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To leave because of DSS

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AngelKate22 · 06/11/2019 12:50

I feel absolutely awful even writing this, but I'm just at the end of my tether. I have name changed for this.

I have been living with my partner and DSS for just over two years now. He is 16. We aren't married, but do own the house together. DSS lives with us full time apart from every other weekend.

My partner works long, full time hours plus commute time, and I work from home. So, naturally, a lot of things like housework and sorting things out fall to me. I don't mind that, I think it's fair that the partner who is home most picks up the slack. But possibly things like this wouldn't bother me if that was different. For background, DSS used to go to my partner's parents' house after school every day, and DP would pick him up after work, but with me being at home now that seems silly.

The odd thing is, DSS is actually a nice lad, and we generally get on when no incidents are happening. But it's just that there are things he does that drive me up the wall.

We are in the process of doing up the house, and he has zero respect for anything. This week, he's dyed a load of washing red and broken the new machine by putting a snapped biro (which leaked and then got stuck in the mechanism of the machine) in with his clothes (never checks pockets, so often have tissues all over the clean washing. I normally do the washing for all of us, but he didn't put any of his in the basket and demanded that he NEEDED these jeans by the next day, so I said I'm not waiting up for it to be done as it was 11pm already, so he did them with the rest of his clothes from his floor.. and ruined them all).

We've just done the kitchen up and bought a beautiful, matching set of dishes. We asked him to use the older set when making food for himself as he's a) clumsy and b) never brings things down from his bedroom. He ignores this (usually because he's ran out of plates and can't be bothered bringing them down and washing them), and we have already had to buy a new set because he's broken 2 large plates and a pasta bowl. This is because he doesn't take care, and throws things about. He will literally throw plates onto the side if we've asked him to pick them up and take them to the kitchen. But then when he's smashed things, he won't even tell us, he just leaves the pieces on the kitchen floor or wherever they smashed.

He also spilt a can of coke (which he shouldn't even have had) on our new sofa before he was going to bed one weekend, but instead of alerting me, put a cushion over it. So by the morning it had spread and completely ruined it and the cushion. The sofa had just cost us £800. I have used stain remover on it and it has helped a bit, but you can still see it.

He gets angry sometimes when gaming, and has broken a pane of glass in the lounge door (again, new) by throwing his controller at it. Also, this anger seriously distracts me from working, as he is SO noisy and angry when playing these games. He has also had to get new controllers a couple of times because his - for some strange reason - break faster than normal.

He walks into the house on the new living room carpet in his dirty shoes, which are dirty because he cuts across the grass at the front of the house instead of taking two extra steps to get to the driveway. So the new carpet is filthy, and the grass and flowerbed is trampled. We are supposed to take our shoes off in the hallway, but he always "forgets".

I leave my phone downstairs to charge at night, and if he goes to bed after me (I go quite early so often it's DSS and DP downstairs later on) DSS's phone will be plugged in in the morning as he's unplugged mine, so mine will be low, which I need for work. The issue with that is that he actually has a charger in his own bedroom, so it completely baffles me. We only have one plug in our bedroom as it's old fashioned and we haven't got round to doing that room yet, so we have a lamp plugged into it.

I have a hobby of doing jigsaw puzzles which I do on the kitchen table. He puts his college bag on top of it, and has - several times - dragged the bag off again later, dragging the puzzle with it, onto the floor. Like the smashed dishes, he leaves it. It's crossed my mind that he does this on purpose.

Then there's all the mess he leaves behind him wherever he goes. I either have to pick it up myself or nag him constantly. No amount of nagging changes it. I don't mind what his bedroom looks like, but I would like the family parts of the home to be neat and tidy, and he literally has to walk past a bin to get back upstairs to his bedroom.

He has a habit of going out after college, and having food out, when I've already cooked for the family. Or he'll say he's going out, then not going out, and then wanting food when he comes back in which I hadn't planned for. The number of times we've had to phone him (he never picks up) because we don't know where he is after college is ridiculous.

He also can't get himself up on time. He has to be out of the house by 7.30 to get the bus, and even when woken by one of us in plenty of time, he takes so much time getting ready that he misses it at least once a week. DP has already left for work by the time the bus is due, so that's then down to me to either let him be late and get another bus (I can't bring myself to do that because he gets into trouble) or drive the 30 mins there and 30 mins back that it takes to get him there on time. That then puts my work behind and has, in the past, got me into trouble with my clients as I missed a deadline.

He has started smoking. He is actually denying this, and we have never a) seen him smoke or b) found cigarettes/a lighter in his room. BUT he always smells of it and ... there are sodding cigarette burns on the wall. So either he, or a ghost, is smoking in his room and then stubbing cigs out on the wall. I mean, seriously? We've decorated that room and he's burning the wall? Other than the obvious damage which is seriously annoying, we really really don't want him smoking. There is so much education on it these days, and the dangers of it are just scary.

My car got keyed a few months ago, and next door happen to have CCTV on the front. They showed me the footage, and it was DSS's group of friends INCLUDING DSS walking home after college. One of his friends did it, and he laughed along with them. I was absolutely gutted as, like with everything else, I worked hard for that car, and like to keep it nice. He has also spilt drinks inside the car itself, keeps his muddy football boots on or putting them on the seat instead of putting them in the plastic bag I give him, leaves wrappers and empty bottles lying around. So my car is an absolute state as well, and I can honestly say that none of the mess in it, at all, is mine.

Money is a bit tight at the moment, and this is the incident that has made me write this post. My partner has been unwell recently, so I had bought him a pack of lucozade from Costco (because that's what you drink when you're ill haha) and this morning there were none in the fridge. I asked DSS whether he'd been drinking them and he said "not exactly" and laughed. I asked what that meant, and he said he'd been taking them to college and selling them for £1 each (they don't sell energy drinks there anymore). I was absolutely fuming at this, because we don't have much money ourselves (our own fault for doing up the house, but we can handle it so long as we budget) and yet he's taking things that I've paid for, and making a profit out of them? I was absolutely gobsmacked!

DP disciplines him by taking away his X Box, but this doesn't work because he will either play at a friend's house after college without asking for permission to go, and he has one at his mum's when he goes there anyway. DP also says he won't get any pocket money unless he tidies up and is respectful, but he doesn't care, as his mum and grandparents both give him money weekly, so what we give him makes no odds. He does no chores around the house, won't even wash a dish or tidy his own bedroom. There's nothing DP can do that will make a difference. We are both nagging constantly and I hate that, but what we can we do? We can't just leave things the way they are, surely. We're not asking him to be a slave for us, just to look after things and do the dishes on occasion, maybe.

Don't get me wrong, I love my partner to absolute bits, hence why I'm still here, but the problem is that he's not here a lot of the time. And that's not his fault. We both work so so hard to have a nice house and nice things, but it feels like DSS is just working against us all the time to spoil things and make things difficult.

It's so weird though because when things are good, we all get on well and have a laugh. I can't stress enough that I DON'T dislike DSS, and I honestly do my absolute hardest to make sure he has everything he needs, that he gets help when he needs it with college work, that we go on nice trips at weekends etc, but there are just all of these incidents, and damage being done, and problems. I know all families have problems, but what I've said is the tip of the iceberg. I can't say some things because they're just too obvious, but I can't live like this, wondering what's going to get wrecked next. I would totally expect this if he was a toddler, but he's not!

What the hell can I do? I am actually thinking about moving out (and hoping to goodness DP will still speak to me) until DSS goes to university. Would that be a horrific thing to do? I'm just not enjoying life at the moment, and I don't see any other way. DP is at the end of his tether with it as well, as he doesn't want to come home from work to find the house (sometimes literally) smashed up, or pay to replace things we've only just bought.. and I don't want to leave him to cope with this on his own.

I know people will say that I should have thought of that before going out with someone with a child, but I absolutely did! I was fully prepared to treat this young man like he was my own, and be either a mother figure, a sister, a friend - whatever worked. It's just that I would never have thought of this kind of thing from a 16yo that's all.

Please help me :(.

OP posts:
MaxNormal · 06/11/2019 12:55

You're a more tolerant woman than me, I would absolutely dislike the little prick.

Macake · 06/11/2019 12:57

Tbh he has zero respect for either of you. Some of that I would have put down to carelessness but add it all up and it looks intentional. The car keying is appalling, just appalling behaviour. I’d leave, I think i’d get the rages all the time living like that. Other option is family counselling?

Jollitwiglet · 06/11/2019 12:58

What are the consequences for his actions? Everything he breaks or ruins he needs to start paying for. If he makes a mess, WiFi needs to go off until he clears it up. If he can't control himself while gaming, the games need to go. If he wants food after going out, he needs to make it himself. If he misses his bus he either walks or gets in trouble for being late. As for damage to the car, maybe that should be reported to the police. Burning the wall? I would be removing his door from his bedroom

It sounds like he has no respect for any of you, but it sounds like there's no consequences to any of his actions. I would strip h of every single privilege until he learnt a bit of respect.

antisupermum · 06/11/2019 12:59

I gave up before the end I'm afraid, that was a looong post. I think he sounds like a fairly typical, thoughtless, selfish teenager from the 60% I did read.

I think his dad needs to step up and be a proper parent here. He should have a firm word with him about the expectations and household rules. DSS should also be expected to help with the chores etc. Accidents happen and anyone could accidentally make a hash of a load of washing. Its not a hanging offence but he does need to have consequences for his actions and understand why it can't happen again.
Same with the smashed plates, doors etc. What are his consequences? Is he having to pay for the repairs? if not, why not?

My kids are 11 & 10 and they help with chores and know that I will expect portions of pocket money to be recouped towards things they have broken due to clumsiness or just badness. Things aren't free and I don't have a money tree out the back.

Children are little savages and it is the parents job to teach them not to be that way. Sounds like your DSS is just being left to figure out the nuances of life on his own as his dad is never there and you're not technically in the role of parent. Why should you have to keep buying things because he hasn't been taught to take care of things?So, this is up to your DH to step up and start doing a better job of parenting, in my opinion. You don't just have a DSS issue, you have a lazy DH problem...

wineandroses1 · 06/11/2019 13:01

Can he spend more time with his DM (does he go there for 2 weekends a month?) so that you have some sort of respite?

If my child acted like him, I'd be taking away the phone, the xbox and he'd be getting no pocket money, he could get a part-time job instead and he could use that to pay for damages like the car and the sofa. No lifts if he misses the bus.

Pinkypurple35 · 06/11/2019 13:01

It’s all completely unacceptable and I’m a mum of teenage boys. The washing machine I would say is an unfortunate mistake but the rest is careless, mindlessly damaging property and downright malicious (your car). And dont take him to college if he doesn’t get up on time - it’s tough shit if he’s late.

HugoSpritz · 06/11/2019 13:02

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AnneLovesGilbert · 06/11/2019 13:02

I’m afraid I didn’t get to the end of that, it’s very long, but based on what I read of course you should move out! How would that work with the house you’re all in now?

Some of it is typical teenage thoughtlessness but your partner should be tackling it and he’s 16 - not far off being an adult - and he’s not going to change because he has no reason to. You’re going to get seriously miserable if you carry on and life will be much better if you live apart, that’s if you do want to stay in the relationship.

Quartz2208 · 06/11/2019 13:05

He sounds like a typical teenager who isnt being parented. His mum clearly doesnt bother, his Dad is barely there and your role is undefined

You and your partner need to clarify rules boundaries and consequences and enforce them

BBBear · 06/11/2019 13:06

For a start you need to stop doing anything for him - especially the lifts to college when he’s up late - let him take the bus and the punishment for being late.

Does your partner know you want to move out? You really need to talk to him about it (and in the meantime don’t buy anything new).

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 06/11/2019 13:07

I'm sorry but that's not typical thoughtless teenager behaviour as someone said. You must have the patience of a saint. I would refuse to have him in the house until he can learn some respect. Your husband needs to discipline him as well. He's clearly getting away with murder.

onthecoins · 06/11/2019 13:08

He sounds like a selfish disrespectful little dickhead.

Lifeisabeach09 · 06/11/2019 13:10

Yes, DP steps to take a firmer hand with his kid but it's hard when he is out of the house, working.
You didn't sign up to this shit--sell the house and start afresh alone.

Hanab · 06/11/2019 13:10

He needs to be made to pay for things he breaks or ruins .. what does your DH have to say? Surely once is a mistake but continuous behaviour like this especially to things that are yours are unacceptable ... he is 16 not 6 .. regarded as an adult he needs to be accountable .. as for keying your car if the footage is still available I would tell him you are calling the police and reporting it as there is evidence of who is doing it ..

If he takes your phone off the charger I would take his phone away till after school ..
he breaks a plate purposefully make him glue it back and that is his to use ..

No i am not cruel .. i have kids and have my own challenges so I know somewhat of what you are going through ..

Lots of things will be your word against his and many people will say your husbands kid comes first .. yes I would agree in many aspects however when the child is blatantly taking advantage and you are the adult responsible for him most of the day and he is a young adult who does know right from wrong he needs to be disciplined ..

He is taking you for a mug and your DH needs to address this behaviour.

Jog22 · 06/11/2019 13:10

That sounds shit. First thing you can do is just stop the pocket money. Give him an invoice for broken dishes, car scratch, damaged sofa, sold Lucozade, broken washing machine, broken window etc. If after that he still feels entitled then suggest he moves in with his mum or grandparents.

ActualHornist · 06/11/2019 13:11

‘Typical teenagers’ - that take stuff and sell for profit, smoke in the house, break doors and possessions with nary a care in the world? I think some people need to have higher expectations.

I think it’s time either he is parented so that the above isn’t happening, or you move out. He is ruining your enjoyment of your own home.

Do what @HugoSpritz says.

sheshootssheimplores · 06/11/2019 13:12

I did read it all and I would do the same as you. Leave.

Spanglyprincess1 · 06/11/2019 13:13

My sister dss was a nightmare. They cancelled his phone contract turned off the WiFi and stopped doing his washing or cleaning his room. Rule was anything on floor on a Sunday went in the bin and it was stuck to... Very very harshly stuck to.
Stopped most of the behaviour in a matter of weeks.
Your dp needs to bloody parent him as it isn't okay

AryaStarkWolf · 06/11/2019 13:14

By the sounds of the things he does, it sounds like he's trying to push you out of his and his dads life tbh. Some of the stuff is more than just teenage laziness/messiness

mooncuplanding · 06/11/2019 13:14

Do you feel like you can discipline him?

It’s often a difficult one with SC to get right but you and your do need to set the rules and consequences of his shitty teenage behaviour. It’s not totally abnormal behaviour but I’m guessing you feel powerless to do anything, which bio parents often don’t feel

Considermesometimes · 06/11/2019 13:19

He sounds like a very average teen to me.

What is your dp doing to address these issues? It is not enough to bail out on his son's upbringing due to long hours, we all work long hours and find the time to sit down with our teens and discuss things.

saraclara · 06/11/2019 13:20

The people who didn't finish the OP might have missed this:

My car got keyed a few months ago, and next door happen to have CCTV on the front. They showed me the footage, and it was DSS's group of friends INCLUDING DSS walking home after college. One of his friends did it, and he laughed along with them.

What was his father's response to that, OP?

EstebanTheMagnificent · 06/11/2019 13:21

Does your partner know that you are considering leaving over this?

The keying of your car is a police matter.

dayslikethese1 · 06/11/2019 13:22

Does he have some kind of MH issues? It doesn't sound like normal teenage behaviour to me, sounds kind of extreme. Has he always been like this? Has his dad had a word with him/laid any house rules down?

Seeingadistance · 06/11/2019 13:24

I’m so sorry that you’re having to deal with this. I started off feeling sympathy as teenagers can be hard work, even when they’re your own, but the more you wrote, the worse it got! This goes beyond thoughtlessness, and is nasty and malicious.

I’d leave. Work on maintaining the relationship with your DP, and DSS as he may grow through and out of this.