. The woman should absolutely not be contacting you during sick leave. Hope it all works out for you, OP.

Pollyhops · 29/01/2020 05:22

Wow! Glad you’re forwarding them. Would also speak to union as HR can be a bit hit and miss.

Nikhedonia · 29/01/2020 08:36

Will be interested to see what HR reply with....

Blahblahblah12345 · 29/01/2020 09:14

Once I had 2 long periods of time of work in one year. The first time my boss phoned a couple of times to check up on me in the first week but I didn't answer. He didn't get Arsey with me, he just waited for me to get in touch with him. He was genuinely checking I was alright though. The second time I was a lot better with keeping in touch. But not once have I ever been sent an email like that. Really unprofessional

Celticrose · 29/01/2020 09:18

Most definitely forwardcthem to HR but I would also keep your union in the loop in case HR don't do their job. The union will definitely have your back and you need to look after yourself. Contact the union and say that you are passing the e-mail to HR and will keep them informed of the outcome. Just keep them in the background so to speak.
Years ago when I broke a bone in my foot. I was in plaster and the dr gave me a note for 4 weeks for starters. At least they phoned weekly but why? I was in plaster and nothing changed each week. They did like to micromanage but at least I didn't get accused of anything. Later longterm sick was dealt with by occupational health. I did hear of someone being harrassed by their manager when off with stress and they were dealt with. The manager that is. I worked in a big organisation and over the years some managers were lovely and some let's say not so lovely.

katewhinesalot · 29/01/2020 09:20

It's going tio be difficult tio work with her from now on. I'd be involving your union if hr's response is anything but conciliatory.

SunOnAll · 29/01/2020 09:27

Who would think "I can't hear the person I've phoned ... They've clearly stuffed the phone under a pillow." ?!

Confused
IntermittentParps · 29/01/2020 09:30

You did the right thing, OP. She's bullying and harassing you and I think she sounds unhinged. If HR are worth their salt (and want to avoid expensive and stressful legal action from you) they will sort it.

the new prime minister is called Fucking Boris Johnson made me LOL Grin

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