Women and fox hunting

[greentreefrog]

Name change for this but regular poster.
Seeing all the fox hunting activity on social media over Christmas and New Year mainly the shocking incident in North Yorkshire where a hunt supporter repeatedly hit the hunt protesters car with a dead fox.
There was a few women and young children in the group supporting the hunt, why? I don't understand how anyone can support chasing terrified animals and letting dogs tear them apart. Even if they dont take part themselves they must know if their partners go out 'lamping' or badger baiting. How they can live with themselves.
AIBU to think these women are brainwashed by their partners?

What an absolutely dumb sexist post. Utter shite.

Personally, I think people who eat eggs from caged hens are far worse

Yes, I’d love to leave those people in a caged hen facility overnight to change their idiot minds, hopefully.

Heavens above, can't you people see that the OP is absolutely right and is in no way trying to use the plight of the poor ickle wickle fox to spout a load of sexist codswallop without getting flamed.

Remember the rules:

If you see a man doing something of a morally dubious nature, you must immediately excuse him and start looking for the woman who is really to blame for his behaviour.

Maybe his wife didn't forbid him.
Maybe his girlfriend wasn't engaging enough to keep him busy.
Maybe his Mother didn't raise him right.
Maybe his Nanna spoilt him and didn't make him say please and thank you.
Maybe his sister refused to share her toys with him.

One or all of these must be responsible for the poor man feeling a need to kill a defenceless animal to make him feel whole again.

Women, know your place, to be responsible for every one else's behaviour and to take the blame for all the bad stuff.

Just for clarification, yes, I am being sarcastic.

Presumably the "antis" have never ridden a horse.I suggest that you do,because you will not need to do anything else to get your thrills,especially in the middle of a hunt.
Personally,I have killed many foxes in towns whilst driving a train,want to abuse me too ?

Seriously what has gender got to do with it. Why does anyone need to support fox hunting, and what makes you think they my have been brainwashed.It,s patronising to women thinking they can,t think or act for themselves.

Presumably the "antis" have never ridden a horse.I suggest that you do,because you will not need to do anything else to get your thrills,especially in the middle of a hunt

Yes....I used to hunt a lot. Luckily Ive evolved to where my thrills do not come on the back of chasing and slaughtering wild animals all over the countryside with a pack of hounds, and generally causing disruption chaos, distress and mayhem for the general public trying to go about their daily lives.

Hang on, my husband's back now, I'll ask him what I should be thinking - got a bit ahead of myself earlier and made the mistake of answering for myself without his input.
Brb

Actually most hoarse people I met are anti fox hunting. Classof66.

@dadof21 Oh you trot then love...cant possibly have you offended by all the cunts frequenting the forums snowflake

Where there are horses there are women op. Yabu

and quite honestly on a site which can be frequented by Women?? I am sorry but the posters using the word should be dealt with accordingly by the site administrators!
WTAF?
Bloody hell women aren't aloud to swear now? Who decided that? Oh yes I forgot we shouldn't do anything without being instructed brainwashed by men!

Pesumably the "antis" have never ridden a horse.I suggest that you do,because you will not need to do anything else to get your thrills,especially in the middle of a hunt

Wtf does that even mean?
I have riden plenty times there's nothing quite like It, galloping over fields is fab but there was never a pack of braying hounds in front of me nor a terrified fox running for its life.
Oh and there are plenty other hobbies to give just as much satisfaction to people as riding does.

I presume you weren't driving your train off the rails to chase a fox! It was presumably unavoidable. You do sound strangely proud of this 'achievement' of killing foxes though.

the "antis" have never ridden a horse.I suggest that you do,because you will not need to do anything else to get your thrills,especially in the middle of a hunt

That’s a nice little story to tell yourself isn’t it? That all us antis are clueless townies. Actually I used to race in point to points, worked on a hunting yard, have ridden horses since I was 5yo and when younger I hunted. I’m now very, very anti fox hunting. I’ve seen it with my own eyes and it makes me sick. And yes, it still goes on.....totally illegal fox hunting.

"Yes of course it is the sabs who are a menace"

When masked thugs are attacking animals and people in the name of animal rights, of course I don't listen to them

If they see anything illegal, then film it all and report to the police,
but I suppose that's not so much fun as being a thug

What on earth has being a woman got to do with it?! Jesus Christ.

Wonder how these so called hunters would feel to be dropped in the middle of the savanna and see how they like being hunted down by the lions! There is something seriously wrong with someone who gets pleasure from watching a small defenceless animal being torn to pieces! Disgusting inhumane filth who have no place in a civilized society!

Gender is irrelevant! Just a bunch of ignorant soul less wicked scum

When masked thugs are attacking animals and people in the name of animal rights, of course I don't listen to them

@BigChocFrenzy
I find this constant diatribe bullshit from the hunt community fascinating. They are out in force with their camera phones and the hunt 'stewards' with hand held cameras filming sabs every move every week and yet no footage to show all these attacks on animals and people by sabs. Absolute shed loads of footage.convictions of violent conduct from hunt members though. All very odd really. You would think they would be flooding social media with all this filmed thuggery.....oh, wait.................

Then what are the hunt saboteurs doing ?
SInce you seem to know them so well

I hunt. Definitely not brainwashed!

Then what are the hunt saboteurs doing ?SInce you seem to know them so well

I could ask you the same question

But I think we both know they are not attacking people and animals

Yes, the only footage I see is of sabs being attacked. Being blocked in by 4x4s when they’re driving on the public highway, having horses ridden into them, having manure dumped from a tractor all over their car, having their car windows smashed, having dead foxes smashed against the side of their car.

There’s numerous hunt members who have been found guilty in court of assault, etc, one sab had their neck broken a couple of years ago! When you google for hunt supporter guilty of assault the list of hits is exceedingly long, I’ve given up copying and pasting after a few. And these are the ones found guilty, there’s loads more where the police say there isn’t enough evidence. When I google for hunt sab found guilty of assault I’ve found one. I’m not saying it’s the only one but it’s the only one I can easily find. Not condoning it, nobody should assault anyone but it seems the sabs are more peaceful than the hunt supporters.

www.huntsabs.org.uk/index.php/91-news/archive/204-hunt-master-guilty-of-serious-assaults-escapes-custodial-sentence

inews.co.uk/news/uk/two-belvoir-hunt-men-convicted-of-seriously-assaulting-animal-rights-investigators-512047

www.wildlifeguardian.co.uk/hunting/hunt-convictions/

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cheshire-hunt-fox-hunting-protester-beaten-video-police-a8705761.html

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fox-eaten-alive-hunting-dogs-9628041

metro.co.uk/2019/03/14/huntsman-convicted-hunting-fox-assaulting-saboteur-8905951/

And as for attacking animals, I really don’t think sabs do at all. When the hounds of one hunt got onto the a14 the sabs were doing everything they could (more than the hunt) to get them off. They were distraught at the death which occurred. By all accounts the huntsman didn’t look too bothered at all.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6478769/Saboteurs-film-horrifying-moment-hound-killed-car-smashed-hunt.html

My issue with MN and their "opinion" on blood sports is that 90% of the posters have absolutely no concept or understanding of what they are offended by.

Foxhunting evolved out of a need for predation control, that need stills exists today. Hunting is favoured over snaring and rifling because the hunted fox, if fit and healthy, will outrun a pack of foxhounds and therefore the old and injured are the foxes which are culled - it's a proven way of controlling a healthy population of Fox which can't be replicated by snaring or rifling. We do need predation control in this country because fox no longer have natural predators.

The above is a statement of fact, it's not opinion. It's the underpinning concept of hunting - the vast majority of people who oppose fox hunting can't understand that, but then as the vast majority of people are not actively managing the countryside, it is of no consequence to them either way.

Quite asides from the fact that the OP is incredibly patronising and apparently not equipped with the brain cells to understand that people will have differing views in life, she's also very ignorant on the subject on which she's posting.

Frillyfarmer- professional, female, mother but with differing views to OP and therefore submissive and brain washed.

@WhatshouldIdo123

With regards to hunt sab behaviour, they have and they do distress horses, in the name of protecting a fox. I know this because I have been on the recieving end of it.
I have ridden all my life and do not hunt or have any input into the community. Due to this (not knowing when and where the hunt meets etc) I happened to be riding very close to a hunt moving through one afternoon, I had no idea they were out, and my young horse was pretty overwhelmed already with the sight of horses galloping nearby and got himself a bit wound up. I tried to take a path back to find it blocked by sabs who proceeded to shout, wave flags and make grabs for my horses bridle. I was wearing old jeans and wellies and a fluorescent jacket - which should have been their first clue I wasn't involved. Any sab who knows their stuff knows there's a dress code on the hunt field and what I was wearing wasn't it. I asked them to stop, and said I wasn't part of the hunt, to which I was sneered at. Yes, you're bloody right I raised my whip and told the masked thug that was hanging from my horses bit (in his mouth, and he was being hurt - I know how to use a bit properly so I don't hurt the horse) he better let go before I laid into him.
He let go and I had to get off and lead my terrified, shaking horse home. He still spooked at that spot right up until he retired last year.
I'm not part of a hunt, don't support them, but I absolutely do not support endangering other animals in the pursuit of saving one either. I dread to think what could have happened had that been a less experienced rider or a child.
In my eyes they are no better than the hunters themselves using tactics like that and yes, I reported it to the police.
Both groups out that day were doing things I don't agree with, but only one put me and my horse in danger. There was only one reason for it - they believed me to be a middle class snob because I was on the back of a horse, and for many on both sides that's what it boils down to, a class war.

No they’re not brainwashed....just arseholes