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To leave because of DSS

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AngelKate22 · 06/11/2019 12:50

I feel absolutely awful even writing this, but I'm just at the end of my tether. I have name changed for this.

I have been living with my partner and DSS for just over two years now. He is 16. We aren't married, but do own the house together. DSS lives with us full time apart from every other weekend.

My partner works long, full time hours plus commute time, and I work from home. So, naturally, a lot of things like housework and sorting things out fall to me. I don't mind that, I think it's fair that the partner who is home most picks up the slack. But possibly things like this wouldn't bother me if that was different. For background, DSS used to go to my partner's parents' house after school every day, and DP would pick him up after work, but with me being at home now that seems silly.

The odd thing is, DSS is actually a nice lad, and we generally get on when no incidents are happening. But it's just that there are things he does that drive me up the wall.

We are in the process of doing up the house, and he has zero respect for anything. This week, he's dyed a load of washing red and broken the new machine by putting a snapped biro (which leaked and then got stuck in the mechanism of the machine) in with his clothes (never checks pockets, so often have tissues all over the clean washing. I normally do the washing for all of us, but he didn't put any of his in the basket and demanded that he NEEDED these jeans by the next day, so I said I'm not waiting up for it to be done as it was 11pm already, so he did them with the rest of his clothes from his floor.. and ruined them all).

We've just done the kitchen up and bought a beautiful, matching set of dishes. We asked him to use the older set when making food for himself as he's a) clumsy and b) never brings things down from his bedroom. He ignores this (usually because he's ran out of plates and can't be bothered bringing them down and washing them), and we have already had to buy a new set because he's broken 2 large plates and a pasta bowl. This is because he doesn't take care, and throws things about. He will literally throw plates onto the side if we've asked him to pick them up and take them to the kitchen. But then when he's smashed things, he won't even tell us, he just leaves the pieces on the kitchen floor or wherever they smashed.

He also spilt a can of coke (which he shouldn't even have had) on our new sofa before he was going to bed one weekend, but instead of alerting me, put a cushion over it. So by the morning it had spread and completely ruined it and the cushion. The sofa had just cost us £800. I have used stain remover on it and it has helped a bit, but you can still see it.

He gets angry sometimes when gaming, and has broken a pane of glass in the lounge door (again, new) by throwing his controller at it. Also, this anger seriously distracts me from working, as he is SO noisy and angry when playing these games. He has also had to get new controllers a couple of times because his - for some strange reason - break faster than normal.

He walks into the house on the new living room carpet in his dirty shoes, which are dirty because he cuts across the grass at the front of the house instead of taking two extra steps to get to the driveway. So the new carpet is filthy, and the grass and flowerbed is trampled. We are supposed to take our shoes off in the hallway, but he always "forgets".

I leave my phone downstairs to charge at night, and if he goes to bed after me (I go quite early so often it's DSS and DP downstairs later on) DSS's phone will be plugged in in the morning as he's unplugged mine, so mine will be low, which I need for work. The issue with that is that he actually has a charger in his own bedroom, so it completely baffles me. We only have one plug in our bedroom as it's old fashioned and we haven't got round to doing that room yet, so we have a lamp plugged into it.

I have a hobby of doing jigsaw puzzles which I do on the kitchen table. He puts his college bag on top of it, and has - several times - dragged the bag off again later, dragging the puzzle with it, onto the floor. Like the smashed dishes, he leaves it. It's crossed my mind that he does this on purpose.

Then there's all the mess he leaves behind him wherever he goes. I either have to pick it up myself or nag him constantly. No amount of nagging changes it. I don't mind what his bedroom looks like, but I would like the family parts of the home to be neat and tidy, and he literally has to walk past a bin to get back upstairs to his bedroom.

He has a habit of going out after college, and having food out, when I've already cooked for the family. Or he'll say he's going out, then not going out, and then wanting food when he comes back in which I hadn't planned for. The number of times we've had to phone him (he never picks up) because we don't know where he is after college is ridiculous.

He also can't get himself up on time. He has to be out of the house by 7.30 to get the bus, and even when woken by one of us in plenty of time, he takes so much time getting ready that he misses it at least once a week. DP has already left for work by the time the bus is due, so that's then down to me to either let him be late and get another bus (I can't bring myself to do that because he gets into trouble) or drive the 30 mins there and 30 mins back that it takes to get him there on time. That then puts my work behind and has, in the past, got me into trouble with my clients as I missed a deadline.

He has started smoking. He is actually denying this, and we have never a) seen him smoke or b) found cigarettes/a lighter in his room. BUT he always smells of it and ... there are sodding cigarette burns on the wall. So either he, or a ghost, is smoking in his room and then stubbing cigs out on the wall. I mean, seriously? We've decorated that room and he's burning the wall? Other than the obvious damage which is seriously annoying, we really really don't want him smoking. There is so much education on it these days, and the dangers of it are just scary.

My car got keyed a few months ago, and next door happen to have CCTV on the front. They showed me the footage, and it was DSS's group of friends INCLUDING DSS walking home after college. One of his friends did it, and he laughed along with them. I was absolutely gutted as, like with everything else, I worked hard for that car, and like to keep it nice. He has also spilt drinks inside the car itself, keeps his muddy football boots on or putting them on the seat instead of putting them in the plastic bag I give him, leaves wrappers and empty bottles lying around. So my car is an absolute state as well, and I can honestly say that none of the mess in it, at all, is mine.

Money is a bit tight at the moment, and this is the incident that has made me write this post. My partner has been unwell recently, so I had bought him a pack of lucozade from Costco (because that's what you drink when you're ill haha) and this morning there were none in the fridge. I asked DSS whether he'd been drinking them and he said "not exactly" and laughed. I asked what that meant, and he said he'd been taking them to college and selling them for £1 each (they don't sell energy drinks there anymore). I was absolutely fuming at this, because we don't have much money ourselves (our own fault for doing up the house, but we can handle it so long as we budget) and yet he's taking things that I've paid for, and making a profit out of them? I was absolutely gobsmacked!

DP disciplines him by taking away his X Box, but this doesn't work because he will either play at a friend's house after college without asking for permission to go, and he has one at his mum's when he goes there anyway. DP also says he won't get any pocket money unless he tidies up and is respectful, but he doesn't care, as his mum and grandparents both give him money weekly, so what we give him makes no odds. He does no chores around the house, won't even wash a dish or tidy his own bedroom. There's nothing DP can do that will make a difference. We are both nagging constantly and I hate that, but what we can we do? We can't just leave things the way they are, surely. We're not asking him to be a slave for us, just to look after things and do the dishes on occasion, maybe.

Don't get me wrong, I love my partner to absolute bits, hence why I'm still here, but the problem is that he's not here a lot of the time. And that's not his fault. We both work so so hard to have a nice house and nice things, but it feels like DSS is just working against us all the time to spoil things and make things difficult.

It's so weird though because when things are good, we all get on well and have a laugh. I can't stress enough that I DON'T dislike DSS, and I honestly do my absolute hardest to make sure he has everything he needs, that he gets help when he needs it with college work, that we go on nice trips at weekends etc, but there are just all of these incidents, and damage being done, and problems. I know all families have problems, but what I've said is the tip of the iceberg. I can't say some things because they're just too obvious, but I can't live like this, wondering what's going to get wrecked next. I would totally expect this if he was a toddler, but he's not!

What the hell can I do? I am actually thinking about moving out (and hoping to goodness DP will still speak to me) until DSS goes to university. Would that be a horrific thing to do? I'm just not enjoying life at the moment, and I don't see any other way. DP is at the end of his tether with it as well, as he doesn't want to come home from work to find the house (sometimes literally) smashed up, or pay to replace things we've only just bought.. and I don't want to leave him to cope with this on his own.

I know people will say that I should have thought of that before going out with someone with a child, but I absolutely did! I was fully prepared to treat this young man like he was my own, and be either a mother figure, a sister, a friend - whatever worked. It's just that I would never have thought of this kind of thing from a 16yo that's all.

Please help me :(.

OP posts:
KurriKurri · 06/11/2019 13:42

Can't believe people saying this is average normal teen behaviour. It is so unfair on all the many many teens who are respectful sensible kind and thoughtful. Which mine were as were most of htier friends.
His behaviour is intolerable (aside from obvious mistakes like the washing mix up) but breaking your jigsaw (almost certainly deliberate) smashing doors throwing his controller around, keying your car? Totally totally unacceptable. I'd be inclined to print your OP out like a letter and show it to your DH - there's no way you should have to live like this, it is your home too, you are paying for it, you are entitled to have it respected and to be able to relax in it.

Firstly - is there a strong reason why he has to be with you not his mother? If it is just his preference then I'd get him to move back in with her and you be the one's that have him at weekends instead.
I would report the car keying to the police - tell him you'll be showing them CCTV of the incident. Again this was obviously a deliberate piece of nasty behaviour directed at you.
I would stop doing his washing, feeding him when he doesn;t tell you whether he's going to be home for dinner (a 16yr old is well able to make themselves a meal if necessary)
I would stop taking him into college - let him be late and get into trouble, then he might stop doing it.
If he throws his controller at windows/doors etc. Take away his controller and his console - he's not mature enough to cope with the games.
Make him pay to have the sofa professionally cleaned.
Make him pay for breaking your dishes.
Don't take him on weekends out when he shows you no respect.

Tell your partner what you have said here - you are at the end of your tether, normal teenagers do not do this. Some of his behaviour is innately unkind and spiteful. He may lack parenting (and it does sound as if he gets away with a lot) but he may also be a nasty piece of work. When you get together with someone who has a child you sign up for treating that child well and being pleasant and kid to them, not for being walked all over and treated like dirt - that's not something you should have to put up with.

OoohRhubarbLetsGo · 06/11/2019 13:43

This is typical teenage behaviour, it’s deliberately disrespectful. His father needs to step up and do some actual parenting. You shouldn’t have to leave your own house.

I hope you’ve reported the criminal damage and CCTV footage to the police.

Your stepson needs to start facing up to consequences (including financial) for his behaviour, but you and your partner need to work together here.

ThinkingIsAllowed · 06/11/2019 13:44

this is not typical teenage behaviour, it shocks me that some people think it is (maybe they didn't read the full post?).

HigherFurtherFasterBaby · 06/11/2019 13:44

What does his Dad say about this?

Mine would have gone nuclear at just ONE of those big expensive incidents, let alone multiple, and he’s the most chill parent in the world.

I regular broke and still do break plates mugs etc as I’m dyspraxic so my Dad bought cheap ones from Ikea in bulk Blush

My Step Mum is also wonderful but she would also have ripped me a new one if I did something to fuck up her work day.

I did have serious MH issues as a teen but Christ I had way more respect for my Dad and Step Mum than to behave like this.

TARSCOUT · 06/11/2019 13:45

Read bits and pieces and gave up sounds like obnoxious teenager! Pretty sure you would be moaning if he left the jigsaw on table too and didn't use the jigsaw mat and didn't roll it up behind him knowing you need to use table etc car is different matter but apart from that he's a horrible teenager who isn't allowed to use the good plated. Think you should move out and live a perfect life elsewhere.

saraclara · 06/11/2019 13:48

@antisupermum, I think you need to read the other 40% if you think this is typical teenager stuff (I did initially - then I read further)

Sotoes · 06/11/2019 13:48

The most astonishing thing about your OP, is that you say he's a nice lad. He's not, he's taking the piss ON PURPOSE.

Stop being afraid of standing up to him, he thinks you're a pushover. He's correct. You are letting him push you out of your own home for goodness sake!

KatharinaRosalie · 06/11/2019 13:50

Op, you write he's actually a nice lad. I don't really see it. The things he does, they are at very least massively uncaring and disrespectful, but many sound outright malicious.

if he's just really clumsy and a bit thoughtless, but otherwise nice, explain to him how this all makes you feel. If he does not change anything, he's not a nice lad.

CoraPirbright · 06/11/2019 13:52

Can you expand a little on why this little scrote isnt living with his mother? Any chance he can be moved back to hers?

worriedmumtoteen · 06/11/2019 13:52

What does he say when you confront him about all these things? What did he say about keying the car? About smashing the plates?

Does he have any special needs? Because honestly he's nothing like any teen I've ever met. He sounds like he actually hates you and wants to make you upset - ie the jigsaw thing.

You and dh neeed to be a lot stricter with him. There have to be proper sanctions for everything he breaks: he has to repay you. He should do chores. Or he is grounded, phone taken away, etc. You need to get his mum on board too. He needs to realise (though why the fuck doesn't he already?) that his behaviour is awful, completely unacceptable.

Or yes, I'd be telling him to leave, not leaving myself.

I'd also contact the police with the CCTV footage of them keying your car. Little shits.

Waspnest · 06/11/2019 13:52

but I can't live like this, wondering what's going to get wrecked next

I think you've answered your own question here really. And just seen you're not married which is good.

Crazybunnylady123 · 06/11/2019 13:53

Wow! I would never of disrespected my parents like that. I mean yeh I left plates in my room and clothes on the floor. But I’d never let a car get damaged or the sofa, I wouldn’t of sold food or drink from home. I mean I may of eaten it I guess, but not if I was for my sick dad. This isn’t normal behaviour and your step son sounds horrible. Poor you. You should definitely move out. Sorry! FlowersCake

DontBiteTheBoobThatFeedsYou · 06/11/2019 13:55

I think a lot of teens would do this if they could get away with it.

That's the problem. He's always got away with it, he has absolutely fuck all respect for you or his Dad.

I would have crisis talks with DP and establish a future in which you no longer have to endure this but your relationship doesn't suffer.

Just reiterate to DP how much you love him but what an impact DSS is having and it's not on anymore.

managedmis · 06/11/2019 13:55

How are you still there?!

Tbh this says more about your partner than the kid

He doesn't give a shit about you

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 06/11/2019 13:56

This sounds way beyond normal teenage behaviour to me, it also sounds cruel and targetted.
A certain amount of clumseyness or thoughtlessness, ok.. but the extent of the repeated occurances and most of all laughing whilst his friend keys your car!! Absolutely not. And you have evidence so none of them can lie. I would be sending the film and an invoice to the boy's parents and following it up.
Spilling coke all over your sofa and covering it up so that no one can mop up the damage in time/ throwing his controller through the actual window/smashing plates and leaving them in pieces on the floor. Stubbing cigs out on the newly decorated BEDROOM WALL??? Sorry all of these are absolutely deliberate. He is old enough to understand how much how upsetting it is when someone is wantonly damaging your things.

This boy knows you are at home and whether it is thought out or not he is treating you like a servant/valet/chauffeur. He is a bully as the deliberate keying of your car reveals.. why else would the friend have done this, if not at his instigation or if he hadn't been led to believe that the DSS would approve?
You have laid out the situation very clearly. Perhpas his Dad should sit him down and present him with a non emotive and edited version of this list of all the inconsiderate and damaging things he's doing which are causing a problem and an estimated cost of the total damage and make him read it and ask him what the F he thinks he's doing?
I do hope you find some sort of resolution soon xx

glitterfarts · 06/11/2019 13:58
  1. Get a double adapter for your bedroom and move your phone charger in there.
  2. Get the CCTV footage and report to police. Little shits parents can pay for the damage.
  3. Sell the Xbox to pay for other damage he's on purpose caused.
  4. Do not drive him when late. Let his consequences be his not yours.
  5. Ban him unless Dad home due to his temper.
  6. Talk to your partner and tell him your considering moving out til step son has left home.
  7. Step son needs to be 50/50 at other parents house.
  8. You have the patience of a saint. I dislike your DSS after reading this, let alone living with it.
Aridane · 06/11/2019 13:59

He sounds like a typical teenager who isnt being parented. His mum clearly doesnt bother, his Dad is barely there and your role is undefined

You and your partner need to clarify rules boundaries and consequences and enforce them

This!

antisupermum · 06/11/2019 13:59

@saraclara I have surmised from the follow up posts that some of it rather severe, but I still think this is a parenting fail as opposed to him being a bad kid. Sounds to me like his mum has shrugged him off on the dad, the dad is never there and the OP has an undefined role and certainly no rights or responsibilities to discipline or guide him.

I stand by the idea that this is a DH problem, which is in turn creating a DSS problem. DSS is crying out for attention. And because no bugger is giving him any positive energy, he will get the attention he craves by misbehaving. Its bog standard "bad teenager" behaviour.

HollowTalk · 06/11/2019 13:59

It might be typical of some teenagers but certainly not all! I couldn't live with someone who was so disrespectful and who damaged all my property. I'd be in tears the whole time.

PrettyPurse · 06/11/2019 13:59

@AngelKate22 what did he say about the car when you confronted him?

Aridane · 06/11/2019 13:59

Keying the car - see if police will give him / his egging-on friends a talking to

Waiting4Sprogo · 06/11/2019 14:00

Oh OP, how utterly exhausting for you. I absolutely agree with @Jollitwiglet Your DSS does not have any respect for you, his dad, his home or himself and he needs to learn this fast. Everything he breaks, he replaces. If he wears his shoes and wrecks your carpet, you confiscate his shoes and make him get on his sodding knees and clean the carpet. Missed the bus? Gets to school late - harsh lesson but a fair one, a life lesson. No one is going to hand out ‘life freebies’ when he’s a man and you aren’t preparing him for adulthood by constantly letting him off. I’d report the car with the video to the police and make your stepson pay for the damage - he’ll think twice before being an accessory to his arsehole mates’ schemes again. It sounds like he’s taking the piss because you’re allowing him to. I know that’s f*** up and unfair because you’re just trying to be nice but actually he sees your niceness as a weakness. He sees it as a ‘I just can’t be arsed to parent you’ and so he’s punishing you for not punishing him. All children need boundaries. He’ll learn so much more when he has to make amends for the things he does wrong. Definitely remove the computer/games station and change the WiFi passcode. I saw an amusing post on fb once, where the parents had listed the chores their kids had to complete each day (approx 4) before getting the WiFi code. Out of curiosity, why does he live with his Dad and not with his mum? I’m all for the system being fairer and recognising that Dads love their children too but it’s unusual for a child to be placed with Dad over Mum. This could be an indicator into your DSS emotional mindset. There are likely attachment needs that aren’t or haven’t been met by his mum.
Don’t punish your DP by leaving but do work together to present a united front. Have you considered family counselling?

billy1966 · 06/11/2019 14:01

Absolutely appalling behaviour.

Can't imagine how anyone would put up with a tenth of it.

He wouldn't be living in a house that I was paying part of a mortgage on.

He would be gone.

OP, you are being taken for an absolute mug.

Personally, I would tell my partner he's no longer welcome in the house.

You own part of it and he's costing you money.

He would be absolutely gone.

I can't imagine the stress of having such a thug living with you must be like.

Also, how about treating his things in a similar manner. Accidentally pouring a can over his gaming machine and not bothering to tell him.

Brat.

ChuckleBuckles · 06/11/2019 14:02

I think your DP found a convenient cook, cleaner, housekeeper, childminder and general dogsbody when he got you to move in

This with bells on, also OP the son is not a nice lad, while mistakes can happens and teenagers are not always the most caring of people, all those incidents added together are aimed at you, at upsetting you or wrecking the things that you take joy in, that you have worked for, the house and car being damaged, how many hours work or meetings did you have to sit through to earn to pay for those things?

The more you try to be nice, understanding or caring to this young man the more he will laugh at you and wreck your stuff, you have seen the CCTV of him laughing at your car being keyed by his friends, how much more do you need to see. Both father and son are making a mug of you, pack up your stuff, get whatever finances you have in the house and go and live a peaceful life somewhere without these two.

Jeremybearimybaby · 06/11/2019 14:02

This child needs a parent. One with extremely strict boundaries.
No, this isn't typical behaviour, and if one of mine was behaving this way, there would be consequences.
I'd leave too Flowers