Anyone found guilty you think is innocent?

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Lots of crime series around lately.

It does make you think especially ones where people have been accused of murder but there was no body or DNA.

I'm fairly certain Luke Mitchell, convicted of the murder of Jodi Jones is innocent. I think he has another appeal coming up soon as well.

Adnan syed I think did it, the phone mast evidence did it for me but I'm going to listen to serial again so I might change my mind.
Bamber I'm not sure. I definitely don't think the sister did it.
Knox I don't think did it but will read the links upthread.
Sion Jenkins is a piece of shit for sure and the podcast I listened to made me think he did it but again I would be interested to see other points of view, he comes off to me as a terrible narrcissist and they never admit guilt even when presented with evidence so his cries of innocence are not convincing to me from that perspective.

Amanda Knox is guilty as hell. I read a book written by Meredith Kercher’s father and so many evidence points at Knox

There was no evidence at all that suggested Amanda Knox was guilty. No DNA from her was found at the crime scene. Rudy Guede is the guilty one, his DNA was all over Merediths room.

@Mindblowninbrisvegas I remember that murder in Clydach as had relatives living that way.

Wasn't the lesbian lover arrested along with her husband ?

My opinion is that often, the future of somebody who is actually innocent yet accused is down to whether the defence or prosecution is better at debate and manipulation of the facts.

That’s so accurate. Also how personable your legal-eagle is has an impact

I worked with someone who’d been on jury duty and all she kept talking about was how rude the prosecutor was and how nasty he was. She will completely have allowed that to play a part in her decision

I was always surprised sion Jenkins conviction was overturned, I think he was guilty

Dave Lee Travis. I was there at the incident he was accused of and the accuser was a friend of mine but she did not recount events as they happened.

I also think Levi Bellfield was responsible for the Russell murders.

Tillygetsit

I wonder what motivated her to lie? or maybe she misremembered it, having been a historic incident.

misspiggy19

I believe Cliff Richard was innocent and am glad he was exonerated or whatever the word is. His accuser was not a reliable witness and the story just seemed implausible.

Amanda Knox is clearly innocent.

I never believed Amanda Knox was guilty. She behaved oddly but guilty of murder? Nah.

Less sure about Steven Avery...

@Lemononachair

And the fact that he’s been sentenced to life without parole is chilling. At the age of 27, to know you will be in prison forever, until you die, with no possibility of ever having that decision overturned, is beyond most people’s worst nightmares.

i read a book written by Meredith Kercher’s father

I wouldn’t describe that to be the best source for your opinion - it would hardly be objective.

They didn’t find her DNA anywhere on Meredith’s body or the bedroom. She was certainly immature and didn’t comprehend the seriousness of what had happened quickly enough - but that doesn’t make someone a murderer. And she was charged before the DNA was tested and found to be Rudy Guede’s.

Cliff Richard has never been found innocent. All that happened was that CPS said there was not enough evidence to go to trial.
Lots of innocent and lots of guilty people's cases are rejected at the CPS stage. A friend was multiply raped and CPS said there was not enough evidence against those she knew had done it, to proceed to a court case.
Cliff Richard won a court case against the BBC about the coverage of the searches of his property. The court was not considering whether he had committed any offences.

Another one is Kris Maharaj, who has been in prison for 33 years for a murder he didn’t commit.

I realise that Cliff Richard case never went to court (so he was found neither guilty OR innocent) but my inclination is that he is guilty - similar situation for William Roach (and I banned Corrie being on in my house as a not very effective protest because I feel so strongly about it)

@TinklyLittleLaugh I completely agree about max clifford

Derek Bently is an example of someone who was found guilty (conviction now quashed) and subsequently hanged when it was blatantly obvious that he was innocent. Whilst Posthumous recognition is welcomed, it is too little too late and a black stain on our justice system.

yes, derek bentley and probably timothy evans too. very sad.

Robert Pruett, wrongly executed.

karencantobe As I said previously, am only going by the news reports, so am not saying you are wrong. But the particular accuser had a story which seemed very odd and also was considered to be an unreliable witness.

I think when it comes to sexual abuse, when it is something that accusers are trying to recall from decades ago, the memories can be very innaccurate. I suspect there are many cases where the acuser gets the identity of their abuser wrong. Having said that, I do not deny that there are also many cases of more recent sexual assault where the accuser just isn;t believed, due to lack of evidence or whatever other reason. I never reported my childhood sexual abuse for that reason.