Anyone found guilty you think is innocent?

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Lots of crime series around lately.

It does make you think especially ones where people have been accused of murder but there was no body or DNA.

Edward Earl Johnson. Wrongly executed. Watch 14 Days in May on iplayer. Breaks my heart.

Adnan Syed (series one of Serial).

I work in a prison and I know there are innocent people in prison but perhaps not for a reason you may not have thought of.
For example , we all know there are families around that might be ' challenging ' to the police. Dad has been in prison, sons go in and out of prison . Then the up and coming younger brother might start going in his brothers footsteps petty crime etc . He gets arrested . One of the older brothers will then admit the crime and go into prison to keep the younger brother uncharged for as long as possible.

Its the other way round for me.
Guilty but found Not Proven.

I have always felt Amanda Knox was innocent. I couldn’t understand the strange sexual motive the Italian police came up with.

I have always thought that Rudy Guede acted either alone or with others, not Knox and her boyfriend.

Another for Amanda Knox. Never felt evidence sufficient enough to frame her and have gut feeling she did not do it.

i know Cliff Richard was acquitted but I never believed he was guilty

That poor chap maligned by Elon Musk who lost his suit against him - God knows how.

Yes a few. Cases of mums gone to prison for salt poisoning, latter found not guilty. (Doctor found to have read or represent details incorrectly.). Another one was when child had brittle bones but again parents accused. Children event taken into care and although in at least one case when the conviction was quashed they still didn,t get the children back as they had been aprooved for adoption on false info and so now had a new family. Hence why I am VERY against the death penalty

“ i know Cliff Richard was acquitted but I never believed he was guilty

Cliff Richard has never been arrested, charged with or tried for any criminal offence, so I’m not sure what you mean by this comment.

Are you confusing him with someone else?

I'm very involved in a local case, a man who was convicted of murdering his wife.

I don't know how I feel about Adnan Syed's guilt, but I know with certainty I wouldn't have found him guilty based on the evidence that was presented to the jury.

I would be very hard-pressed to find someone guilty of murder in absence of a body. For me, the absence of a body is reasonable doubt. Unless there was other VERY compelling evidence.

@steff13 what do you think yo the Margaret Fl

Sorry Margaret Fleming case

I was just about to mention the Margaret Fleming case

I found the BBC programme about it last week absolutely fascinating, and absolutely got my mind whirring

I absolutely think those convicted are guilty, however I'm not at all sure they should have been found guilty. If that makes sense?

There was so little solid evidence other than the letter. Everything else was circumstantial.

I've not heard of it (I'm in the US). I'll take a look, though.

@SheSawHorsesHorsesHorses

You don’t believe Amanda Knox is guilty but think Cliff Richard is? What an oxymoron.

The Margaret Fleming case - I believe the 'carers' that were found guilty of her murder know a lot more than they are letting on. I have a horrible feeling that they brutalised her for years before she died.

Her bed hadn't been slept in for so long there was a fine layer of dust on it. Even if one of the carers said she had slept in it the night before she disappeared.

I suspect her body is in the sea inlet at the bottom of their garden and has long since been washed out into the open ocean.

If not them, then who...……..?

@UrsulaBirkin Absolutely agree. It’s one of the saddest programmes I’ve ever watched. One of the moments that really got me (and there were a lot) was when Edward Earl Johnson said his goodbyes to the film crew - just heartbreaking.

Michael Stone.

Barry George. He was Fulham's village idiot. A complete fantasist who pretended to be Freddy Mercury's cousin. There's no way on hell he could have killed Jill Dando in a professional style hit. He would have peed himself with fear and fumbled the gun like Fredo in The Godfather. I reckon if he tried to shoot the ground, he'd miss most times.

If he somehow had managed to do it, he could never have kept it to himself, he would have been boasting about it to anyone down the pub who would listen.

Utterly preposterous that he was ever convicted at all.

@Namethecat why do the older brothers want to keep the younger ones out of prison? Or is that a stupid question?

From love I guess?

David Morris, Clydach murders. He was convicted of murdering his ex partner, her two daughters and her mother. They were beaten to death and the house set alight.
She had been having and affair with a female police woman who was married to a police man and his brother was also in the force. It’s long thought that it was a stitch up as the crime scene was “forensically cleaned”. There is a book written about it.

Kalifa, there is NO evidence that points at Amanda Knox being guilty at all, hence her release. Do you think if the Italian police had a single thing to go on she would be free? It was quite clear that Rudi Guede was the murderer in that case.

I'm quite intrigued by the Jeremy Bamber case as there are a few unanswered questions. The Sion Jenkins was a weird one too.

I don’t think he is innocent by any means before anyone jumps on me but I was surprised that Rolf Harris was convicted on the evidence put forward. There was that many inconsistencies in the victims story’s which I do think was prob down to a lot of time passing and them trying to blot everything he did to them over the years.
I am glad he was because he is obviously as guilty as sin.