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To leave because of DSS

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AngelKate22 · 06/11/2019 12:50

I feel absolutely awful even writing this, but I'm just at the end of my tether. I have name changed for this.

I have been living with my partner and DSS for just over two years now. He is 16. We aren't married, but do own the house together. DSS lives with us full time apart from every other weekend.

My partner works long, full time hours plus commute time, and I work from home. So, naturally, a lot of things like housework and sorting things out fall to me. I don't mind that, I think it's fair that the partner who is home most picks up the slack. But possibly things like this wouldn't bother me if that was different. For background, DSS used to go to my partner's parents' house after school every day, and DP would pick him up after work, but with me being at home now that seems silly.

The odd thing is, DSS is actually a nice lad, and we generally get on when no incidents are happening. But it's just that there are things he does that drive me up the wall.

We are in the process of doing up the house, and he has zero respect for anything. This week, he's dyed a load of washing red and broken the new machine by putting a snapped biro (which leaked and then got stuck in the mechanism of the machine) in with his clothes (never checks pockets, so often have tissues all over the clean washing. I normally do the washing for all of us, but he didn't put any of his in the basket and demanded that he NEEDED these jeans by the next day, so I said I'm not waiting up for it to be done as it was 11pm already, so he did them with the rest of his clothes from his floor.. and ruined them all).

We've just done the kitchen up and bought a beautiful, matching set of dishes. We asked him to use the older set when making food for himself as he's a) clumsy and b) never brings things down from his bedroom. He ignores this (usually because he's ran out of plates and can't be bothered bringing them down and washing them), and we have already had to buy a new set because he's broken 2 large plates and a pasta bowl. This is because he doesn't take care, and throws things about. He will literally throw plates onto the side if we've asked him to pick them up and take them to the kitchen. But then when he's smashed things, he won't even tell us, he just leaves the pieces on the kitchen floor or wherever they smashed.

He also spilt a can of coke (which he shouldn't even have had) on our new sofa before he was going to bed one weekend, but instead of alerting me, put a cushion over it. So by the morning it had spread and completely ruined it and the cushion. The sofa had just cost us £800. I have used stain remover on it and it has helped a bit, but you can still see it.

He gets angry sometimes when gaming, and has broken a pane of glass in the lounge door (again, new) by throwing his controller at it. Also, this anger seriously distracts me from working, as he is SO noisy and angry when playing these games. He has also had to get new controllers a couple of times because his - for some strange reason - break faster than normal.

He walks into the house on the new living room carpet in his dirty shoes, which are dirty because he cuts across the grass at the front of the house instead of taking two extra steps to get to the driveway. So the new carpet is filthy, and the grass and flowerbed is trampled. We are supposed to take our shoes off in the hallway, but he always "forgets".

I leave my phone downstairs to charge at night, and if he goes to bed after me (I go quite early so often it's DSS and DP downstairs later on) DSS's phone will be plugged in in the morning as he's unplugged mine, so mine will be low, which I need for work. The issue with that is that he actually has a charger in his own bedroom, so it completely baffles me. We only have one plug in our bedroom as it's old fashioned and we haven't got round to doing that room yet, so we have a lamp plugged into it.

I have a hobby of doing jigsaw puzzles which I do on the kitchen table. He puts his college bag on top of it, and has - several times - dragged the bag off again later, dragging the puzzle with it, onto the floor. Like the smashed dishes, he leaves it. It's crossed my mind that he does this on purpose.

Then there's all the mess he leaves behind him wherever he goes. I either have to pick it up myself or nag him constantly. No amount of nagging changes it. I don't mind what his bedroom looks like, but I would like the family parts of the home to be neat and tidy, and he literally has to walk past a bin to get back upstairs to his bedroom.

He has a habit of going out after college, and having food out, when I've already cooked for the family. Or he'll say he's going out, then not going out, and then wanting food when he comes back in which I hadn't planned for. The number of times we've had to phone him (he never picks up) because we don't know where he is after college is ridiculous.

He also can't get himself up on time. He has to be out of the house by 7.30 to get the bus, and even when woken by one of us in plenty of time, he takes so much time getting ready that he misses it at least once a week. DP has already left for work by the time the bus is due, so that's then down to me to either let him be late and get another bus (I can't bring myself to do that because he gets into trouble) or drive the 30 mins there and 30 mins back that it takes to get him there on time. That then puts my work behind and has, in the past, got me into trouble with my clients as I missed a deadline.

He has started smoking. He is actually denying this, and we have never a) seen him smoke or b) found cigarettes/a lighter in his room. BUT he always smells of it and ... there are sodding cigarette burns on the wall. So either he, or a ghost, is smoking in his room and then stubbing cigs out on the wall. I mean, seriously? We've decorated that room and he's burning the wall? Other than the obvious damage which is seriously annoying, we really really don't want him smoking. There is so much education on it these days, and the dangers of it are just scary.

My car got keyed a few months ago, and next door happen to have CCTV on the front. They showed me the footage, and it was DSS's group of friends INCLUDING DSS walking home after college. One of his friends did it, and he laughed along with them. I was absolutely gutted as, like with everything else, I worked hard for that car, and like to keep it nice. He has also spilt drinks inside the car itself, keeps his muddy football boots on or putting them on the seat instead of putting them in the plastic bag I give him, leaves wrappers and empty bottles lying around. So my car is an absolute state as well, and I can honestly say that none of the mess in it, at all, is mine.

Money is a bit tight at the moment, and this is the incident that has made me write this post. My partner has been unwell recently, so I had bought him a pack of lucozade from Costco (because that's what you drink when you're ill haha) and this morning there were none in the fridge. I asked DSS whether he'd been drinking them and he said "not exactly" and laughed. I asked what that meant, and he said he'd been taking them to college and selling them for £1 each (they don't sell energy drinks there anymore). I was absolutely fuming at this, because we don't have much money ourselves (our own fault for doing up the house, but we can handle it so long as we budget) and yet he's taking things that I've paid for, and making a profit out of them? I was absolutely gobsmacked!

DP disciplines him by taking away his X Box, but this doesn't work because he will either play at a friend's house after college without asking for permission to go, and he has one at his mum's when he goes there anyway. DP also says he won't get any pocket money unless he tidies up and is respectful, but he doesn't care, as his mum and grandparents both give him money weekly, so what we give him makes no odds. He does no chores around the house, won't even wash a dish or tidy his own bedroom. There's nothing DP can do that will make a difference. We are both nagging constantly and I hate that, but what we can we do? We can't just leave things the way they are, surely. We're not asking him to be a slave for us, just to look after things and do the dishes on occasion, maybe.

Don't get me wrong, I love my partner to absolute bits, hence why I'm still here, but the problem is that he's not here a lot of the time. And that's not his fault. We both work so so hard to have a nice house and nice things, but it feels like DSS is just working against us all the time to spoil things and make things difficult.

It's so weird though because when things are good, we all get on well and have a laugh. I can't stress enough that I DON'T dislike DSS, and I honestly do my absolute hardest to make sure he has everything he needs, that he gets help when he needs it with college work, that we go on nice trips at weekends etc, but there are just all of these incidents, and damage being done, and problems. I know all families have problems, but what I've said is the tip of the iceberg. I can't say some things because they're just too obvious, but I can't live like this, wondering what's going to get wrecked next. I would totally expect this if he was a toddler, but he's not!

What the hell can I do? I am actually thinking about moving out (and hoping to goodness DP will still speak to me) until DSS goes to university. Would that be a horrific thing to do? I'm just not enjoying life at the moment, and I don't see any other way. DP is at the end of his tether with it as well, as he doesn't want to come home from work to find the house (sometimes literally) smashed up, or pay to replace things we've only just bought.. and I don't want to leave him to cope with this on his own.

I know people will say that I should have thought of that before going out with someone with a child, but I absolutely did! I was fully prepared to treat this young man like he was my own, and be either a mother figure, a sister, a friend - whatever worked. It's just that I would never have thought of this kind of thing from a 16yo that's all.

Please help me :(.

OP posts:
AnneKipanki · 07/11/2019 12:46

Flowers @AngelKate22 , it is going to be tough .

pinkyredrose · 07/11/2019 12:48

Did you other half work such long hours before you moved in together?

dreichwinter · 07/11/2019 12:58

Talking to dss is a good start but don't be disappointed if nothing much changes.
Deep seated attachment issues are likely to need outside help.
I would be looking for that as a priority now that you and DP are in the same page.
I do also think that DP needs to focus more time on ds.

Prevegen4U · 07/11/2019 14:17

People who believe this kind of behaviour is normal are raising the kids who are trashing the country. It's the parents fault.

EmeraldShamrock · 07/11/2019 14:24

Yanbu. I'd be seriously pissed off.
My DD is similiar when it comes to lack of care or attention she has extra needs, she knows better than to touch my fancy dishware. Wink

WithLotsOfSprinkles0 · 07/11/2019 14:27

Tell his mother and grandparents not to give him any money, that's the first thing I would do.
Then his dad needs to sit him down and tell him about the house rules and he needs to start respecting your house and yourselves. Sounds like a right spoilt brat.

EmeraldShamrock · 07/11/2019 14:33

His Dad should encourage him to have counselling, even family therapy together. He sounds lost and frustrated, his clumsy behaviour could be a nervous confidence issue. Good luck. Flowers

Runnerduck34 · 07/11/2019 14:55

Ok mum of 4 teenagers here, some ( a lot) of it is normal teenage behaviour.
the washing was an honest mistake and expecting clean clothes instantly is a typical teenage trait.
Not taking shoes off and getting mud on carpet ditto, infruiating thou it is.
Not allowed to use the same crockery as you?! That's unreasonable , teens always leave dirty plates and cups in their room , I'm constantly calling them to bring them down but if they're not home I just go in and pick up, for my own sanity mostly !

my DD is clumsy ,I would have a problem with deliberately smashed plates but not accidents.
Not allowed to drink a can of coke on sofa ?? He should have dealt with the spillage immediately but maybe he knew you'd go ape so tried to cover his tracks ,not moping up spillages drives me mad as most are easily remedied if dealt with promptly, a professional clean might sort it out but I'd be gutted to.
Shouting during computing games, my DS is exactly the same , he becomes immersed when playing with friends, have had to go in and have words about swearing.
If he'd drunk the lucozade I'd let it go , selling it for profit and I'd demand the money!
His friend keying your car and him laughing is the really awful thing here shows total lack of respect. But if you are making him use different crockery to the rest of you and not allowing him to have a drink sitting on the sofa maybe you arent showing him respect either.
I think you sound frazzled and stressed, if money is tight these things are going to get to you more and it sounds like you've been thrown in the deep end parenting wise which isn't fair.
I think.you need to take a deep breath , talk as a family and try and sort things out in a calm way. Teenager years are horrible and it must be hard work as a step parent. only you can decide if you want to commit .Good luck !

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 07/11/2019 15:35

@ScreamingLadySutch ok, I get that. I was just referring to the tedium of the question constantly being asked on these types of threads.

mencken · 07/11/2019 18:32

Regardless of the reasons for this disgusting behaviour, I'm also horrified that so many think it is normal. Leaving food and plates to rot in a room is filthy entitlement, not 'standard behaviour'. Teach your brats to tidy up because their future housemates really will hate them if you don't.

Chucking stuff around so it breaks - ditto. Not having the guts to admit he's spilled a drink and ask for help in cleaning? And then he's an actual vandal?

no wonder we have streets full of litter, huge energy waste, loud noise - they are being brought up to be selfish. And then they wonder why there's no respect for younger people.

iknowimallmine · 07/11/2019 22:29

Doesn't sound like any teenagers I know. He is downright disrespectful and malicious towards you. Seems like he is taking all his anger for him mum for leaving him on you and testing if you would leave him too. May be he does see you as a mother after all. If you love him them give him a chance and put him through counselling or have a proper heart to heart asking him what is the reason for his behaviour every single time. Spell him out to him what he has done and ask why. He should be parented both by your partner and you too. You are his parent. He is with you more than he is with his own mum so discipline him. If you don't love him enough then leave the house till he leaves for Uni. But that will just enforce it for him that mothers do really give up and leave their children.

TheMidasTouch · 07/11/2019 23:42

"Report car keying to the police, name names and show them CCTV.

Let him be late and get into trouble at school.

Don't buy new clothes to replace the ones he ruined.

No more money.
No more lifts in the car if be is not going to respect it.

DP needs to step up to the plate too!!"

This.

Also hire a rug doctor to clean your sofa. Spray first with a spot cleaner. You'll be amazed - I am pretty sure the stain will come out completely.

ReeRi · 07/11/2019 23:55

I think OP said he gets money from his mum though do not giving him money or buying new clothes doesnt help

icouldwriteabook · 07/11/2019 23:58

I’m sure I’ll be ‘in the wrong’ to many for saying this but-

You don’t need to leave, he does. He’s a big boy now with serious respect issues and how any of you regardless of relationship to him have put up with that is beyond me. I have a DSD and a DSS and none of those things above, washing included would happen under my roof. They’re young now and already have respect, boundaries, consequences and rules. We also have love and fun just like you’re describing, but that shouldn’t come after as if it’s making up for his behaviour. He has 0 respect because he has 0 consequences and that’s your partners problem. And where is his mother in all of this? Garuenteed if he moved in with her she’d be sending him straight back to you. Not ideal for his stability but people saying he’s a child, let’s be honest he’d be charged if he keyed someone’s car, so he’s an adult with 2 years until it’s ‘official’. It’s appalling OP And you wouldn’t be unreasonable to leave. I think you need a serious chat with your partner. I feel for you

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