To be dreading the morning after the election?

[ohhhhlivia]

When they announce a Tory majority with Johnson at the helm?

Then it's all down hill. Every time I've know a Tory government get it, living standards have dropped where I live. Every time.

Have a genuine feeling of foreboding.

Anyone else?

That's a question for the politicians and economists- I am neither.

However, austerity must stop. It's killing people. I know that sounds like emotional blackmail but it's actually true. The most basic indicator of serious economic and social deprivation (infant mortality) is flashing. In 2019. In the UK.

Yet people see arguing about a few quid on their tax bill?

I find that hard to stomach. Very hard.

We either have a civilised society where the vulnerable are cared for, or we don't.

We are heading for the latter. Puts all the other shit, Brexit, trans stuff, XR etc into perspective.

"Corbyn talked to terrorists as part of Labour moves towards peace and the GFA. He won a peace award for it."
No he fucking didn't. He posed with some twats to look cool. He had fuck all to do with GFA. That was Mo Mowlem who, conveniently for people peddling this bollocks, is a dead woman.
As for an award, was it some self congratulation shit because it wasn't the fucking Nobel Prize. That went to John Hume and David Trimble if memory serves.

i feel the same dread, op.

that we could give our country to a small group of right-wing elite brexiteering billionaire etonians and say 'here feck us over some more- we like what youve done' is quite ...upsetting.

Selling off council housing stock made a lot of very ordinary people in ordinary jobs very rich. It's the one policy that the Tories had vision over ; get people to be home owners , get them on board with the ' free market economy and unions as bad' and let them think they are part of the ' elite' , albeit on the outer fringes!! If those policies had been scuppered things may well look a bit different politically.
So many people I know now have Tory opinions and attitudes due to what happened years ago! Very few folk want to be seen as ' working class' when that is what they are. Including many of my own family are wealthy because they bought bricks and mortar at the right times!

Yes the tories will get in again, people will suffer more and they will still continue to blame labour.

Same. I'm absolutely dreading it, I don't understand at all why people seem to think Boris is better than anything else on offer. It's very confusing and upsetting.

Not to mention the timing of this bloody election means it's unlikely that postal votes from abroad will even manage to get there in time (if they even get to US in time which is debatable given what happened the last time), so the overseas vote is essentially crippled.

It’s sickening. I don’t recognise this country anymore.

Don’t worry students will be able to vote twice again

I don't know how the Tories manage to persuade the majority of their voters to vote against their own best interests and for the best interests of billionaires. Could do with the fact billionaire Tory donors own the press.

I wonder who Putin will support? I think Brexit party.

And what is the nonsense about 'don't want socialism'?

Do they mean they don't want the NHS or welfare services?

I saw this posted today "If in doubt, Tories out". It's that simple - vote for whoever has the best chance of getting them out. Put aside the hatchet job the media have done on Corbyn. Our NHS, police and Education system are all in ruins. Don't vote for more of that. It's that simple. They have ruined the lives of ordinary people and the poverty I see in my line of work is an absolute disgrace and a direct result of their policies. Yet the richest are getting richer and inequality is its biggest since Victorian times. It's shameful.

turkeys voting for Christmas

FFS can we get a new cliche?

@Hingeandbracket

No.

Aw don't stop using that cliche - for the past couple of years every time I see it trotted out again on a MN thread I put a tenner in a pot.
Got a nice tidy sum saved!

Good for you BMW6 You never know when you might need it.

I'm worried that Labour will get in. That is a far more scary thought for me. And no I am not rich, far from it!

I cannot understand why people wouldn't want a socialist government instead of one motivated entirely by greed and self-interest. If we value the NHS we cannot enable the Tories to be in charge for another 5 years.

But why are you worried Elefant? No PM in the history of this country has been as vile as the current incumbent. He and his cronies are truly odious and they don't give a shit about anything but lining their own pockets.

Because socialist governments tend to start with theft and end with bankruptcy? Just a thought.

I don’t support Jeremy Corbyn, but I’m not at all scared of Labour getting in. Most Labour MPs are pretty moderate, therefore the policies that would get through parliament would be moderate.

However, I do like Corbyn’s pledge to renationalise the railways. I’m sick of paying ever-increasing prices for a fourth-class service (no seat at all).

Well that's piss for a start @CendrillonSings. But you vote the way you want, and sod the poor, the disabled, the sick. I'm voting SNP because I don't want to be part of this madness..

We’ll have turkeys voting for Christmas

I can't believe people are still spouting this and pretending they have a grasp of modern day politics or even any form of critical thinking.

It will be a massive relief for us. Knowing that my husband will be able to keep his business (our livelihood and a source of employment for a few people), my children will be able to stay in their school undisturbed, we won’t fave the possibility of being forced abroad. I appreciate that boris is quite shit but the alternative is unthinkable and would be terrible for us.

Am I the ONLY person who's expecting a hung Parliament on 13/12/19?

@PhilCornwall1 The more that is taken off you, the greater the impact on your own family on being able to live
Since the increased percentage would only apply to whatever you earn over £80k, I think your family will be able to live fine. I’ve never earned anywhere near that and have managed to cling to life somehow (as a single parent, so no second salary).