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Women and fox hunting

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greentreefrog · 04/01/2020 09:59

Name change for this but regular poster.
Seeing all the fox hunting activity on social media over Christmas and New Year mainly the shocking incident in North Yorkshire where a hunt supporter repeatedly hit the hunt protesters car with a dead fox.
There was a few women and young children in the group supporting the hunt, why? I don't understand how anyone can support chasing terrified animals and letting dogs tear them apart. Even if they dont take part themselves they must know if their partners go out 'lamping' or badger baiting. How they can live with themselves.
AIBU to think these women are brainwashed by their partners?

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meatandcrustypies · 04/01/2020 10:00

Yanbu because everyone knows women can’t possibly have any free will or thought of their own BiscuitBiscuitBiscuit

Fox hunting is disgusting and the women who partake are every bit as bad as the men.

Fairylea · 04/01/2020 10:01

I don’t think it’s a men / women issue. It’s just a cruel selfish cunt issue. People of both sexes can be arseholes.

Squigean · 04/01/2020 10:01

Women can think and make decisions all by themselves. They've chosen to be there by their own free will.

The children, probably not so much.

Pardonwhat · 04/01/2020 10:01

I’m not going to bring my, quite complicated, views on hunting into my response.
But - why do you think women are so weak that we need a man to tell us what is ok? Confused

Dangerousminds · 04/01/2020 10:02

What’s being a women got to do with anything??? It’s awful for anyone to do!

Mrsjayy · 04/01/2020 10:03

Do you really think it is only men who enjoys blood sports and can be stirred up by it all ?

SummerPavillion · 04/01/2020 10:04

While I think women are on average kinder (nature/nurture who knows?) of course there will be some women who support hunting of their own free will.

TARSCOUT · 04/01/2020 10:05

They're all cunts regardless of sex, gender, age, whatever, hate the bastards.

Samcro · 04/01/2020 10:05

women have been involved in hunting for years.

SummerPavillion · 04/01/2020 10:05

I could never be with a man who hunted, he certainly couldn't brainwash me. I feel sorry for women whose partners hunt and they wish they didn't. Cruel trait imo.

Frouby · 04/01/2020 10:09

Hunting is horsey. Lots of women are horsey. Therefore, women hunt too.

I'd love to go hunting, it's an ambition of mine and has been since I was a kid. But I don't want to actually hunt a fox. I want the ride across country and the adrenaline rush and the tick on my bucket list. But have absolutely no interest in actually killing a fox.

That's not to say that I think that the fox population should be left unchecked. I just think that shooting them cleanly is a better way to do it.

But yeah, back to the point. Women hunt too. I suspect most people that hunt these days do it for the same reason I want to. I don't think they actually want to catch a fox. Just along for the ride.

Dahlietta · 04/01/2020 10:12

I suppose you feel the same about women at football matches?

Queenoftheashes · 04/01/2020 10:18

What on Earth are you on about? My friend fox hunts. I don’t like it but she insists foxes are vermin. She’s single and has always done it as she’s into horses. No partner to brainwash her.

AravisQueenOfArchenland · 04/01/2020 10:18

Fox hunting is disgusting and the women who partake are every bit as bad as the men.

^This.

I could never be with a bloke that was cruel to animals, and I'd go out of my way to report to police, or name and a shame if I found out anyone I knew was doing that.

Maybe things were different in the past, when it was harder or impossible for women to escape cruel or abusive husbands, and they didn't know them as well before marriage.

Willow2017 · 04/01/2020 10:25

Oh yes women can't do a damm thing without being told to by a man!

Don't be ridiculous. Women have always been involved with fox hunting from earliest times why are you targeting only them?

Why is it up to women to be the moral police of every man? Women are not a blanket species of upstanding citizens whos job is keeping the world a wonderful place and keeping those nasty men in thier place! Women can be just as ignorant and just as violent as men on occasion.
They are all as bad as each other regardless of sex.
You can get the thrill of the ride through the country with drag hunting without killing anything. Or just go for a good long ride out without chasing anything?

ghostyslovesheets · 04/01/2020 10:28

I agree op - women should stay in the kitchen where they belong - The Hunt is no place for the little lady in your life 😂😂😂

SuperFurryDoggy · 04/01/2020 10:32

I used to ride with the hunt as a teenager. My parents don’t hunt, so it was my female friends and female owner of the a horse I used to ride and look after that would have influenced me. I didn’t really talk to any of the men because I didn’t know them all that well.

The only voices opposing fox hunting back then were the same voices that opposed eating meat. I can’t remember giving the issue much thought, but I suppose if I’d been asked I would have considered it to be a bit like vegetarianism; a valid opinion with a valid counter opinion. We lived in a farming community and the only contexts in which foxes were ever spoken of were negative, eg. keeping them out so they couldn’t kill the chickens, friends coming into school upset because a fox got their chickens, make sure the bin lid is on securely or you’ll attract foxes, etc. Shooting and poisoning other pests (rats, moles, etc) was a normal part of life, so I’m not surprised that the idea of killing foxes did not seem strange.

Now, as an adult, I think that fox hunting is unnecessarily cruel and supported the ban. Shooting is far more humane, and living our lives in such a way as to discourage their over-population (not leaving food waste where they can get it and so forth) is the gold standard. Regarding blood sports in general, I’m on the fence. My FIL shoots pheasants and I’m always happy to take and eat what he kills as I figure their lives are no more miserable than supermarket chickens (even so-called free range ones - I see how they actually live).

I’m sure I’ll be flamed for this, but I thought it might be interesting to give a view from behind enemy lines, so to speak.

Billben · 04/01/2020 10:32

I’m not surprised you’ve name changed😂

What a stupid post.

Aragog · 04/01/2020 10:45

AIBU to think these women are brainwashed by their partners?

Women are usually capable of making their own choices. Not all women are under their male partner's control. Not all women are gentle timid creatures. Not all women are against hunts.

Why do you think women might not choose to go on a hunt themselves?

Scarsthelot · 04/01/2020 10:48

I live rurally. I know many women who hunt pheasant etc.

They do it off their own back.

When will people stop making women out to be child like. Some women do things that other people think is wrong. Like some men do. Those women are able to make the decision without being led by a man.

Do you presume women who do things you agree with and do things that are seen as 'good' have also been influenced by a man to do it.

MaJoady · 04/01/2020 10:56

Not wanting to get into the all-hunts-are-a-cover-for-illegal-activities debate, but OP, you do realise there is different types of hunting and not all involve killing? Some packs just drag hunt where the only things they hunt is an aniseed scent trial...

Also both sides are marred by the actions of deeply unpleasant individuals: super purist hunters on one side and sabs on the other. The super purists still hunt fox illegally, sabs have killed horses and hounds before (probably inadvertently, but still).

MaJoady · 04/01/2020 10:58

Oh and sabs are NOT hunt opposers or indeed hunt monitors (who are both fine). Sabs refers to the lowlife subsection who sabotage a hunt, often in unpleasant ways,which can be dangerous: eg jumping out at passing horses to spook them.

MiseryChops · 04/01/2020 11:00

I thought fox hunting had been banned years ago?

Disillusioneddaisy · 04/01/2020 11:00

Regardless of gender, anyone who enjoys the brutal death of an innocent animal in the name of sport and tradition is a cunt.

Sickening that children were there though.

I honestly cannot get my head around how hunting is still a thing. People defending it saying 'I hope you don't eat meat then' as though it's in any way comparable. I've said it before and I'll say it again - if a bunch of tracksuit wearing youths from a council estate chased and killed a fox they'd be jailed. But because it's the rich middle class it's 'tradition'. No, it's barbaric and you are scum if you support or participate in it.

Pardonwhat · 04/01/2020 11:03

Disillusioneddaisy

Personally, I think people who eat eggs from caged hens are far worse Smile