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Bored of teacher friend banging on about how hard her job is

388 replies

JustACog · 11/01/2020 17:52

Friend's a teacher and I'm tired of the chat about how her job is harder/longer/more stressful than everyone else's.

Almost every conversion now gets round to her moaning about how much she's overworked how much time she spends marking or planning. I do believe there is a lot of work involved in teaching and it's not a job I could do but I'm fed up of it being laid on thick. Fed up of the martyrdom around the sacrifice she's making for the children

CF said to me that I'm lucky to have my job (nurse full time shifts in A&E) as I just get to switch off when I leave and she's on the job from dawn to dusk.

AIBU to call her out on this, really feeling like I'd like to ask her what she really thinks other people do that's so much easier than teaching.

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Powerfulpam · 11/01/2020 17:54

😂😂 someone actually thinks that any nhs staff just switch off when they leave?

WorraLiberty · 11/01/2020 17:58

God, a teacher versus an NHS nurse.

Don't go there with the competitive 'I'm so overworked', as that one will run on and on forever.

Just tell her to change the subject because you're fed up of hearing it.

Or maybe not since you started this thread? Grin

GiveHerHellFromUs · 11/01/2020 18:00

You get people like that in every profession.
Overworked, underpaid blah blah.

Yes it's a lot of work being a teacher. No she doesn't need to remind him every time she sees you. Yes she can find a new job if it's that bad.

TheGreyInThisCity · 11/01/2020 18:00

I was leaning towards YABU until I read that you’re an A&E nurse! I also work in the NHS and to be honest I don’t think it’s easy for anyone in the public sector at the moment, everyone is overworked, everywhere is underfunded. Generally though making out that your job is the hardest ever (like what your friend is doing) is unhelpful, but maybe she’s really struggling?

fluffyjumper · 11/01/2020 18:03

I'm an nhs nurse, your friend needs to get a grip. We all work hard but to day that to you just shows the lack if respect she has for nurses. I would change the subject if it comes up again.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 11/01/2020 18:03

YANBU
Tell her she’s lucky she has those long paid holidays 🤣🤣🤣

Tunnocks34 · 11/01/2020 18:05

Yanbu. I’m a teacher and I don’t think it’s any near as hard a job as nursing.

She sounds like a professional martyr to be honest l.

Tunnocks34 · 11/01/2020 18:06

She must be thick though - obviously nursing isn’t a job you can just shut off from.

PlomBear · 11/01/2020 18:06

Yay another teaching bashing post!

Duvetdweller · 11/01/2020 18:06

I have a friend who does this and it drives me nuts - I want to scream at her to change her job if it’s as awful as she says it is. I also have another teacher friend who clearly adores her job (even though there’s clearly very difficult points to it) and I always think I hope my kids are taught by teachers like you!

Undies1990 · 11/01/2020 18:07

Try and change the subject if she starts moaning. Ask her what other profession she wants to go into ... surely if teaching is THAT bad, she's got a Plan B in the back of her mind?! Keep that question on repeat and she'll get the message that you won't want to hear her endless 'woe is me' tales.

Oh, and HUGE thanks to you and the NHS for what you do. Amazing staff, especially in A&E. Respect.

Janaih · 11/01/2020 18:09

I have a teacher friend like this. It is tedious. Tbf though she does go the extra mile for her students.

Helbelle17 · 11/01/2020 18:10

I'm a teacher, and it is hard work, lots of work in the evening and at weekends. (But yes, holidays!)
However, they are plenty of jobs that are hard, for various reasons. I couldn't work as s nurse or paramedic for example. That level of responsibility would terrify me.
It's really not a competition, friends should support each other.

cptartapp · 11/01/2020 18:10

As an NHS nurse I sympathise. Remind her its less than two weeks since and less than six weeks until the next lot of several paid days away from the workplace. Me and you probably get five to six weeks a year. Teachers have a hard job but aren't the others ones to take work home by a long way.
My SLT teacher friend will freely admit she isn't on the job from dawn till dusk. Maybe your DF needs to rethink her methods.

canijustaskonemorething · 11/01/2020 18:11

I have a friend who did that.

We’re in Scotland and teachers got a 10% pay rise so are on £40,000 at the top of their salary scale.

She soon shut up when she was reminded of that

Cornettoninja · 11/01/2020 18:12

If she’s that bad I’d be overly sympathetically suggesting she looks for another job because it doesn’t sound like it’s for her. Every single time.

I’m not a teacher (know a few who thankfully are pretty rounded people who don’t bore on about their jobs - like normal people) but even I know it’s unlikely to change.

I admire the profession and have a lot to thank particular teachers throughout my education but I don’t particularly want a teacher with a Joan of Arc complex teaching my dd either.

Letsallscreamatthesistene · 11/01/2020 18:12

Im also an A+E nurse and quite frankly she can do one. Does she get to sit down during her working days? Thought so, we dont.

Im with you, this would annoy the shit out of me

Winterwoollies · 11/01/2020 18:13

She sounds boring and self involved. As a nurse in the emergency department of an NHS hospital, I’m pretty sure you win on stress and being overworked. She doesn’t have to deal with death, disease and high-pressure situations every day. She sounds like a professional moaner.
I like the idea of pointing out she’s lucky to get long, paid holidays. 😈

Dancingontheedge · 11/01/2020 18:14

I’m a teacher, tell her!
I find whinging annoying from any source, but if you say nothing, nothing will change.

BubblesBuddy · 11/01/2020 18:16

It seems to be teachers that moan all the time though.

I think that many thought it was an easy ride until they actually started doing the job and then found it was more difficult and required more time than they thought.

Unlike many jobs, the opportunity for part time work is great. The pension is still great and it’s definitely got decent pay at the top end. It’s even more rewarding if you are in a cheap housing area and have a partner in an equal paying job. At least you wouldn’t need two jobs!

The other huge advantage is that it’s a job for life if you want it to be. So few private sector employees can say this. It’s also not zero hours contracts. She has a lot to be grateful for. You could remind her of her good fortune.

Also others work very long hours. Possibly away from Home or with lengthy travelling requirements. My DD frequently works 7am to 10 pm. Self employed. Perhaps your friend would prefer this and make her own pension arrangements without any employer contribution?

SoloMummy · 11/01/2020 18:19

Tell her to either put and shut up or find an alternative job....

PumpkinP · 11/01/2020 18:21

I also have a teacher friend like this. She can’t accept that anyone else has it hard as it’s always Soooo much harder for her because “she’s a teacher”. All she does is complain about how overworked and underpaid she is. When I dared to say that maybe she should change jobs if it’s so hard I got a mouthful!

1Morewineplease · 11/01/2020 18:22

The trouble with teachers is that they hardly ever leave the classroom. From five till end of uni they are in a ‘classroom’ then they go off to work , in a classroom.
It’s hard for teachers to understand the real world where most work longer hours for four weeks off a year.
Factor in all the non-contact time..PPA, subject leader time, year leader time, etc... makes you wonder a bit.
( Yes... I work in a school.)

Reenskar · 11/01/2020 18:22

I’m a teacher. She sounds like a knob. It’s not a competition. It’s hard not being able to switch off and feeling like you’ve never done enough/could always do more, but I’d take that over some of the harrowing things that must stay with you as an A&E nurse any day.

If she brings it up again I’d just say it was getting tedious and change the subject- just make it clear you don’t want to talk about it. People who constantly talk about work are boring anyway.

Really sorry but it has to be said in any teacher-bashing post for the avoidance of doubt......the holidays ARE NOT PAID.Hmm

Dancingontheedge · 11/01/2020 18:23

No, it’s not just teachers that moan.
I get particularly fed up with women complaining about their husbands and partners, yet never actually doing anything about it. It’s tedious and boring.I don’t want to hear about it.
Make a scorecard, 10 complaints and she owes you a gin.