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To be dreading the morning after the election?

207 replies

ohhhhlivia · 31/10/2019 20:30

When they announce a Tory majority with Johnson at the helm?

Then it's all down hill. Every time I've know a Tory government get it, living standards have dropped where I live. Every time.

Have a genuine feeling of foreboding.

Anyone else?

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yoursworried · 03/11/2019 08:33

@MarieG10 no idea but if you don't fancy googling yourself you can read the details here

www.gov.uk/voting-in-the-uk

ForalltheSaints · 03/11/2019 08:36

Sadly I am expecting that the worst Prime Minister of all time and someone who has no respect for women will still be in number 10. My main hope is that he loses his seat in Uxbridge and South Ruislip. The worst leader of the opposition ever and someone who fails to act on anti-semitism is sad also.

So anything else will be a pleasant surprise.

blahblahblahblahhh · 03/11/2019 08:43

My bday is 12th - bastards ruining my day!

bellinisurge · 03/11/2019 09:29

@blahblahblahblahhh , I'll raise a glass to you on the day.

GPatz · 03/11/2019 09:43

Yeah. I'm pretty much dreading the crowing and shrieks of 'we have won, get over it snowflakes/buttercups/moaners'. I think this rift will never heal.

The80sweregreat · 03/11/2019 11:22

Nigel Farage was putting the boot in today on tv! He isn't Boris's mate anymore it seems!

Aroundnabout1 · 03/11/2019 13:44

As long as the majority of the press are tory, the torys will keep getting in because a lot of people believe what they are told by the press.

avocadotofu · 03/11/2019 13:50

I feel exactly the same way. It's so depressing!!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/11/2019 14:27

But why should there be crowing and shrieks, GPatz? From all we're seeing, it's not even as if a Tory win would be much of a surprise

Granted there's always the occasional unpleasant tosser, but IME it's pretty easy to just ignore them

HeyMissyYouSoFine · 03/11/2019 14:34

I was expecting a hung parliament - maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.

DowntownAbby · 03/11/2019 15:09

@MarieG10

You want know the date that proxy voting became legal in the U.K.?

Why does the date matter?

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The80sweregreat · 03/11/2019 15:17

Might be a hung parliament with Boris then trying to get the Brexit party on side.
Nigel isnt keen on Boris's plans for the withdrawal agreement. Will they still go into partnership ? Would the lib dems team up with labour? They are not usually ones to side with the left. Nicola doesn't seem keen on Jeremy..
will be interesting to see what happens. I think it'll just make matters worse and Brexit will still be a sticking point.

Livelovebehappy · 03/11/2019 15:46

Labour won’t team up with the Lib Dem’s. Jo Swinson has made clear that she will overturn Brexit if she gets into number 10, but Corbyns core supporters are mostly Brexit so I doubt they can come close to agreeing policies they have in common. Likewise Labour will not partner up with the SNP as Sturgeon has made it clear in the media this week that she has little respect for Corbyn.

StariaP · 03/11/2019 15:49

Don’t give up hope, keep plugging away. We may be able to get the bloody tories out yet - www.thetimes.co.uk/article/general-election-poll-double-trouble-for-boris-johnson-after-bounce-in-corbyn-support-and-remain-electoral-pact-0nbttwvwd

SilverySurfer · 03/11/2019 17:27

The super rich may stay in the UK but their money won't. Corbyn can dream on if he thinks he will get his greedy mitts on it.

At one point the highest rate of tax in the UK was 90% for the highest earners and very little tax was paid by the rich, most of it was stashed away overseas. Since the top 1% of earners currently pay approx 30% of the tax burden, Corbyn will have a financial black hole which will curtail his spending spree somewhat.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/11/2019 17:36

You're bringing common sense into it again, SilverySurfer ... never a good idea when it comes to the politics of envy Wink

cannycat20 · 03/11/2019 17:55

Ah yes, the polls. Because it's not like any of them carefully target those who get, say, the Express, or the Daily Mail, or the Times, or the Sun delivered or anything, or who only ever watch/listen to the BBC. Or, conversely, those who read the Mirror or New Statesman....the question is, if you don't vote against the Tories, what, in effect, are you voting FOR?

Those saying "we survived" after the last lot of endless Tory rampages in the North (and the West Country, and Wales, and Scotland, and South Yorkshire, and Northern Ireland, just as examples) might find a trip to some of those places quite enlightening. Which, as a previous poster points out, have never recovered. The "Vote for Brexit" vote, for some, was a "vote against the Tory government" vote. Unfortunately it didn't quite work out how they expected. Some people may have "survived". The world was very different then, however. Information technology and the environment are just two aspects that have changed beyond recognition in my lifetime. And as for health, one of the consequences of better vaccinations, better diets and better sanitation is that people live longer. And we are only just beginning to learn what that looks like, healthwise. When I was growing up, cancer, or a stroke was pretty much an instant death sentence, while those with dementia did not, in general, linger on for ten years or more until pneumonia (for instance) finally carried them off.

I just know I cannot bring myself to deliberately vote for more homelessness, poverty, sexism, elitism, racism, alongside the consistent downgrading of local infrastructure outside London and a handful of other big important cities, reduced investment in education, an NHS being sold to the USA, and life in the 51st state. I'm sure all of those things will happen anyway, but in 15 years' time when the next generation are asking me what I did to try and stop it, I don't want my answer to be, "Nothing, I voted Tory".

Lepetitpiggy · 03/11/2019 17:57

Why isn't anyone mentioning the odious simpering Swinson? My staunchly Labour city, with a brilliant MP is likely to lose to an utter cunt Lib Dem, which would be awful.

Gin96 · 03/11/2019 18:08

I really can’t see who will run the country on the 13th December, At a guess it will be a hung parliament.

SilverySurfer · 03/11/2019 19:01

Puzzledandpissedoff
You're bringing common sense into it again, SilverySurfer ... never a good idea when it comes to the politics of envy wink

I know but hitting my head against a brick wall is one of my favourite hobbies Grin

The80sweregreat · 03/11/2019 19:16

I did mention the Lib Dem's earlier on but they seem to be running on a single policy.
I've not heard much more from them on tv but Parliament isn't dissolved yet so I might do later on as it all heats up.

Ginnymweasley · 03/11/2019 19:53

I am dreading it to tbh. The idea of what boris et al could do to this country scares me. My dd has a nut allergy and my biggest fear is them fucking up the nhs to the point we can't get her medication and treatment etc. I met my labour candidate today, she seems nice but we currently have no candidate for the conservatives so I have no idea who she is up against.

Patroclus · 03/11/2019 19:59

Ive also stopped caring in a way you see omebody you once loved drinking themelves to death or getting sucked into an obvious scam. They dont just insult you when you try to point out the obvious problems, they try to claim aliens sent you.

Time to get the labour party electable, by hurling out the naive socialist worker newcomers if it has to come to that.

Tanith · 04/11/2019 07:54

"Politics of Envy"??

You have the nerve to talk about Politics of Envy when desperate people are quite literally starving, food bank numbers are a national disgrace, disabled people have had benefits removed that enabled them to work and live??

Politics of Envy?? No - it's the politics of FAIRNESS that questions how multimillionaires can exist just a mile or two away from people who rely on the charity and compassion of others to live. How corporations like Amazon can enjoy huge tax rebates while benefit claimants are treated as undeserving scroungers.

It's the politics of greed from those people who think it's perfectly OK to keep their millions, often made on the backs of zero hours, minimum wage workers, while the rest of the country struggles.

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