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Dividing the mental load?

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Dividingthementalload · 04/01/2020 12:38

I have name changed as with other details from previous posts this is highly identifying!

My husband is a kind person, genuinely not a nasty bone in his body. But he is naturally quite selfish and thoughtless, which I’ve always put down to boarding school syndrome and having a mum who was unable to physically love because of childhood abuse. He was cared for but was never cuddled - his mum couldn’t do it. He’s come out of childhood pretty well despite this.

However, he is a totally useless partner when it comes to kids and house etc. He was ’that’ dad who didn’t know how to strap the car seat in and never learned. He has a massive job, loads of travel and rarely there in the week. Very hardworking, very long days, rarely whinges. A very high earner too which makes our life very financially comfortable and for which I am very grateful.. I was in the same field but after going back after baby 1 we realised two couldn’t do this and also actively parent. I went part time and eventually changed my job and went self employed to facilitate doing all the wrap around care. I actively wanted (and want) to do that, but I do find it hard work sometimes as I am completely on my own in the week. Although my work is very part time, I have the kids the rest of the time so apart from two sessions during school hours where I do a gym class, I am either working, looking after the kids or doing the odd household thing during school hours like food shopping on way back from a meeting. I literally never sit down.

As a result, it has become the norm that he carries no mental load at all. He does no shopping or cooking for us or the kids so has no idea what they eat or when. If he does offer at weekends, he’ll say ‘what shall I do for the kids’ which drives me insane- beans on toast or a sandwich is always fine yet he feels the need to ask rather than just do it. if he does do something family oriented, which is rare, he says things like ‘shall I put the washing away for you’ like it’s all my bloody stuff when it’s simply the family washing. He almost never puts washing on. if he does he never takes it out so it needs rewashing. He has no idea which clothes belong to which child So putting things away is more painful if he’s constantly getting it wrong Or saying ‘whose trousers are these’ every 30 seconds. He puts their clothes in my pile and vice versa which makes me furious - does he not see me? Does he not see his kids and what they are wearing?

Christmas was ok. He is always mad busy in the run up and so I did all the gifts as usual ( he has never bought the kids anything or been involved). I also bought my own two gifts for him to wrap up as the kids would be mortified if I was left out. We got him gifts too. This is the first Christmas Ive genuinely not minded as he was ridiculously busy and working weekends too before the Holiday and for his health I genuinely wanted his spare time to be relaxed/gym rather than shopping for gifts which he is genuinely terrible at.

Yesterday came to a head. I had asked him to work out how to work one of the kids‘ gifts. I had purchased, wrapped and organised absolutely everything, when unwrapped it was me who looked at all the instructions and set everything up, he did none of this. Neither of us is very good at it but I do it for the kids. I said to him before new year, this particular set up is your job (I’d reached the end of my mental load present tether and wanted him to step up frankly). He still hadn’t done it this morning so I did it. It made me so cross because, for me, it represented everything - every meal this holiday that I organised, every wash I’ve put on, every pile of crap he’s walked past and I’ve dealt with Instead, every job I’ve done that he hasn’t seen. He escapes to the garden to do work which I don’t think it essential (he says it is but he always takes the radio and listens to the sport so it’s definitely a manoeuvre too) and ducks out of the important stuff like what to feed the kids. I’m also becoming resentful about the gift thing at Christmas because although he had no time before Christmas, he did go to the gym etc, and now that I’m cross with him I’m thinking that he should have bloody taken an hour of time and bought me a bloody present which he had actually thought about himself. I know this last bit is unreasonable as I told him it was totally fine and he took me at my word. but I’m so cross about everything else that it’s colouring my view of everything to be honest.

He doesn’t do nothing. He does do bath time and supervises teeth in the evenings ( I had to say last year that taking a paper in wasn’t appropriate when he hadn’t seen his kids all day, I had to say that they were quite good fun to talk to and it was important they see him being interested in what they say). He has taken them swimming today and does so every Saturday (he swims lengths while they are in lessons, that’s the incentive I think). So he’s not completely useless but It’s a mental load thing. Aibu though to want to divide up the mental load stuff more when there are two of us around? I’ve told him I want to talk later and this is my plan:

He needs to take half ish of the mental weekend load. that means he organises food for the weekend in its entirety as I do the working week. If he plans it ahead of time I will shop for it (incentive to plan ahead there but I know he won’t) but otherwise it’s his job to shop for the ingredients too. And that includes kids lunches as well which are easy peasy. For the whole weekend. I also want to say he needs to actively look for jobs like putting the washing on/away, bedsheets, tidying etc at the weekends when there are two of us here. Finally, I want to say we get a gardener to do the jobs he does at the weekends/holidays - I genuinely think it’s a cop out manoeuvre and I want to stop ducking out of family life. He says the gardening is a pleasure for him, which is fine but not if it’s at the expense of leaving me inside to sort out every meal/homework/washing/life while He trims trees.

Is this a reasonable Plan? Even if it’s not i feel so much better just writing that out. Sorry it’s long.

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venusandmars · 08/01/2020 09:57

Absolutely correct way to do it @dividingthementalload It's all too easy to revert to type - you seeing what needs to be done and doing it, and him being busy on 'an exciting new project' (with the gardeners) and being able to ignore the mundane needs.

We were booking a holiday recently and although we were making the decisions together, I was the one who was researching flight options and making the booking before the prices went up / seats became unavailable, and when looking at hotel options, I was the one checking availability and booking a special dinner - the dinner was a priority for me so I didn't mind. But I made dh responsible for some of the surrounding arrangements - car hire, sorting out our parking at the airport, travel insurance etc. I may have been able to get a cheaper deal on the car but now it's his responsibility to sort out timings for getting to the airport, arranging DVLA codes, finding our way to the car hire centre, and driving while we're on holiday (although we will share the driving he's in the lead on it). I know he will forget about the DVLA codes until the last minute. I'll probably remind him a couple of days before but I'm not actually going to do it.

Copperleaves · 08/01/2020 12:00

"this is not part of mental load, it’s yours"
The correct, mumsnet approved phrase you are looking for for this is "not my circus, not my monkeys" Grin Used a lot chez nous.

Dorsetcamping · 08/01/2020 22:20

@Dividingthementalload bloody hell this could be me (minus the big bucks earning DH)

I have taken myself off to bed early as am currently seething with resentment at his lack of awareness; meanwhile the kitchen is a bomb site and he is sat with DS who should've been in bed hours ago, watching some shite on TV. It's literally like unless I am there nagging giving instructions, nothing gets done. Laying here making bets with myself predicting what time he will eventually twig that DS has school tomorrow.

Like a PP, this goes in cycles of about 6 months. Building resentment, accusations of nagging, explosion, promises to step up, approx 2 weeks honeymoon period where he can't do enough and then quick sliding back to square 1.

Not just like having a 3rd child, worse than!

BraveGoldie · 09/01/2020 12:25

Glad to hear you are making a bit of progress and absolutely don't jump in to rescue. Unfortunately he may have a high tolerance for chaos and discomfort though. Fingers crossed.

By the way I am not sure boarding school explains it. I went to boarding school from age 12 and I think it was a major factor in making me independent and self sufficient - ie extremely competent at taking care of myself and managing life.,...... the opposite of expecting to be mothered and have someone else carry the mental load...... From age 12, it was my responsibility to my finances, studying, organization, cleaning of myself and my room, nutrition etc and not turn to others for help.

Dividingthementalload · 10/01/2020 07:36

Thanks Brave, I’m glad it didn’t affect you. I do think there’s a big difference between 8 and 12 though. He was just a baby. He doesn’t whinge at all but can remember the trauma of being left, and then nothing for many years. Think he unintentionally blocked it.

But things are good. This week has been immeasurably different. Not perfect, he’ll still step around stuff, but doing way more than his fair share voluntarily which is amazing.

Dorset - can only suggest you do what I’ve done? It wears you down doesn’t it.

Venus - he usually books the hire car under instruction on holidays. Last year he couldn’t find the details before we left. I had to sort it out as otherwise we wouldn’t have had a car she would have to have paid out another grand. I had to track down the company as he couldn’t remember which one. I can’t tell you the panic. It made me so cross. And that’s how our holidays always start. I’m already thinking how to tackle the next one with the new leaf in mind

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